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Mandikiri

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That was a shit interview and Reggie derserved better then that crap.

Sakurai is clearly working his ass off on the next installment of Smash and this guy is using his platform/voice to push his dumbass narrative that the next installment isn't a new game. I hate sites like Kotaku.

I shouldn't have clicked on the thread.

You and me both my friend.
 

Telpis

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Jan 17, 2018
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He's it wrong nintendo biggest Christmas games is a ok Pokémon remake with forced Go! Gameplay from the app and a smash bros port.

I'm the problem I'm buying Pokémon on Friday
 

Raijinto

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Hey all. I figured people would enjoy the banter.

I'm well aware of what is new in Smash Ultimate and talk about that in the article. The point was to hear his take on whether Nintendo is at all at a disadvantage this holiday season when putting out games that some may see as enhanced ports, even if they're technically a lot more than that happening with Smash and the Let's Go Pokemon games.

Since Smash isn't some full roster change with all-new stages or some radical revamping of the series, it's not as obviously brand-new to game consumers as, say, Breath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey would be. And as I pointed out in the piece, Nintendo can port a Wii U game with very few changes--Mario Kart 8--and do great numbers with it on Switch. Hence me wanting to see what he'd say.

Next time you meet him can you please ask him if Mother 3 is being released outside of Japan anytime soon? Because I feel like even though I know for certain what he's going to say I'm also 100% certain it'll have been a more worthwhile question to ask than this was.

Mother 3 is great y'all.
 

BGBW

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*Miyamoto comes out on stage* "I'd like to introduce our new game, Ocarina of Time"

"Technically" *Stephen Totilo pushes up his glasses* "it's built on the same engine as Super Mario 64. They just added stuff to it."

Come on sunshine.
 

Atheerios

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I'm surprised Kotaku editors let this level of bad journalism through. Reggie is just taking about their holiday plans. Why you have to turn this into hot takes: the article?
 

legend166

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Why do journalists always try the gotcha questions with the dumbest things?

Like, you could ask about Nintendo's approach to their legacy catalogue and ask if SNES and other platforms will come to Nintendo online, or lambast him for their incredibly stupid approach to voice chat. Or a million other things people actually want answers to. Instead we get this.
 

disparate

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's primarily story and the story is different. The two situations are not alike. Next.



He had to make Ice Climbers so useless because after all these years he couldn't figure out how to just avoid creating an infinite.
You're objectively wrong though, it's the same V/O actors, engine, asset overlap, and gameplay most of the game is identical to the previous so a minor change to the story doesn't make it a new game. Next.
 

Dennis8K

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Oct 25, 2017
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wat...?

I guess it is an iteration on the formula like AC: Odyssey is an iteration in that franchise.....
 

SlimeKnight

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People are still trying to perpetuate that "Smash Ultimate is a port!" nonsense? And the way the interviewer went about it is incredibly disrespectful and makes him sound like a douche. No better and just as cringey as the Diablo Immortal "early April Fool's joke" guy.
 

superNESjoe

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Oct 26, 2017
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This is one of those things that I genuinely expect better of Kotaku and Totilo.
 

Buzzman

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey all. I figured people would enjoy the banter.

I'm well aware of what is new in Smash Ultimate and talk about that in the article. The point was to hear his take on whether Nintendo is at all at a disadvantage this holiday season when putting out games that some may see as enhanced ports, even if they're technically a lot more than that happening with Smash and the Let's Go Pokemon games.

Since Smash isn't some full roster change with all-new stages or some radical revamping of the series, it's not as obviously brand-new to game consumers as, say, Breath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey would be. And as I pointed out in the piece, Nintendo can port a Wii U game with very few changes--Mario Kart 8--and do great numbers with it on Switch. Hence me wanting to see what he'd say.
But what then makes GTA V or RDR 2 viable as "new games"? They run on extremely similar technology, there is definitely nothing revolutionary or radically different in the gameplay compared to their predecessors. They are improved iterations of the previous titles, and I don't think anyone has ever argued that they shouldn't be seen as new games. Same thing with CoD, sports titles (okay you might have a point there), Assassin's Creed etc.
Would you make this same claim of say, Majoras Mask, or Fallout: New Vegas?
 

