Yeah, I'm sure he has, but that's being reactive, not pro-active. I wish I'd see a more permanent solution being sought out. Sometimes those comments are a downright cesspool, and obviously ignoring them doesn't make'em stop.
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Yeah, I'm sure he has, but that's being reactive, not pro-active. I wish I'd see a more permanent solution being sought out. Sometimes those comments are a downright cesspool, and obviously ignoring them doesn't make'em stop.
Yeah, I probably spend too much time going through the YouTube comments, even when Ian has specifically told me to just leave them alone. But YouTube's structure isn't always conducive to catching them all, and yeah there are times when I can't look them over until a day or two later. There is a filter now at least that catches some of the worst. I realize too that comment moderation is about judgment calls and there are things that I might leave alone that others would delete.
I know this is gonna be kind of a shot in the dark but does anyone remember if there was any podcast or Huber Syndrome where Huber talked about the Witcher 3 expansion Hearts of Stone? I could have swore there was and now that I just finished it (masterpiece btw) I went back trying to look for it. So far I'm on Frametrap 5 and he's talking about Blood and Wine, will check out Huber Syndrome's later.
Yep, I'm gonna miss getting the podcasts early. But ah well, it is what it is at this point.
I reviewed Hearts of Stone at GT, so it probably was a Huber Syndrome or a Just Played episode.
Like I said before. It is not something I would do, but I don't really mind him going on a different podcast, even if it is from that guy.
I wouldn't want it to be the other way around, but what Jones does in his spare time is his own decision imo.
I understand that a lot of patrons are disappointed, but if you are honest you knew this was probably going to happen anyway (and not because Jones doesn't care or something like that, that seems absurd to me, he clearly was torn about it).
I will not watch or listen to it as I don't care at all for the host, but I am not sure it is as bad for the patreon/community as some of you think it will be.
Any new asshole comments will probably be removed (hopefully Bloodworth doesn't have too much extra work with that) and the people who stay are probably nice/ok new people to support EZA.
Again: It's not because you like some person's videogame content (and that person happens to be an Asshole politically) that you have the same perspective as that person has politically (and again, I don't watch his stuff, but I am just talking in general).
I wasn't specifically hoping Jones would go, but as long as Colin doesn't come on EZA content it's fine with me personally.
I wouldn't want it to be the other way around, but what Jones does in his spare time is his own decision imo.
I understand that a lot of patrons are disappointed, but if you are honest you knew this was probably going to happen anyway (and not because Jones doesn't care or something like that, that seems absurd to me, he clearly was torn about it).
I will not watch or listen to it as I don't care at all for the host, but I am not sure it is as bad for the patreon/community as some of you think it will be.
Any new asshole comments will probably be removed (hopefully Bloodworth doesn't have too much extra work with that) and the people who stay are probably nice/ok new people to support EZA.
Again: It's not because you like some person's videogame content (and that person happens to be an Asshole politically) that you have the same perspective as that person has politically (and again, I don't watch his stuff, but I am just talking in general).
I wasn't specifically hoping Jones would go, but as long as Colin doesn't come on EZA content it's fine with me personally.
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Dang has it really been that long =(, well guess I'ma be doing some digging.
I know this is how things goes in boxing mangas, but i'm in my bed about to burst into tears.
Just listened to Cup of Jones. Jones barely even addressed the problems people have with Colin himself. He talked about how people don't want Colin's community to come over to EZA but not much else.
Before addressing the Colin issue, he said that he doesn't want people to "name-call" and kept repeating that if people do that he'll basically disregard the comment (and sure enough, not a single comment that described Colin as sexist, racist or whatever was read) but I wonder if he actually knows why people call Colin those things.
You guys certainly changed my mind on Colin when we were talking about this the other day by bringing up shit he's done but despite all the times Jones brings up "ResetEra" in Cup of Jones, it seems like he hasn't seen that himself. Someone should tweet him the facts or something because I really don't feel good about Jones being on a show with someone who basically says "there's no racism in the US because Asians".
Before addressing the Colin issue, he said that he doesn't want people to "name-call" and kept repeating that if people do that he'll basically disregard the comment (and sure enough, not a single comment that described Colin as sexist, racist or whatever was read) but I wonder if he actually knows why people call Colin those things.
