I wouldn't feel too bad for them. They will be wrecking house next year with both Aladdin and The Lion King dropping.
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Wkd Box Office - 11•9-11•18 - $66M for Grinch. Dragon Tattoo bombs. Venom > Justice League WW.
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Little Italy is only worthy of a 3001st post. Equal to the number of people who have seen the film.
Reviews have been stellar and hopefully it hits a chuck of the same base that liked Gone Girl. There hasn't been a solid thriller in a while for the older folks... like me
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I am mostly on board for Steve McQueen and the cast. But you are right.
And well made thrillers tend to do pretty well. I don't know about Gone Girl levels of cash, but I think that it has a good shot at being quite profitable for its $40M budget.
Whatever that impact looked like is impossible to say, likewise if it would have been enough. Suicide Squad could have been a breakout hit or it could have done the sub 100m average of other DCEU features; add to that: Venom still has to finish its run.
Venom doing anything better than a 1.9 OWx (likely?) means that Wonder Woman is a lock to be passed as well.
Due to the opening/WOM we can't say where Venom will end up for certain, only speculate until an actual trajectory is observed. There is a projection that Venom generates roughly 200m, (with the bad exchange rate) but we'll see what actually happens.
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record breaking blockbusters with Avengers, Black Panther and Incredibles
record breaking bombas with nutcracker, wrinkle in time and solo
perfectly balanced as all things should be
You know Snyder left the movie because his daughter killed herself, right?
They creatives behind Dragon Tattoo wanted to do more, it wasn't a money thing on their part so much as it just didn't make very much money for Sony.
Someone should make a thread predicting which Disney movie will flop next year. It's confirmed to be a regular occurrence at this point.
Artemis Fowl seems like the obvious pick unless the budget for it is low
Good news for DC. Tencent will aid in the local distribution of Aquaman in the Chinese market.
There is a bad exchange rate at play holding Venom back when translating ¥ to USD.
CBMs total runs in China (¥)
Spiderman Homecoming - 774 million
Doctor Strange - 750 million
Thor Ragnarok - 743 million
Logan - 730 million
Justice League - 690 million
Black Panther - 662 million
Ant Man 2 - 831 million
Wonder Woman - 609 million
X-men Apocalypse - 800 million
Venom 3 day
Friday 223.1 million
Saturday 302.7 million
Sunday 223.5M million
Total: 749.3 million
Édit: in China Venoms Monday drop will be about 59.9% (89.5M). AMATWs solo record has fallen in 4 days.
With Sunday being depressed this number points to Venom as still likely to exceed 200m USD.
There is a bad exchange rate at play holding Venom back when translating ¥ to USD.
CBMs total runs in China (¥)
Spiderman Homecoming - 774 million
Doctor Strange - 750 million
Thor Ragnarok - 743 million
Logan - 730 million
Justice League - 690 million
Black Panther - 662 million
Ant Man 2 - 831 million
Wonder Woman - 609 million
X-men Apocalypse - 800 million
Venom 3 day
Friday 223.1 million
Saturday 302.7 million
Sunday 223.5M million
Total: 749.3 million
Édit: in China Venoms Monday drop will be about 59.9% (89.5M). AMATWs solo record has fallen in 4 days.
With Sunday being depressed this number points to Venom as still likely to exceed 200m USD.
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Only thing that it has going against it is that May is packed with releases. Other than that I can see it being huge, especially if Avengers 4 opens a week early like Infinity War did and gives it some breathing room.
I was skeptical, but that trailer's getting some major attention. Could be a real dark horse.
Did Avengers 4 ever officially move to April? Detective Pikachu seems to be a week after and I could see it being surprisingly big. Not big enough that it'd really impact Avengers 4 in any meaningful way. But still. Two weeks alone are better than one week.
Both. It cratered after the limited opening weekend, so that probably killed whatever its expansion prospects were.
Those morons could have had it years ago. Their inability to keep a director must mean the script was dogshit tho, dunno why they couldn't get a good handle on it
The lead for the film was a great choice imo, and looking at this venom result regardless of the movies quality it might have done pretty well
I think Doug Liman cited the script for why he left. But with him, Rupert Wyatt (Rise of Apes dude), Gore Verbinski, and I think Joe Cornish... they blew through some interesting directors.
