This games are the property of Nintendo. They don't have to do anything with it. Nintendo isn't a charity organisation.
Obviously I hope that NSO will improve over time, but the sentiment that they, a company, owe us anything, is just so strange.
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Nintendo “wins” 12 Millions in lawsuit to ROM site
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This games are the property of Nintendo. They don't have to do anything with it. Nintendo isn't a charity organisation.
Obviously I hope that NSO will improve over time, but the sentiment that they, a company, owe us anything, is just so strange.
Usually they offer page redirects that pay pennies per thousand impressions. Those certainly add up quite quickly though! Ad.fly is one such example.
Nintendo preserves their own games, even when fans made a stink about Nintendo using rom sites to Download SMB, it turned out they didn't even do that.
If it's actually about preservation, don't host games that are widely available.
If it's actually about preservation, don't host games that are widely available.
No yeah definitely, and I certainly don't believe this couple has earned that much from the site. Nintendo definitely wants to scare the rest of the other rom sites out there though.
Preservation, of course.
Most people agree that all the video games need to be preserve digitally when possible and I agree with the preservation approach. So that site pretty much dumped, preserve, and keep the databases almost all of classic games.
It just those games should not be allowed to be downloaded freely and available to the public.
What does it mean to sign over the domains? They don't want someone to start up the site again under the same name?
Imagine how much money Nintendo could make if they had proper e-store with all of their classic but i guess they rather spend it on lawcases.
I think the main issue was they were making a profit from the use of those illicit roms.
If it were a nonprofit organization looking to preserve the story of gamin would be a very different story.
Or maybe not, there is not a copyright law that says that in order to keep your rights you need to actively protect your intellectual property or something like that? This kind of lawsuits might be just because of that.
If it were a nonprofit organization looking to preserve the story of gamin would be a very different story.
Or maybe not, there is not a copyright law that says that in order to keep your rights you need to actively protect your intellectual property or something like that? This kind of lawsuits might be just because of that.
Those things apparently don't bring into too much money. Both Sony and Nintnedo are putting less and less focus on it and third parties are doing collections or remasters instead even when the services are available.
This money probably will never reach them but who knows. lol
If they don't, nothing will happen regardless of it. Just people speaking on the internet as always here and there, some youtube videos and nothing of impact. lol
If they don't, nothing will happen regardless of it. Just people speaking on the internet as always here and there, some youtube videos and nothing of impact. lol
Nintendo has an interesting history with legal action...I feel like they spend a lot in legal fees trying to assert copyright that they could easily invest into creating a legal market for whatever they're suing over and make way more money.
That's not to say it's not their legal right. It just strikes me as odd from a financial perspective. Providing access to things for a reasonable amount is the most profitable way to combat piracy.
IIRC most European countries actually have better international copyright protection than the US, so it should certainly deter individuals in those nations just as much.
That's not to say it's not their legal right. It just strikes me as odd from a financial perspective. Providing access to things for a reasonable amount is the most profitable way to combat piracy.
IIRC most European countries actually have better international copyright protection than the US, so it should certainly deter individuals in those nations just as much.
If a non-profit organization did it, Nintendo would sue anyways. They're the worst of the worst when it comes to this.
Honestly, I think Nintendo should release collections on PC like Sega does.
Is there any case of this happening? Or we are just projecting based on a piracy sites being sued?
Yep. Wouldn't have to download ROMS if they, you know, offered them directly. Hell, I've bought plenty of VC games and I'm still willing to repurchase those games, but they're locked to past consoles that I don't want to bring out to exclusively play a few older games.
What sucks is some folks decided to operate a website and sell stolen IP. They got what they deserved.
User Banned (3 days): rationalising piracy
I find the reverse to be far stranger -- to defend the interests of a capitalistic entity against your own.
The actual human beings who worked on those games, I'd wager that 99% of them do not get any sort of shared revenue from Nintendo re-releasing their work, whether on Virtual Console or NSO or whatever. So from that perspective, a ROM is simply democratic. Particularly for games that are not in any kind of circulation whatsoever, ROMs are merely a way to continue sharing the art that many people worked hard to make for the purpose of someone playing and enjoying it. It doesn't matter, in any meaningful sense, to the engineer/coder/programmers of SNES games whether Nintendo's share-holders get a small percentage from re-releasing. So let's be sure to separate the difference between "the people who made these games" and "Nintendo LLC."
