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Azzanadra

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I don't care too much for that, but I think another IP has huge potential.. Pokemon. The idea of collecting monsters, evolving and using them in battles and having an entire world surrounding it on a fully realized world. No idea how Sony hasn't put large dollars on something like that
- more focus on storytelling, characters
- monster hunter type of hunting at times
- that has a much better online focus in 1v1, 2v2, hunts
- badass action RPG where you and the monsters are being involved.. a hyped up Ni No Kuni

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I think death stranding is November 2019. Voice actors are already finished according to Troy Baker. Sony is praising how fast this huge game is being developed. Mark Cerny is helping with development and this year the game awards will have a big gameplay/combat loop demo.

I just can't see both TLOU 2 and Death Stranding being in the same year. I'd actually prefer TLOU2 to be 2020. Keep it far away from Days Gone.


What game is this?
 

StuBurns

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Folklore was so charming.

A bit of a slog honestly, but I loved it. There was a PSP sequel I never played I believe.
 

SilverX

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Of course, if it really is in development they'll need to make it feel fresh enough to carry forward, no-one said otherwise. But what's that got to do with Chloe being the protagonist?

The only way there'd be more Tomb Raider comparisons is if the game design starts resembling it a lot more (shitty XP systems, upgrades, etc), not because they both happen to have female leads. Come on, Crystal Dynamics may've copied a lot from Uncharted but they've still differentiated it more than "that one has a boy and that one has a girrrl." That's almost as silly as you thinking British and Australian accents are the same.

Wherever Uncharted goes next, Chloe is my preferred protagonist but I'll probably be fine with whatever they do. Unless if they go with Cassie anyway, that's just a bad, uncreative idea.

The similarities between Chloe and Lara are painstakingly apparent yet you have made it clear you are downplaying them because you admit she is your preferred protagonist. I mean please..... you are acting ridiculous focusing on subtle differences like Australian vs. British accent, that she is part Indian but would not be known by anyone unless Naughty Dog made it part of her story, and the fact that you cant see she has a similar hair style and clothing style to the latest Lara Croft.

I like Chloe too, same with Sam and Sully, but all of them fall short of being suitable to be the main focus of Uncharted PS5 for different reasons. And if you think about it, why would a new studio take on Uncharted if they have only the lesser characters to work with? It makes no sense really and is the exact opposite of what they have been doing with their franchises recently. God of War had Kratos transform into almost another character with the changes they made to him.
 

StuBurns

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Chloe being the protagonist of LL was wholly earnt, but we all know it's Cassie, on some year out from Uni trip to Thailand or something.
 
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Pretty sure this hasn't been posted before however Supermassive Games has confirmed they are working on more exclusives:


What extent these exclusives are (from Until Dawn 2 to another shovelware PSVR title) is anyones guess.

https://www.reddit.com/r/PS4/comments/9we7l5/supermassive_games_until_dawn_is_working_on/

Interesting I assumed with the announcement of Man of Medan being Multiplatform they would no longer work on an exclusive for Sony. I bet the Sony games they are making is another VR or Playlink title though. Hopefully the studio doesn't stretch themselves to thin considering Bravo Team and the Inpatient didn't turn out to well.
 

SolidSnakex

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Interesting I assumed with the announcement of Man of Medan being Multiplatform they would no longer work on an exclusive for Sony. I bet the Sony games they are making is another VR or Playlink title though. Hopefully the studio doesn't stretch themselves to thin considering Bravo Team and the Inpatient didn't turn out to well.

I remember after they finished UD they said that they think there are some interesting paths they could take with that type of game that aren't necessarily horror based. Hidden Agenda was more of a cop/detective game. I'd like to see them continue to explore different options, and hopefully they do so without something like Playlink. Just make it traditional like UD.
 
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I remember after they finished UD they said that they think there are some interesting paths they could take with that type of game that aren't necessarily horror based. Hidden Agenda was more of a cop/detective game. I'd like to see them continue to explore different options, and hopefully they do so without something like Playlink. Just make it traditional like UD.

Yeah I like the premise of Hidden Agenda but never finished the game because I couldn't stand using my phone as a controller.
 

THE GUY

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The similarities between Chloe and Lara are painstakingly apparent yet you have made it clear you are downplaying them because you admit she is your preferred protagonist. I mean please..... you are acting ridiculous focusing on subtle differences like Australian vs. British accent, that she is part Indian but would not be known by anyone unless Naughty Dog made it part of her story, and the fact that you cant see she has a similar hair style and clothing style to the latest Lara Croft.

