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Stalker

Stalker

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
6,726
So…
Broly probably getting added to the main cast huh?
Looks like it might end that way, at a later date. He isn't a bad guy so much as a weapon for paragus and we don't know the circumstance of him being saved but I'm guessing it's a "suns getting real low" affair and he chills the fuck out
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,324
Jury is out, depends if
Gogeta Blue > Ultra Instinct Goku. I'm guessing Gogeta is weaker since UI has those insane dodge stats and that perfect attack stuff.

I doubt Broly is stronger. Goku and Vegeta are probably forced to fuse when Goku can't go UI
I see. Kind of disappointing.
In fairness it requires a SSJB fusion to beat broly, ( apparently he is about beat before being saved) Both SSJB vegeta and goku working together can't beat him so he could very well be on Jirens level and he doesn't have any super special forms. The green hair saiyan is the same one Kale had which per official description is just the "Berserker state" of Super Saiyan.

Vegeta is the saiyan that forces himself to overcome and attains power that way.
Goku is the fighting prodigy out to always better himself
Broly is just raw fighting power

We essentially have a very angry Super Saiyan going Toe to Toe with 2 Super Saiyan Blues.

if Broly got more forms like Super Saiyan God or Blue or even SSJ3 he could very well be making Jiren look like a jobber.
Well, if Berserker green is the intermediary between SSJ1 and SSJ2 ala Kale, and Broly lives through the movie, he could very well get to Jiren's level.
I just really want a Broly v Jiren one day, someday. *sigh*
 

Dust

C H A O S
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,169
Also

It seems movie takes many beats from Fusion Reborn, Gogeta is no chill full blown assault type person.
 

donkey

Sumo Digital Dev
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
4,853
Also

It seems movie takes many beats from Fusion Reborn, Gogeta is no chill full blown assault type person.
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Sander VF

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
25,943
Tbilisi, Georgia
I'm glad if this means he's not really stronger than Jiren.

It would be a very needless dose of power creep. Since Goku doesn't have his UI anymore, so you could easily have Broly being an overwhelming powerhouse without putting him over Jiren.

Actually, that would put him in the ballpark of Fused Zamasu, wouldn't it? Maybe somewhat beyond. Then again it's possible that He's actually as strong or stronger than Jiren.

Also, if any one of you wanted him to be stronger than angels, then you're on some "his power is maximum" stuff.
 

Hero Prinny

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,189
I was hoping they'd also just make ssj4 gogeta design canon as well by just making that one the base form but since there's no mention of it I guess ssj4 gogeta design will continue to be a dream
 

stone616

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,429
Knew it was a pipe dream but was hoping that
Gogeta would go UI and in doing so Vegeta would learn it

Still sounds good though.
If Vegeta gets a power up consider it a hand me down power up that's about to get replaced with something better. Until then he can't get one. He'll never get a ground breaking power up like that in its prime.
 

i-hate-u

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,374
Rant incoming
WHY THE FYCKKKK ARE THEY SHELFING THE BEST SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION SINCE SUPER SAIYAN 2???????????????????????

BRUH, THEY SPEND A YEAR HYPING UP UI AND IT TOTALLY DELIEVERED. NOW, WE GOTTA PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A YET ANOTHER SHITTY AND PREDECITABLE FUSION OF GOKU AND VEGETA TO END THE FIGHT?

STOP MAKING VEGETA A MAIN CHARACTER
 

Dust

C H A O S
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,169
Rant incoming
WHY THE FYCKKKK ARE THEY SHELFING THE BEST SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION SINCE SUPER SAIYAN 2???????????????????????

BRUH, THEY SPEND A YEAR HYPING UP UI AND IT TOTALLY DELIEVERED. NOW, WE GOTTA PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A YET ANOTHER SHITTY AND PREDECITABLE FUSION OF GOKU AND VEGETA TO END THE FIGHT?

STOP MAKING VEGETA A MAIN CHARACTER

These movies are more of cross media content source. New Gogeta is just money making machine when looking at figures, gacha,console games and similar stuff. UI is out and there, it is not "exciting".
 

V_ac

Avenger
Jul 2, 2018
3,798
Rant incoming
WHY THE FYCKKKK ARE THEY SHELFING THE BEST SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION SINCE SUPER SAIYAN 2???????????????????????