Want to say they were casting other roles at a point, too. I recall stories of Lea Seydoux and Lizzy Caplan signing on. They might've been the same character at different points in time. Who knows.
The pitch of a heist movie in a world of mutants always sounded fun. Basically could've been Logan Lucky with superpowers.
I'm actually a little surprised it did that poorly. I got thrown off when I did finally see it, as it was the first time I'd been in a single-digit audience in a long ass time.
Felt like the WOM around me would help it get a fairly modest sum or at least enough to just be simple disappointment. Although the marketing kinda ground to a halt right after that main trailer came out + the divided reviews.
I can't believe that detective Pikachu exists, and how similar a vibe it has to the Super Mario Bros movie, except... good?
The dark aesthetic of it darn near reminds me of There Will Be Brawl.
Do you mind talking about how it's different from the Argento original? I heard that it was a remake in 'the feeling it gave' and I'm curious as to what shape that took.
Just add a few more 'Pika Pika's in the next trailer and they're golden.
Oh god why do I feel like Detective Pikachu and The Sonic Movie comparisons are going to be the embrassing outcome of the 16-bit wars in a nutshell.
The dark aesthetic of it darn near reminds me of There Will Be Brawl.
Do you mind talking about how it's different from the Argento original? I heard that it was a remake in 'the feeling it gave' and I'm curious as to what shape that took.
Just add a few more 'Pika Pika's in the next trailer and they're golden.
Oh god why do I feel like Detective Pikachu and The Sonic Movie comparisons are going to be the embrassing outcome of the 16-bit wars in a nutshell.
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You all doubted me.
You all doubted my power.
But you didn't understand.
I am power.
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Pika.
You all doubted my power.
But you didn't understand.
I am power.
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Pika.
Another "saw a movie I wouldn't have because of my kids" review-- Grinch was surprisingly OK. It actually starts out pretty funny and entertaining but unfortunately limps over the finish line for the whole third act. The problem with giving the Grinch depth is that it completely deflates his turn at the end.
But Grinch hating on Christmas in the first act and his random acts of meanness is pretty funny.
But Grinch hating on Christmas in the first act and his random acts of meanness is pretty funny.
I've only seen a little bit of the original, but it definitely drops all the super colorful/pulpy cult cinema vibe for something more straight edge arthouse that deals with several other themes/subplots. It still has its interesting quirks though such as really sticking to that Cold War aesthetic both on surface and substance levels (nearly cackled the first time they did that silly 1970s style zoom-in lol).
The last half an hour is pretty batshit though, both for better and worse. It's definitely different from the original.
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EAT
YOUR
VEGETABLES
If this scene isn't in the movie then this whole MonsterVerse thing will have been a waste of time.
And so it came to pass that on the fourth day, through grace and dignity, did Venom become the highest grossing stand alone superhero movie in Chinese history; whilst also accepting the great power and —in accompaniment— great responsibility of the highest user ratings in history of any feature whos content has been transmuted from the pages of a comic book. Long may tatter-tots reign.
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China update: Venom is looking to only be down 10% on Tuesday which is massive. FB2 screenings aren't doing so hot so Venom might with week 2.
Basically if Tuesday comes in strong then a 2x multiplier in China is locked.
Edit: Locked in.
Though it is still a stretch, it's now a possibility that Venom could out earn Spider-Man Homecomings total worldwide gross of 880 million. It's almost a lock that Venom will end up sub 50 million to it. Guardians 2 (863m) is no longer an impossible get.
Anyone who thinks that Venom 2 won't perform as well is kidding themselves imo. User ratings for this film have been very strong. They will certainly bump up the budget, increase the shoot time, and probably have a better script for the sequel. Tom Hardy will have even more reign to fly like the beautiful crazy man that he is.
Edit: Tuesday Estimate (China)
Venom 79.5M/937m
For reference Jurassic World 2 did 64.8 million/1004m on its first Monday, and that was a holiday. So Venom is positioned strongly to overtake JW2 lifetime.