I like Chloe too, same with Sam and Sully, but all of them fall short of being suitable to be the main focus of Uncharted PS5 for different reasons. And if you think about it, why would a new studio take on Uncharted if they have only the lesser characters to work with? It makes no sense really and is the exact opposite of what they have been doing with their franchises recently. God of War had Kratos transform into almost another character with the changes they made to him.
I'm with you on this. If they're going to carry on with the franchise, then they need to divorce themselves from the existing characters. Be it Sully, Sam, Chloe, or Cassie (which would be the dumbest choice of them all considering the ending in UC4), they're all just Drake's side pieces. They should take the opportunity to craft a whole new story with fresh characters. It allows for far more story opportunities and there's potential to really spice things up if they want to change the time period or something. Uncharted is my favorite franchise at the moment, but my interest would dwindle a fair bit if they really went with such an uninspired route, and I know I ain't the only one.

A lot of peeps attachment to the franchise comes from Drake himself, and they need to reboot in order to really differentiate moving forward. Just make a clean break from everything. Especially since it will allow them even more longevity in the future as you'd set the precedent of changing things after a story comes to an end. This is one franchise where you can make it work. Keep the set-pieces, the general combat and game-play, but play around with settings and a fresh cast. Naughty Dog is more than capable of crafting memorable new characters so I see no reason to literally chain yourself to side characters.
 

StuBurns

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Whilst Cassie would be a cliché, it's certainly not 'dumb'. One of the central themes of UC4 is the genetic predisposition towards wanderlust. Drake and Sam crave adventure, they're addicted to it, and they were born to it.

Cassie is the daughter of two people with a strong desire for those adventures, and by the game's own logic, so is Cassie.
 

gundamkyoukai

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I'm with you on this. If they're going to carry on with the franchise, then they need to divorce themselves from the existing characters. Be it Sully, Sam, Chloe, or Cassie (which would be the dumbest choice of them all considering the ending in UC4), they're all just Drake's side pieces. They should take the opportunity to craft a whole new story with fresh characters. It allows for far more story opportunities and there's potential to really spice things up if they want to change the time period or something. Uncharted is my favorite franchise at the moment, but my interest would dwindle a fair bit if they really went with such an uninspired route, and I know I ain't the only one.

A lot of peeps attachment to the franchise comes from Drake himself, and they need to reboot in order to really differentiate moving forward. Just make a clean break from everything. Especially since it will allow them even more longevity in the future as you'd set the precedent of changing things after a story comes to an end. This is one franchise where you can make it work. Keep the set-pieces, the general combat and game-play, but play around with settings and a fresh cast. Naughty Dog is more than capable of crafting memorable new characters so I see no reason to literally chain yourself to side characters.

I would love if they went with a new cast but i don't think they need a clean break .
Having a Chloe or Sully show up for chapter or 2 with the new cast won't be bad .
Once the new cast is done well the old side characters showing up should not be a problem .
 

THE GUY

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Whilst Cassie would be a cliché, it's certainly not 'dumb'. One of the central themes of UC4 is the genetic predisposition towards wanderlust. Drake and Sam crave adventure, they're addicted to it, and they were born to it.

Cassie is the daughter of two people with a strong desire for those adventures, and by the game's own logic, so is Cassie.
I think it's dumb because it betrays the themes of Uncharted 4. It's demonstrated for us that the Drake's are fulfilling their wanderlust but in a much safer and more appropriate way. Dragging Cassie into this inevitably drags the Drakes into it, and it's just dumb because we're entering the kind of quality I'd expect from fan fiction where there's usually little integrity. And I don't think you can realistically adjust the game-play for it. The combat is sublime in UC4 and they need to carry on with it. Removing that, or trying to make it restricted doesn't make it any better. Even a little would ultimately betray UC4 and the entire ending that was given to the Drake's. We don't need to see Cassie's story or the next generation. Some things are better left to the imagination.

I would love if they went with a new cast but i don't think they need a clean break .
Having a Chloe or Sully show up for chapter or 2 with the new cast won't be bad .
Once the new cast is done well the old side characters showing up should not be a problem .
I'd rather they just aim to create a whole new cast. But I'm also kind of hoping they change the setting and go back to the 1930s or something which would make old characters showing up impossible anyway. The technology change would allow for them to really get interesting with weapons and settings.
 