It's true that the games are Nintendo's "property." It doesn't make it morally right. And so to position corporate boot-licking as a virtue is really just a bizarre take.
Put another way: Nintendo doesn't care about your financial well-being -- you shouldn't care about theirs.
I mean, they take down fan-games regularly. It's not unreasonable they would do this unless Nintendo agreed to donate their games to the non-profit site.
So what does nintendo want people to do? Go out and buy these new? Oh wait, Nintendo gives zero shits about it's extensive back catalogue of retro games.
Instead they just ruined some poor families life. Hope the couple doesn't have any kids, they definitely can't afford college now.
Fuck you Nintendo.
Instead they just ruined some poor families life. Hope the couple doesn't have any kids, they definitely can't afford college now.
Fuck you Nintendo.
They take down fangames which is gaining huge traction or the product is going to compete with a product they literally is making atm. Like Samus Returns with AM2.
I dont see the abundant Mario, Pokemon and Zelda fangame get close? Hell single search on google give u tons of games to choose.
It kinda does? Just by the nature of collecting things over time, a lot of those ROMs were games that weren't be circulated in any form. Now that they've destroyed those ROM sites, they've also destroyed any practical means of playing those games unless Nintendo chooses to rerelease them in some form. If they don't rerelease them then they've basically destroyed those ROMs for pretty much no reason AND risked those games being completely wiped out.
Lol Never understood why people would side with corporations on matters like these.
Oh. They are so poor that they are building that whole Rom sites for charity guys. Not for profit for sure based on all those ads money.
Keep in mind people do make emulation rigs out of pi's as well as modded PSPs, NEs classics and SNES classic.
I don't think there's been any specific case, but the Internet Archive doesn't even bother trying to put any Nintendo stuff on there because of their history with this compared to everyone else.
No they want you to sign up for Nintendoflix, so you pay indefinitely to play them
It's Nintendo's choice to do what they wish with their IP. It's not yours or anyone else's to make their property available.
Isn't that exactly what happened with emuparadise? They saw this lawsuit and called it quits, right?
They did a mass takedown on Gamejolt I think, thought that was probably because Gamejolt being a big hosting site made it easy for them to do it in the first place.
Regardless of their financial state, they are going to be poor now.
Your absolutely right, get the site shut down if they want. Don't ruin an entire families life. Even their kids lives (who are completely innocent, provided they have kids) will likely be ruined financially for this. I hope wherever this family lives, debt is not transferred to their children upon death in their country.
It's not worth it creating these sites to me. Especially knowing the risks.
Play it on old systems. And if you missed out, you missed out.
Wait for nintendo to open the vault.
Wasn't the biggest issue with these specific sites not the actual roms but the fact that they had dressed the entire site in Nintendo IP and copyright?
Like Nintendo has let Emu site run rampant for decades and could have easily shut any one of them down at any time, but unlike some of those, these particular sites were blatantly using Nintendo copyrighted stuff.
I mean, just lay low, don't dress up like a Nintendo owned site, and don't make a big deal, and to be extra cautious don't put Nintendo 1st party games on the rom site, and odds are they won't care.
Like Nintendo has let Emu site run rampant for decades and could have easily shut any one of them down at any time, but unlike some of those, these particular sites were blatantly using Nintendo copyrighted stuff.
I mean, just lay low, don't dress up like a Nintendo owned site, and don't make a big deal, and to be extra cautious don't put Nintendo 1st party games on the rom site, and odds are they won't care.
But who's going to fall for that? It's such a ridiculous number I don't no one would believe that they will pay anywhere close to that, let alone to close their own sites.
Aren't all Nintendo Power issues available there already? The only thing they take action against is actually playable content, the rest they've never cared about.
Even then there are the games Nintendo has no control over, which is a big part of the reason why people want rom preservation.
I'm not defending anything. It's very simple. It's their property, they can do whatever they want with it and in this case they rightfully sued for direct and indirect copyright and trademark infringement. It's their right.
I would love if all their games would be legally available, but for now it's not the case. You know, games aren't vital for life, so it's strange to demand such things.
Oh. So the people who (illegally) provide this ROMs have talked to the "actual human beings who worked on those games" and actually they have their permission?
Many people who worked on NES or SNES games are still Nintendo employees and they created the games in full awareness of the fact that their creations would belong to Nintendo.
I don't care for the well-being of their financials (as long as they are still in business), but I support the right of individuals or (in this case) companies to protect their properties.