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Benji

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah Benji's hesitation on platform rankings means to me that someone is unexpectedly in the lead. Would be pretty crazy if the RDR2 XBX deal put Xbox at the top.

Its more this time of year things start getting weird.

Promotions are different at different retailers. Inventory levels are different between them. The clientele starting changing gearing up for the holidays.

The data just starts to look a little bit harder to read. Just like last year I've said what I can see in my end but cant account for the whole market even if I can a decent share of it.
 

Sangetsu-II

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Oct 26, 2017
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Its more this time of year things start getting weird.

Promotions are different at different retailers. Inventory levels are different between them. The clientele starting changing gearing up for the holidays.

The data just starts to look a little bit harder to read. Just like last year I've said what I can see in my end but cant account for the whole market even if I can a decent share of it.

If anything I'll just put my PS4 and XB1 predictions close so I'm safe either way lol.
 

Bunkles

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Oct 26, 2017
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Its more this time of year things start getting weird.

Promotions are different at different retailers. Inventory levels are different between them. The clientele starting changing gearing up for the holidays.

The data just starts to look a little bit harder to read. Just like last year I've said what I can see in my end but cant account for the whole market even if I can a decent share of it.

Interesting, thanks for the clarification!
 

Benji

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Interesting, thanks for the clarification!

No problem.

Just like Switch. On my end it looks like it might be up YoY despite the difficult comp against Odyssey launch last year. It could be something my data is bias to though and it's not as strong proportionately at places I dont have visibility to
 

Benji

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be clear we are only 1 week into November tracking and Switch is soaring already
 

Elandyll

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ah, end of year prediction threads, how I've missed ye. :)
 

Simba1

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Dec 5, 2017
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We'll see. I'm not convinced that it will be.

Last year Switch sold in November around 800k and in December around 1.5m, this year with Pokemon and Smash, with MK8D bundle for Switch and plenty of other available bundles (Pokemon and Smash bundles, same like Fortnite...), we probably talking for 1m+ for November and 2m+ December.
 

Bunkles

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Anecdotal but... as a father of two young boys I definitely travel in circles where there are a lot of kids (swimming lessons, daycare, etc). I've noticed these past few months a massive uptick in Switch sightings. Daycare usually the kids have tablets or 3DS but now I'm seeing Switch everywhere. Even two kids by the pool had the lime green Switch last night. If I had to guess it would Fortnite be tipping the scales... If last Christmas was about the hardcore gamer snagging the Switch, I think this Christmas is the one where mom and dad are gonna get their kids the Switch, especially with Pokemon and Smash.
 

K Samedi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anecdotal but... as a father of two young boys I definitely travel in circles where there are a lot of kids (swimming lessons, daycare, etc). I've noticed these past few months a massive uptick in Switch sightings. Daycare usually the kids have tablets or 3DS but now I'm seeing Switch everywhere. Even two kids by the pool had the lime green Switch last night. If I had to guess it would Fortnite be tipping the scales... If last Christmas was about the hardcore gamer snagging the Switch, I think this Christmas is the one where mom and dad are gonna get their kids the Switch, especially with Pokemon and Smash.

Well the lineup certainly is stronger towards kids appeal this year. Its also getting very good third party support lately so Smash, Pokemon, Mario Party and games like Diablo 3 will bring in a broad userbase.
 

Zedark

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be clear we are only 1 week into November tracking and Switch is soaring already
Neat. We saw something similar in the UK, where switch seemed to increase quite noticeably judging by the increase in sales referred to by Christopher Dring. Will be interesting to see if Japan sees similar increases. Can you say anything about how pokémon is doing?
 
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Deader2818

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Oct 25, 2017
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From what I saw the One X was mostly pushed by the trade promo at gamestop + the $100 off with RDR2.

2 things to remember though

1) The trade promo only worked on the One X that didnt have the game. Did not work on NBA or Fallout

2) Most stores did not have a lot of stock of the game less One X bundle so that hurt the potential sales.

