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kswiston

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This is ResetEra's weekend box office thread. While the OP focuses on the popular weekend tallies, we typically discuss box office throughout the week as well when notable films are playing. New threads are are posted each Sunday morning, between 8-10am PST.



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'The Grinch' Who Stole Business: Dr. Seuss Pic Opening To $66M As 'Overlord' & 'Spider's Web' Wither

Yesterday, matinees drove Saturday business for the Dr. Seuss yuletide classic to an estimated $27.5M, +47% from Friday keeping The Grinch on track for a $66M opening per Universal. That's Illumination's 7th No. 1 opening and Uni's fourth No. 1 opening in the last eight weeks after The House With a Clock in its Walls, Night School and Halloween.

The animated feature comes in with a thrifty Illumination production cost of $75M before P&A. Unlike The Nutcracker and the Four Realms last weekend, the holiday toon is cheaper and off to a great start for legs in the weeks to come.

The Grinch sells itself. It's from the Minions factory, and that guarantees a certain sense of humor to moviegoers (one of the most successful trailers, per RelishMix, at 2.5M YouTube views was the one where the Minions actually watch The Grinch trailer in a theater and laugh their butts off). In addition, The Grinch is a beloved holiday classic that, like the 2000 version, expands the story without turning the classic upside down and alienating family crowds.

On Screen Engine/ComScore's PostTrak, audiences are giving The Grinch a solid 4 stars and an 83% overall positive. It also earns an A- CinemaScore. Parents and kids both gave it 4 1/2 stars. Friday's audience had a 43% kid turnout, 18% parents, and 39% general audience. 58% moms to 42% dads showing up, with the strongest demos being females under-25 numbering 38% and men under-25 at 27%. Kids and parents give The Grinch around a 75% 'must see right away' (definite recommend) with girls under-12 outnumbering boys under-12, 56% to 44%.

Paramount's Overlord, which cost $38M before P&A, edged out its R-rated rival, Sony/MGM/New Regency's The Girl in the Spider Web, $10.1M to $8M in early Sunday AM estimates. Neither film is doing well enough in regards to their openings, a $15M-$20M start would have been great. Spider's Web was done 4% on Saturday from its $2.86M Friday while Overlord eased 2% yesterday with $3.7M.

The feature is a bit of a foster child at Paramount right now: Not only was it shepherded by the previous administration of the late Brad Gray and production chief Marc Evans, but it's produced by J.J. Abrams who is looking to leave the lot and take his overall deal elsewhere. Nonetheless, Paramount was impressed by the reviews that came out of Fantastic Fest and we hear that changed their minds in regards to shelling out a bit more P&A (significantly far less than the $40M-$50M domestic spend that Sony is putting out for Girl in the Spider's Web). In sum, Overlord gets a B CinemaScore and three stars on PostTrak drawing 44% males over 25, followed by females over 25 at 26%. Males over 25 gave the pic its best grade at 75% positive. Overlord, despite its smart zaniness is a calling card for Avery, with more commercial projects headed his way: Deadline exclusively reported that Fox locked him down to write and direct Flash Gordon, of which the filmmaker is a longtime fan.

The failure of The Girl in the Spider's Web is myriad, despite being cheaper than the 2012 U.S. remake, $43M to $90M. MGM only has 20% skin in Spider's Web with Sony selling down its majority stake to New Regency. "Even if this film grosses 70% overseas, it's hard to see it breaking even," says one trusted film finance source. Sony is calling the weekend at $8M, and rivals believe it's lower than that –around $7.7M– with A Star Is Born in the No. 5 spot with $8M, and can't stop domestic running total of $178M in weekend 6.

Spider's Web gets a B CinemaScore and 75% overall positive score drawing M25 and F25 equally at 39%. Relish Mix says on the social media buzz: "Moviegoers are confused as to why Rooney Mara is not returning to the series. They are also confused why the studio skipped over original entries (referring to the novels) to a lesser known tale. There is also a legitimate, non-polarizing contingent saying that to them, this film's materials over-emphasize the female protagonist. Whether or not the film has a #MeToo movement theme, some moviegoers feel alienated by the violence."