You guys certainly changed my mind on Colin when we were talking about this the other day by bringing up shit he's done but despite all the times Jones brings up "ResetEra" in Cup of Jones, it seems like he hasn't seen that himself. Someone should tweet him the facts or something because I really don't feel good about Jones being on a show with someone who basically says "there's no racism in the US because Asians".
People already posted numerous examples in last week's CoJ comments. He obviously doesn't care.
I wondered if those posts were included in the name-calling comments that Jones made. Because calling someone who says racist/sexist things racist/sexist is not name calling. Sure, no one wants to be called those things (at least not anyone semi-decent), but they were not being used as insults. That was people labeling his behaviour which he doubled down on.
Lol just saw it. What a weird payoff to years of preparing this.
I'd have to go back but I'm almost certain when he referred to name calling, he was specifically talking about generalisations and calling people things like "snowflake" etc.
That would almost be better as in we wouldn't have to see
Ippo facing the disappointment in everyone's faces
Well i mean, this is how most boxing mangas (and real boxe) ends up.
its a shame you'll be leaving the community and stopping watching eza content over two people having a single conversation about video games. i dont think it'll be the end of the world like you think it will but its your money and your call. but maybe reconsidering coming back later down the line.
I am interested in seeing the talk with Colin. He typically is more upbeat and less dour when opposite someone other than Greg (probably a subconscious thing for him to be contrarian for the sake of it).
I am surprised though it is happening after Colin did that tweet. That wasn't good and wonder if jones was aware that happened
I am surprised though it is happening after Colin did that tweet. That wasn't good and wonder if jones was aware that happened
Yeah, he said he will miss getting the podcast early, so I don't think he's going to stop watching EZA lol.
Isn't his fireside chats a Colin Patreon only thing anyways? And they're audio, not YouTube vids.
Oh man, Ian's twitter posts/thread hes doing now are making me tear up.
https://twitter.com/ianhinck/status/935642055941832704
https://twitter.com/ianhinck/status/935642055941832704
I wish I was as good a person as Ian. Def wouldn't be able to deal with the shit he gets the same way.
He has more or less the same opinion I have to be honest.
It's funny (and purely coincidental) but as far as I remember he has the same birthday/birthdate (not sure how you say this in English) than I do (not sure about the year).
I have to be honest that I would probably have a hard time adhering to those rules as well with all the comments he gets. Even if I usually don't care that much what people who I don't know say or think about me, it would be very hard to not reply.
Especially when they're about him as a person. It's fine to respect people's right to disagree with you and I see the value in being able to shake off insults but at some point you have to draw a line and say to certain people: you do not deserve love or respect for your beliefs and/or behaviour.
In a sense, yes, at least in terms of clarifying that their behaviour is not tolerated. But at the same time, there are people who change when their hatred is met with kindness. I respect people who can keep calm in those circumstances, because yes, it's very hard when you're faced with those kind of comments repeatedly.
Yes. It's my money. Colin's a racist. EasyAllies is a business.
I'm voting with my wallet. I certainly won't be resubbing to EZA if all handling of complicated things goes the way Jones handled this, aka, ignoring the underlying issue.
I know that, my post is expressing my disagreement.
I can agree with his sentiment of not letting the toxicity (OF OUR CITYYYYY) take over and that's something I've definitely struggled with, I'm just always repelled by the 'live and let live' sentiment, especially when it comes to stuff like Colin, GGers, YT comments etc. I know he said he's not talking about anything specific but these tweets haven't come out of nowhere.
you dont fight weeds with more weeds. and you dont beat intolerance with more intolerance.
I think that was more about our community (or the communities) than anything else. I don't think Ian is saying you shouldn't call out problematic things, although there is a constructive way to do that, too.
This is Ian's response to a similar comment to this in that twitter thread
https://twitter.com/ianhinck/status/935648799921287168
To those who say you shouldn't engage with hateful folks at any level
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/5448...0-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes
https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/5448...0-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes
lol trinity is that a real response? I can do this too. I guess voting with my wallet is literally killing people and throwing them away. *shrug*
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