where does the list or the OP imply that it's supposed to be a good representation of the market?
i don't know, you should ask him.
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Amazon Top 10 games 2018 Thus far-End of the year.
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Why would you assume the a single retailer is representative of the total market?
It's likely because most Nintendo fans buy physical still. The actual top sales on amazon belong to PlayStation and Xbox gift cards, which are likely used to buy digital.
Spider man sales are pushing 5 million after a month. It's going to hit 10
Smash 4 combined sales was 13 million on a combined install base of around 85 million, which included people who double dipped. Roughly 15% attach rate
Switch has about 22 million units sold. Even if Switch sells another 20 million units, and attach rate goes up to 20%, thats still only 8.4 million units. If Smash beats Spider Man PS4 it will only be because both the game and the Switch itself have really really really strong legs and it will happen 5 years down the road when they're selling Spider Man 3 on PS5. It's not happening this fiscal year.
So you agree with that person then that Smash is going to sell better? Because it will obviously have (very) strong legs and has every chance of becoming the highest selling in the series.
I'd say maybe 2 1/2 years tops before it hits 15 million
yeah atm there's loads of fallout 76 stuff which isn't too strange as it was the same when fallout 4 was releasing. before that was RDR2, black ops 4 and spider-man. haven't seen any assassin's creed stuff surprisingly but yeah nothing nintendo where i live which is weird as i live in greater london, you'd expect some more marketing in the capital right?
in no possible scenario will spiderman have a higher LTD than smash ultimate, once they're both done selling.
I mean, it seems like a pretty arbitrary decision to include the list when we have a more accurate one from NPD:
Top 10 Selling Video Games (Retail and Digital), YTD Ending September 2018
Rank Rank Last Month Title Publisher
1 1 Far Cry 5 Ubisoft
2 2 God of War 2018 Sony (Corp)
3 NEW Marvel's Spider-Man Sony (Corp)
4 3 Monster Hunter: World Capcom USA
5 NEW NBA 2K19 Take 2 Interactive (Corp)
6 4 Madden NFL 19^ Electronic Arts
7 5 Grand Theft Auto V Take 2 Interactive (Corp)
8 6 Call of Duty: WWII^ Activision Blizzard (Corp)
9 7 Dragon Ball: Fighterz Bandai Namco Games (Corp)
10 8 Mario Kart 8* Nintendo
i don't know his intention, but seems to me like he wanted to make a thread about a specific list from a specific retailer. it does provide some interesting info as well (i found it interesting at least). i don't understand why people are mad at a list or think because it doesn't represent the whole market it shouldn't be thread-worthy, but whatever.
it says in the thread title what it is, there's no click baiting or misinformation being spread. if the title was "BEST SELLING GAMES OF 2018" and then you opened it and it was amazon's list, you'd have a point.
Ok, I have to give OP more credit for not treating us like we are stupid for just giving us the answers then asking us what our answers are.
Waiting for a game to arrive end of day or 1-2 days late isn't convenient to me. I guess for other stuff it doesn't matter but Amazon fucks up so hard on deliveries these days. I'd rather just buy online and swing to pick up at Best Buy.
Spider man sales are pushing 5 million after a month. It's going to hit 10
Smash 4 combined sales was 13 million on a combined install base of around 85 million, which included people who double dipped. Roughly 15% attach rate
Switch has about 22 million units sold. Even if Switch sells another 20 million units, and attach rate goes up to 20%, thats still only 8.4 million units. If Smash beats Spider Man PS4 it will only be because both the game and the Switch itself have really really really strong legs and it will happen 5 years down the road when they're selling Spider Man 3 on PS5. It's not happening this fiscal year.
Oh my god. This is literally the same awful logic Polygon used when making those Mario Kart sales charts. Please tell me you're doing that on purpose.
Did you just exclude all the PSN and Xbox Live cards? PSN cards still count as games since that means most people are using Amazon to buy PSN\XL cards buy digital games. The first 3 spots are PSN cards then a protective screen case for the Switch, then Smash. I get how you're separating them with strictly "games" listed on the chart but that's not an accurate way to do this at all. All this really proves is that NS owners seem to go for physical on Amazon over digital for releases while PS\XL do the opposite and prefer digital over physical, hence why the top 3 spots are entirely PSN cards.
Correct.
Not too long ago you couldn't pre-order or buy any Sony games for the longest time. Those times where when almost the entire top #10 were just PSN cards because most people were forced to buy Spider-Man and GoW that way, among others.
PSN and XBL cards aren't games though. There is no way to know which games people used them for.