Nightengale

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Looking at the Supermassive situation and circumstances, it feels like a situation where Sony would like to continue working with Supermassive, but at the same time the dev themselves are conscious in wanting to make a multiplatform release of their best-style of game ( Until Dawn style )

I feel like this is just a situation where Sony, in their want to continue working with those devs, but those devs also having different ambitions for certain projects and having different partner opportunities, meant that Sony has to queue up behind other publishers in terms of core project priority.

From and Supermassive are the two most likely developers, given that Sony has shown a continued interest to fund projects by those devs, but for some reason it's not a direct continuation of previous projects. ( Bloodborne, UD )
 

Cthulhu_Steev

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Looking at the Supermassive situation and circumstances, it feels like a situation where Sony would like to continue working with Supermassive, but at the same time the dev themselves are conscious in wanting to make a multiplatform release of their best-style of game ( Until Dawn style )

I feel like this is just a situation where Sony, in their want to continue working with those devs, but those devs also having different ambitions for certain projects and having different partner opportunities, meant that Sony has to queue up behind other publishers in terms of core project priority.

From and Supermassive are the two most likely developers, given that Sony has shown a continued interest to fund projects by those devs, but for some reason it's not a direct continuation of previous projects. ( Bloodborne, UD )

Do you think Sony are comfortable with 'come back and work with us when you're ready'? It seems to me they are, let the developer have freedom to pursue other ideas, but still have a working first party relationship.

It probably gives the devs a cushion as well - maybe explains partly why Supermassive take on so many projects that haven't been huge sellers; they've had Sony ticking away supporting them.
 
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Not crazy about Sam either, I dont think he is a strong enough lead for Uncharted 5. I have thought about this for a while and I can only come to the conclusion that it needs a new main cast. Either that or do the cliche choice of continuing the series with Drake´s daughter

This is my first choice. Cassie or Nadine. Either would be fine, but if you go with Cassie first you can probably never have another with Nadine as the lead. I really don't like prequels which is why I hate the idea of a Sully based game.

You are comparing that generic game (Sony deemed it to be generic anyway) which looked like a clone to Destiny with the this most successful GOW ever made? Do you think that Sony won't greenlight anotehr GOW on PS4 which will be even more establsihed by then after the tremendous success of this GOW? Keep in mind Cory Barlog is still there and this is a first for a GOW game: keeping the same director for the next GOW game. He even planned the story for the next GOW game and was even cutting stuff from this game to keep it for it sequel. Dunno why everything sounds implausible by some as if this is impossible or that never happened before



GOW2 would not be feasible so early on PS5 sicne SMS will always have to adapt the engine if not create an engine from scratch for every new PlayStation to keep up with the new graphic standards. It always will take a while to release the first GOW on a new PlayStation. Always count 4-5 years for it come. While releasing a sequel on the same console having to use the same engine on it with the same assets and gameplay mechanics would not take more than 2 years at max. It will also sell more on the millions of the PS4 sold rather than the few PS5 sold.

There is no way in Hell the next GOW will release on PS4. Period.
 
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Nightengale

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Do you think Sony are comfortable with 'come back and work with us when you're ready'? It seems to me they are, let the developer have freedom to pursue other ideas, but still have a working first party relationship.

It probably gives the devs a cushion as well - maybe explains partly why Supermassive take on so many projects that haven't been huge sellers; they've had Sony ticking away supporting them.

I dunno if they're comfortable with it, but it's not like they're hurting from not having sequels for those games in active development immediately after. They're not the biggest sellers, and Sony has other AAA projects from other devs ( internally or externally ) to make up for it on a portfolio basis.
 

LiquidSolid

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The similarities between Chloe and Lara are painstakingly apparent yet you have made it clear you are downplaying them because you admit she is your preferred protagonist. I mean please..... you are acting ridiculous focusing on subtle differences like Australian vs. British accent, that she is part Indian but would not be known by anyone unless Naughty Dog made it part of her story, and the fact that you cant see she has a similar hair style and clothing style to the latest Lara Croft.