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Holy shit can anybody read? He doesn't say that Smash Ultimate isn't a new game just a hypothetical to address potential concerns among the general consumer. This is the some of the most misguided outrage I've seen here in a while.
 

Faabulous

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Oct 27, 2017
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Guys, this is a few sentences in the article. The interview was absolutely not about that, and Stephen said that Reggie was right and that there is a lot of new content in smash.

Why y'all making this whole storm
 

mael

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*Miyamoto comes out on stage* "I'd like to introduce our new game, Ocarina of Time"

"Technically" *Stephen Totilo pushes up his glasses* "it's built on the same engine as Super Mario 64. They just added stuff to it."

Come on 64 port on GC.
fixed that for you
 

Cess007

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Oct 27, 2017
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I think a lot of them are forgetting that Stephen Totilo is a person and Reggie is a person and sometimes people like to give others a hard time. Because it's funny.

I mean, Reggie himself chuckled, and the way he answered the question makes me think that he get why Totilo asked that question. I've no love for Reggie and his PR talk, but this shows clearly why he has the position he has.

Some people losing their mind here and getting all defensive is funny tho
 

Vesper

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Holy shit can anybody read? He doesn't say that Smash Ultimate isn't a new game just a hypothetical to address potential concerns among the general consumer. This is the some of the most misguided outrage I've seen here in a while.

From the article "They're not fully brand new games." You reading the same thing or what?
 

KZXcellent

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I will never understand the "It's not a new game crowd." Whether Totilo holds that opinion or not that take has always been dumb.

Smash Ultimate gives us.

12+ new characters not in Smash Wii U, which includes characters that have been absent since Brawl.
Some new stages alongside plenty of classic ones from N64, Melee, Brawl and WiiU and 3DS.
Additional Options like Hazard Toggle, Battlefield Stage Move, and Stage Morph.
An updated and improved Matchmaking system, and Battle Arena Lobby mode for Online.
Revamped Classic Mode with unique routes for EACH character as well Squad Strike and Smashdown modes.
Plenty of balance changes/updates alongside new mechanics like the Directional Air Dodge
A big story mode filled with interesting fights, RPG mechanics and BOSS FIGHTS
Spirits Mode which is a much better version of Trophies
Completely updated UI, visuals and presentation along with a ton of new music.

I don't know what Smash had to do to win the crazies over. I'm they opted for making the "UIltimate" Smash game instead of starting from scratch and giving us less everything.
 

JigglesBunny

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Oct 27, 2017
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It has the same art design as Smash U while Melee and Brawl differed massively, this leads to people wrongfully assuming that it's a glorified port.

See Splatoon 2 for instance.
 

Swiggins

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People spouting that Ultimate is a port need to get a life.

Fuck outta here with that garbage.
 

JusDoIt

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Just out of curiosity, in the realm of fighting games, what IPs do you feel do this? The last one I can think of that fits your criteria is Street Fighter 3 and even that one couldn't be considered a radical revamping of the systems.

With all due respect, in fact with sheer appreciation, this is exactly how I would expect a person who works at SNK to talk about SFIII. haha
 

jschreier

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My god, if some light banter between a journalist and the CEO of Nintendo of America (a tiny chunk of a very entertaining article, I might add) is enough to set some of you off, just wait until you learn about what's happening in the rest of the world. What an embarrassing thread.
 
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There's so much work going into it and so much new stuff it just seems silly to say that. Is Brawl and new game because it adds some new stuff and retains most of the Melee characters?

Also, the work needed to make Let's Go, whilr having source material to reference, easily makes it a new game too
 
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