And? You use them to buy digital games. Doesn't matter if they're not games or not. They are still top in the list because people are using them to buy digital games. I get how he's separating them by games but this is not the way to do it and not accurate whatsoever. You can't just exclude them even if you're strictly talking about games, because that doesn't represent anything accurate of the actual list at all.
The NPD sales someone mentioned here gives the more accurate one
Well if I were making a list of best selling games, The playstation store or eshop can't be on that list because they literally have thousands of games. I'm sure for example, every other game purchased on the eshop combined would beat Super Smash Brothers Ultimate by itself. It's a comparison that makes little sense here.
And yes, we all know NPD is more accurate.
Spider man sales are pushing 5 million after a month. It's going to hit 10
Smash 4 combined sales was 13 million on a combined install base of around 85 million, which included people who double dipped. Roughly 15% attach rate
Switch has about 22 million units sold. Even if Switch sells another 20 million units, and attach rate goes up to 20%, thats still only 8.4 million units. If Smash beats Spider Man PS4 it will only be because both the game and the Switch itself have really really really strong legs and it will happen 5 years down the road when they're selling Spider Man 3 on PS5. It's not happening this fiscal year.
Smash can absolutely sell 10m units by the end of the FY. Software on Switch has been incredible so far, and the big 4 (Odyssey, Kart, BotW and Splatoon) have insane attach rates. Smash is their big holiday title. Odyssey is around 12m at the moment and, if you look at sales data, Smash has historically outsold 3D Mario games.
Ultimate has been one of the most heavily marketed games in Nintendo's past decade, social media buzz is insane, pre-order numbers seem to be quite high.
I predict Smash reaching 20m lifetime sales. 10m is an absolute certainty.
Hoo boy is this a future crow post waiting to happen. Smash is expected to ship 10 million day one.
Spider man sales are pushing 5 million after a month. It's going to hit 10
Smash 4 combined sales was 13 million on a combined install base of around 85 million, which included people who double dipped. Roughly 15% attach rate
Switch has about 22 million units sold. Even if Switch sells another 20 million units, and attach rate goes up to 20%, thats still only 8.4 million units. If Smash beats Spider Man PS4 it will only be because both the game and the Switch itself have really really really strong legs and it will happen 5 years down the road when they're selling Spider Man 3 on PS5. It's not happening this fiscal year.
2/5 is Historically now? It probably would be 1/5 if Mario Galaxy didn't get a sequel.
My bad about it, should have said they sell similar numbers.
My point still stands though.
Whoa, I did not expect Smash to be that high. Looking at the overall list, it looks like Nintendo has a strong presence on Amazon. I don't understand why something like RDR2 is so comparatively low.
Also, this thread made me realize that Switch Pro Controllers are currently $60. I recommend the controller to anyone who has only been using Joy-Con and has thought about buying the controller. I use it exclusively and really like it.
Also, this thread made me realize that Switch Pro Controllers are currently $60. I recommend the controller to anyone who has only been using Joy-Con and has thought about buying the controller. I use it exclusively and really like it.
Spider man sales are pushing 5 million after a month. It's going to hit 10
Smash 4 combined sales was 13 million on a combined install base of around 85 million, which included people who double dipped. Roughly 15% attach rate
Switch has about 22 million units sold. Even if Switch sells another 20 million units, and attach rate goes up to 20%, thats still only 8.4 million units. If Smash beats Spider Man PS4 it will only be because both the game and the Switch itself have really really really strong legs and it will happen 5 years down the road when they're selling Spider Man 3 on PS5. It's not happening this fiscal year.
Didn't you see Odyssey sales last year ? Like 2 million in 3 days ! This was last year on a very small Installed base.
You're underestimating Smash and Switch owners. I won't be surprised Smash sell 5 million copies... IN A WEEK ! Wait and See...
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It was just very interesting to me that one of the biggest stores in the world had Smash as best selling game even if it is not out yet.
Just a simple game, nothing serious :)
Well, we could argue that is just people buying cards to get loopboxes on fortnite, destiny or COD. Unfortunately there is no way to anyone to know.
Yep.
It's fun to compare!
Amazon.de (Germany) Bestselling Games* of 2018 (so far):
1. Fifa 19 (Standard Edition) - PS4
2. Red Dead Redemption 2 - PS4
3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - NSW
4. Super Mario Odyssey - NSW
5. Monster Hunter World - PS4
6. Fifa 19 (Champions Edition) - PS4
7. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - NSW
8. Far Cry 5 (Standard Edition) - PS4
9. Grand Theft Auto V - PS4
10. Farming Simulator 19 (Day One Edition) - PC
It's amusing how the number 10, a game that isn't even out yet, confirms the stereotype.