I like Chloe too, same with Sam and Sully, but all of them fall short of being suitable to be the main focus of Uncharted PS5 for different reasons. And if you think about it, why would a new studio take on Uncharted if they have only the lesser characters to work with? It makes no sense really and is the exact opposite of what they have been doing with their franchises recently. God of War had Kratos transform into almost another character with the changes they made to him.
Wat, you're accusing me of downplaying the similarities because she's my preferred protagonist when it's pretty obvious the only reason you think they matter (or in some cases even exist) is because you don't want her to be the protagonist. To be clear, plenty of other posters have said they didn't want Chloe to be the protagonist on the next Uncharted game and I didn't reply to any of them. The only one I replied to was yours because you were stretching to ridiculous lengths to try and justify your opinion.

There is no "subtle" difference between British and Australian accents, WTF are you going on about? Are you even a Silverchair fan? They're completely different. Chloe has never been white, so it really doesn't matter when Naughty Dog made her Indian descent part of her story. They could've gone in a completely different direction and it wouldn't make a difference, she'd still be brown and look nothing like Lara. "Long dark hair" doesn't make character designs similar, especially when they don't wear it the same way. And as for the clothes, sure they both basically wear the same kind of clothes but at the same time, when those clothes basically amount to jeans/khakis and a form fitting shirt, it's hard to take you seriously. It's basically just the female equivalent of what Nathan Drake wears.

If you don't want Chloe to be the protagonist because you want them to have a fresh start, then say that. That's a valid opinion, even if I disagree. But stop with the "she looks like Lara and it'll be compared to Tomb Raider" bullshit, it's embarrassing.

Carrying on with Chloe makes perfect sense to me given how much The Lost Legacy fleshed her out and made her even more interesting than she was before. She isn't even remotely a "lesser" character and there's a shitload of directions they could go with her. Going with a completely fresh cast is a big risk and could possibly alienate fans if there's no ties at all to the old series, it'd be a hell of a lot easier to take what's familiar, introduce new characters and then branch off from that. Personally, I'd move in a Yakuza 4-esque direction where instead of just a single protagonist, they have an ensemble cast and switch between them at different parts in the story.

If you want to ask me what makes no sense, it's turning Cassie into a treasure hunter like some made for TV sequel. I thought it was lame when Mortal Kombat and Gears of War did it and I'd think it'd be lame if Uncharted did it too.

Looking at the Supermassive situation and circumstances, it feels like a situation where Sony would like to continue working with Supermassive, but at the same time the dev themselves are conscious in wanting to make a multiplatform release of their best-style of game ( Until Dawn style )

I feel like this is just a situation where Sony, in their want to continue working with those devs, but those devs also having different ambitions for certain projects and having different partner opportunities, meant that Sony has to queue up behind other publishers in terms of core project priority.

From and Supermassive are the two most likely developers, given that Sony has shown a continued interest to fund projects by those devs, but for some reason it's not a direct continuation of previous projects. ( Bloodborne, UD )
It depends whether we're going to see the Supermassive that produced Until Dawn or the Supermassive that produced Hidden Agenda, The Inpatient and Bravo Team. The fact Supermassive have said they want to release a new Dark Pictures Anthology game every six months makes me think those games are probably closer to Hidden Agenda in size and budget than an Until Dawn and that doesn't give me much faith in them or whatever they're working on with Sony.
 

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You guys realise this isn't a real war, right? Supermassive Games is independent and can work with whichever partners they like. They're currently working with Bandai Namco and judging by recent interviews Sony too.

That's really all there is to it. If another publisher wanted to work with them and they had the capacity to fulfil the project, I'm sure they would too.
 

zsynqx

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In an interview from yesterday Cory stated that God of War has underperformed, due to what he believes to be a lack of marketing push on Sony's part, while also remarking that Microsoft's momentum is undeniable right now and they're certain to be entering the next gen with guns blazing. Take from that what you will.
God of War underperformed? That can't be right, unless Sony was expecting GTA/Red Dead numbers.
 

Evangelista

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In an interview from yesterday Cory stated that God of War has underperformed, due to what he believes to be a lack of marketing push on Sony's part, while also remarking that Microsoft's momentum is undeniable right now and they're certain to be entering the next gen with guns blazing. Take from that what you will.
And that too really weird his comments.
 

Hope

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In an interview from yesterday Cory stated that God of War has underperformed, due to what he believes to be a lack of marketing push on Sony's part, while also remarking that Microsoft's momentum is undeniable right now and they're certain to be entering the next gen with guns blazing. Take from that what you will.

Lack of marketing. It was everywhere and it sold a shitton. And acknowledge the competition is nothing special. It happens from time to time and he's right tho.
 
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