JW2 life time total 1695M or 261 million in China. Dont assume that anything short of Iron Man 3 and Black Panther is safe.
Domestically Venom is nowdoubling the daily takes of Logan, which earned another 7.9 million after day 39. Venom currently sits at 207 million and could add up to another 20 million (high end) with current trends. Realistically it could catch Logans total.
Basically if Tuesday comes in strong then a 2x multiplier in China is locked.
Edit: Locked in.
Though it is still a stretch, it's now a possibility that Venom could out earn Spider-Man Homecomings total worldwide gross of 880 million. It's almost a lock that Venom will end up sub 50 million to it. Guardians 2 (863m) is no longer an impossible get.
Anyone who thinks that Venom 2 won't perform as well is kidding themselves imo. User ratings for this film have been very strong. They will certainly bump up the budget, increase the shoot time, and probably have a better script for the sequel. Tom Hardy will have even more reign to fly like the beautiful crazy man that he is.
Edit: Tuesday Estimate (China)
Venom 79.5M/937m
For reference Jurassic World 2 did 64.8 million/1004m on its first Monday, and that was a holiday. So Venom is positioned strongly to overtake JW2 lifetime.
JW2 life time total 1695M or 261 million in China. Dont assume that anything short of Iron Man 3 and Black Panther is safe.
Domestically Venom is nowdoubling the daily takes of Logan, which earned another 7.9 million after day 39. Venom currently sits at 207 million and could add up to another 20 million (high end) with current trends. Realistically it could catch Logans total.
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I was having a really hard time thinking about what my favorite movies from this year were and I didn't know why until I realized that everything from the beginning of the year to Mission Impossible feels like it came out last year.
This year will be the death of me.
This year will be the death of me.
This is fucking hilarious. The icing on top is that the general audience actually love this film. I still can't wrap my head around how it's outgrossing higher rated and more popular properties like this.
Yo you'll never hear the end of it if Venom actually does in the extreme distant shot passes Spider-man. It would be so absurd.
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The worldwide total without China probably wasn't going to quite reach 600M.
Also exchange rates for the Yuan are down about 8% since Jurassic World 2 came out.
Jurassic World 2 made a bit shy of 1.7B RMB in China. Which would be about 244M now. Venom would have to make closer to 300M in China to reach Homecoming. 285-290M.
Venom could hit those numbers, or come close enough to it with late stage legs from the rest of the world carrying it over Homecoming. We'll know more once China's 2nd weekend numbers are coming in.
600m w/o China isn't impossible but you're right that it would most likely gotten close to 600m.
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'Not quite 600M' already counts the remaining rest of the world gross. Rest of the world was around 565M as of Sunday, with a 12M worldwide weekend outside of China. Down from 23M the weekend before. Venom is going to get hit hard in several territories this week due to Fantastic Beasts 2 launching.
Even if Venom hits 600M even, no one is projecting 280Mish in China at the moment. Just the possibility of passing Jurassic World 2.
Edit: fixed up the post to better reflect my intended tone. :)
I'm saving there exists scenarios where China doesn't quite hit those numbers but table scraps from the rest of the world going over 600m still gets it there.
You predicted 750m - 800m when the weekend numbers for China came out and I felt that was very conservative by about 50m on each end, regardless of anything we can both agree that Venom is going over 800m.
The point bringing that up is, '—No one is predicting—' might as well be the tag line on the films poster.
Gavin was predicting 200m in China after the OW. That seemed too low. Others projecting low 200m seemed low. All of them are now saying that JW2 (with conversion btw) is in danger. Out earning the first Monday (that was a holiday) for JW2 is a bit more than just 'above JW2' even with the 8% devaluation (made posts about that earlier).
Furthermore, this isn't like when I made the case of Black Panther breaking 700m. There's no line in the sand here. The scenario is still a distant one even if I'm more confident that about the probability that Venom can reach 600m without China, than I assume you are.
No one predicted Venom to do what it has been doing, in any market. We'll know more soon; until then we can enjoy the ride :P
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FB has a fan screening tonight at RPX screens. I was wondering why Thursday shows looked so empty.
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