Once those systems ran out, people lost interest in just getting a One X with RDR 2.
 

Lelouch0612

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Oct 25, 2017
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That and Super Mario Party are the most impressive legs for the month for sure

Spidey is such a great success story !

You know what's funny about Super Mario Party ? There is a 40$-saving bundle releasing in November and December is its favorite month.

Its legs won't be cut off soon, it might reach some impressive numbers here.
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
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To be clear we are only 1 week into November tracking and Switch is soaring already

Have you noticed Pokemon LG start to have an effect? You (and other retail insiders) had noted that Pokemon preorders were pretty low for Pokemon, has that changed much as the release got closer?
 

Welfare

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Oct 26, 2017
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The Switch absolutely will not outsell PS4 in 2018.

The Switch will also be down YoY on a per-month basis, which I got laughed at for predicting before 2018 began.
No way in hell does Switch sell less this Q4 than 2017. Absolutely silly to even suggest that.

Also, unless Sony has the $199 deal in December, expect it to get destroyed by Switch. 2017 already showed what is in store for PS4 sales if they only have the $199 deal in Black Friday week + Cyber Monday. December alone can make up all the difference between Switch and PS4.
 

OG_Thrills

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Oct 27, 2017
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All this talk about the 1X helping MS take the month has me slightly confused. Does the RDR2 PS bundle not count towards the month?
 

talkTOmyHAND

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From what I saw the One X was mostly pushed by the trade promo at gamestop + the $100 off with RDR2.

2 things to remember though

1) The trade promo only worked on the One X that didnt have the game. Did not work on NBA or Fallout

2) Most stores did not have a lot of stock of the game less One X bundle so that hurt the potential sales.

Once those systems ran out, people lost interest in just getting a One X with RDR 2.

I've tracked Gamestop online bestsellers list for PS4 and X1 since X1 RDR 2 started at 25th Oct. and it lasted till 3rd Nov. Neither X1 console with RDR 2 didn't reached top 50 in 10 days, while PS4 RDR 2 bundle was at top 10 ( 6th and 7th place till 2nd Nov. ), just below PSN cards and RDR 2.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14736654/
 

Penny Royal

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Oct 25, 2017
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From what I saw the One X was mostly pushed by the trade promo at gamestop + the $100 off with RDR2.

2 things to remember though

1) The trade promo only worked on the One X that didnt have the game. Did not work on NBA or Fallout

2) Most stores did not have a lot of stock of the game less One X bundle so that hurt the potential sales.

Once those systems ran out, people lost interest in just getting a One X with RDR 2.

That's an interesting observation about price sensitivity, thanks Deader2818
 

Welfare

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I've tracked Gamestop online bestsellers list for PS4 and X1 since X1 RDR 2 started at 25th Oct. and it lasted till 3rd Nov. Neither X1 console with RDR 2 didn't reached top 50 in 10 days, while PS4 RDR 2 bundle was at top 10 ( 6th and 7th place till 2nd Nov. ), just below PSN cards and RDR 2.

https://www.resetera.com/posts/14736654/
Xbox One had like a dozen SKU's selling during that deal. You can't use one SKU not reaching a certain rank as evidence for anything.

I have no idea what to expect from the PS4 and XB1 this month. Should be a crazy time.
 

WillySJ3

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Oct 31, 2017
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X1 can be up by triple digits % and still be last in units sales. Oct 2017 was abysmal. I still haven't decide my final prediction.
 

GamerDude

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Oct 28, 2017
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No way in hell does Switch sell less this Q4 than 2017. Absolutely silly to even suggest that.

Also, unless Sony has the $199 deal in December, expect it to get destroyed by Switch. 2017 already showed what is in store for PS4 sales if they only have the $199 deal in Black Friday week + Cyber Monday. December alone can make up all the difference between Switch and PS4.

lol the Switch is not going to destroy PS4.