*Gamecards, Consoles, Controller and accessories are not included
Amazon.de (Germany) Bestselling Games* of 2018 (so far):
1. Fifa 19 (Standard Edition) - PS4
2. Red Dead Redemption 2 - PS4
3. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - NSW
4. Super Mario Odyssey - NSW
5. Monster Hunter World - PS4
6. Fifa 19 (Champions Edition) - PS4
7. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - NSW
8. Far Cry 5 (Standard Edition) - PS4
9. Grand Theft Auto V - PS4
10. Farming Simulator 19 (Day One Edition) - PC
It's amusing how the number 10, a game that isn't even out yet, confirms the stereotype.
*Gamecards, Consoles, Controller and accessories are not included
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yeah how dare you exclude psn cards from a best selling GAME list
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Mario Odyssey almost hit 10 million after 2 months it was released. At a time when Switch had a much smaller install base. And 3D Mario sells less than Smash almost every time.
Spider man sales are pushing 5 million after a month. It's going to hit 10
Smash 4 combined sales was 13 million on a combined install base of around 85 million, which included people who double dipped. Roughly 15% attach rate
Switch has about 22 million units sold. Even if Switch sells another 20 million units, and attach rate goes up to 20%, thats still only 8.4 million units. If Smash beats Spider Man PS4 it will only be because both the game and the Switch itself have really really really strong legs and it will happen 5 years down the road when they're selling Spider Man 3 on PS5. It's not happening this fiscal year.
I really don't get how you find it so preposterous that Smash would outsell Spider-Man. Nintendo's core offerings have easily done better on Switch than they have in the past, and Brawl sold 14 million on Wii. It's going to pass that at LEAST.
yeah that post has to be a troll. not only will ultimate easily surpass spiderman, it'll do it while selling almost all copies at full price and thus make way more money as well. spiderman's price will soon drop and in a year or two they'll sell it for 30 or 20$.
Ah, my bad I thought Smash Wii U outsold 3D World. Anyways, Brawl outsold Galaxy Melee outsold Sunshine and those are better comparisons imo, considering Smash 4's odd situation of being split between platforms. 3D World and Smash U are super close anyway, and the 3DS version was basically Nintendo saying "hey, we know you don't wanna buy a Wii U so we'll help you with that"
But Galaxy's sales weren't as prolonged as it got a sequel. It kinda screws it compared to Brawl.
Ehh I don't really know how much that would impact it. First, 3D Marios aren't really leggy anyway so over 90% of Galaxy's sales were probably in by Galaxy 2. Second, single player games aren't really the type of games who's legs get cut off if a sequel comes anyway.
I don't really trust Amazons best seller list. At least in Canada it's sketchy as hell, I remember the Canadian one had the Ouya in the top 5 best selling items for like two years after it released.
Why do so many more people buy Nintendo games on Amazon than Playstation and Xbox games?
Is there a reason?
Is there a reason?
Much cheaper with promo codes and lightning sales maybe. I got all of my switch games from amazon, usually $20-40 cheaper than retail here in Aus.
I always thought it showed that lots people don't want to put their credit card information on PSN.
Security issues in the past mainly. I had a hard time imagining why you'd use your credit card on Amazon to get currency you then had to input into your system, when you could purchase things directly from the network using the exact same card. It seemed like adding a few extra steps for no reason.
There was also a thread not too long ago here where someone couldn't purchase PSN cards for some reason and said they "felt dirty" having to enter their information on PSN.
It might be that Amazon.com accepts other forms of payment that PSN doesn't. I've only shopped on the US site a few times before.
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That's always been that case, that's why it's usually dismissed on sales thread.
Yeah, absolutely. A top 10 without Far Cry 5 , GTA 5, Monster Hunter World, Madden NFL 19, NBA 2K19, Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Call of Duty Black Ops 4 isn't credible at all.
I don't know what is the explanation for this chart, but it's not only the lack of digital or the fact that Amazon count each SKU separately. Even if you just take the physical sales of the standard PlayStation 4 edition of Black Ops 4, you're probably upper than every Nintendo game.
He's talking about worldwide sales since his Odyssey number was just that. Smash Brothers can hit those numbers worldwide.
rdr2 sold 17 million at launch, not 5. smash will easily do 5.
oh i had forgotten about the hack. didn't know anyone would still be concerned about that.
that's exactly what i did. 100% digital on PS4. 100% physical on Switch.
I'm talking about worldwide as well. No game is coming close to what RDR2 is selling, not even Smash. RDR2 is on a different level. Smash will eventually get there as an evergreen title but it's not shipping almost 20 mil its first week.
lol, you brought up rdr2 and the 20 million number and now you're arguing with yourself? no one said smash will do 20 million in a week.
???? Who said that ?
I said 5 million in a week ! Not 17 millions -_-.
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