BRUH, THEY SPEND A YEAR HYPING UP UI AND IT TOTALLY DELIEVERED. NOW, WE GOTTA PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A YET ANOTHER SHITTY AND PREDECITABLE FUSION OF GOKU AND VEGETA TO END THE FIGHT?

STOP MAKING VEGETA A MAIN CHARACTER
The whole "I don't know how to naturally access it" bit regarding UI at the end of the ToP didn't scream "UI won't be back for a while" to you?
 

NekoNeko

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
18,447
remind me again why whis helps the z fighters but doesn't rescue them when needed by just beating broly?
 
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.exe

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,219

Proxy-Pie

Member
Apr 3, 2018
500
I wonder if Paragus and Broly are aware of planet Vegeta's destruction. If so (or if they find out), then I wonder how Paragus reconsiders or something.

He's the first Saiyan we see reach old age. I hope they have a lot of exposition about him.
 

sibarraz

Prophet of Regret - One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
18,102
The movie is out in Japan? I could swear that it was going to be released on December with a ww release on January
 

VariantX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,880
Columbia, SC
Lol nope it's already better doing away with the shitty reason he ever hated Goku in the first place

Honestly would have found those old movies infinitely better without that stupid aspect. He just has to hate goku because hes the star of the movie, when he really should have been hating and beating the living shit out of Vegeta for the most part. At the very least just being a dick to everyone equally.
 

Shroki

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,911
remind me again why whis helps the z fighters but doesn't rescue them when needed by just beating broly?

Because he's a capricious dick who has a very limited investment level.
Rant incoming
WHY THE FYCKKKK ARE THEY SHELFING THE BEST SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION SINCE SUPER SAIYAN 2???????????????????????

BRUH, THEY SPEND A YEAR HYPING UP UI AND IT TOTALLY DELIEVERED. NOW, WE GOTTA PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A YET ANOTHER SHITTY AND PREDECITABLE FUSION OF GOKU AND VEGETA TO END THE FIGHT?

STOP MAKING VEGETA A MAIN CHARACTER

Vegeta has been a main character for 30 years and 400+ episodes of Dragon Ball. You think you'd be over it by now. He'll never be less than the second most important character in the franchise again. Deal with it.

As for predictable, I'm not sure Goku clowning Broly in UI was less predictable than Gogeta. It's just we just saw Goku stomp a dude in UI in the show and they're gonna want to do something special for film goers. There's gonna be another series here, and there's plenty of time for UI to come back.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,467
Rant incoming
WHY THE FYCKKKK ARE THEY SHELFING THE BEST SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION SINCE SUPER SAIYAN 2???????????????????????

BRUH, THEY SPEND A YEAR HYPING UP UI AND IT TOTALLY DELIEVERED. NOW, WE GOTTA PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A YET ANOTHER SHITTY AND PREDECITABLE FUSION OF GOKU AND VEGETA TO END THE FIGHT?

STOP MAKING VEGETA A MAIN CHARACTER
Nah, vegeta should get the win and UI by himself for a couple three sagas. Tired of Goku.
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
52,950
Rant incoming
WHY THE FYCKKKK ARE THEY SHELFING THE BEST SAIYAN TRANSFORMATION SINCE SUPER SAIYAN 2???????????????????????

BRUH, THEY SPEND A YEAR HYPING UP UI AND IT TOTALLY DELIEVERED. NOW, WE GOTTA PUT THAT ASIDE FOR A YET ANOTHER SHITTY AND PREDECITABLE FUSION OF GOKU AND VEGETA TO END THE FIGHT?

STOP MAKING VEGETA A MAIN CHARACTER
Vegeta IS a main character and has been for over 20 years. He is more important than Gohan and Piccolo at this point.



Might as well stop complaining now.
 

Lord Vatek

Banned
Jan 18, 2018
21,507
I guarantee that Whis stalling won't be about actually helping them and more be about really wanting to see Goku and Vegeta fuse.
 

NekoNeko

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
18,447
In a way, but he's an angel not a person and he also just spent an entire saga smugly smiling through the possibility that they all get erased from existence. Including Beerus.

but there wasn't really anything he could've done about that situation, zeno could've deleted him too if he intervened.