Bron Studios/Sony's The Front Runner from director Jason Reitman currently boasts the best screen average for a specialty release this weekend with $14K at four NY and LA venues (or $56K 3-day opening), but that's really horrible when you consider that it's a limited launch of an awards contender wannabee. That screen average needs to be between $40K-$50K a screen at the bare minimum for a fall contender's limited launch. At 62% fresh on RT, critics aren't impressed. And that score is enough of a scandal to prevent people from voting with their wallets for this political drama about Gary Hart's 1988 presidential campaign which was derailed by an extramarital affair. In its Tuesday through Sunday run, The Front Runner is expected to make an awful $76K.

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DOMESTIC WEEKEND BOX OFFICE



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WORLDWIDE BOX OFFICE UPDATES





Venom - $674M
A Star is Born - $323M
Bohemian Rhapsody - $285M
Halloween - $246M
Smallfoot - $204M
The House with a Clock in its Walls - $126M
The Nutcracker and the Four Realms - $97M
First Man - $94M
The Grinch - $79M
A Dragon Tattoo Story - $16M







Weekend Box Office Archive and Appendix


Thread Archive

Web links to box office resources

Explanation of Box Office Terms, Abbreviations, and Concepts
 

VaanXSnake

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Venom passing a Justice League movie could be some kind of joke but it's the reality we're living in, amazing!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's too bad we never got a sequel to the 2011 version of Girl with the Dragon Tattoo when it seemed like most on board wanted to do it.

Edit: This new one is directed by the guy who did the Evil Dead remake and Don't Breathe? Hard pass.
 
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kswiston

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Venom also passed Man of Steel, and will pass Doctor Strange tomorrow.

At this point the very low end is going to be $750M. Probably closer to (and possibly over) $800M.
 

Pariah

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Many men and women are giving small steps to make First Man a profitable movie. Millenium is a sad story (what could have happened with the original team, a few years ago, we'll never get to know) while Venom and A Star Is Born keep doing great business. ASIB won't reach La La Land overseas, but WB gave another marketing lesson in America.
 

Rabbit

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I tried to watch The Grinch last night. I made it about 2/3 of the way before I left. It's not terrible, but I was just really bored after a while and I didn't care to finish it to the end.
 

Deepthought_

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Venom is such s cool looking character they did a good job in making him come to life


I will be seeing the Grinch soon
 

Violence Jack

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The JL hits just keeps coming. A Spider-Man villain movie with no connection to the MCU Spidey, and Woody Harrelson in a bad wig beat a film with fucking Superman, Batman, and WW. That will never stop being amazing to me.

So is this Grinch better than the Jim Carrey one?
 

Fularu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man The Nutcracker is an insane bomb

Worse than Solo and A Wrinkle In Time for Disney

Rough year outside of Marvel for Disney tbh (and Pixar)

I hooe Wreck it Ralph actually wrecks it (I absolutely love the first one)
 

Grisby

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Oct 29, 2017
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Feel like Overlord should have been an October movie. It's a legit good flick so hopefully it does well/better.
 

less

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man The Nutcracker is an insane bomb

I don't see it hitting $70 million domestic. Depending on upcoming drops I think that $60 would be pushing it quite a bit.

Kinda sad to see Overlord with such a low opening. Also, congrats to Venom...completely shat on my predictions. XD
 

Ogodei

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Oct 25, 2017
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That Grinch feels completely toothless. Skeptical as I've ever been of Carrey's Grinch, it at least felt Grinchy. This just seems like a generic loner-and-his-dog story.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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Venom passing both ASM films and Winter Soldier is kinda out there in terms of *shit absolutely no one saw coming*.

Guess there is hope for Gambit after all, don't sleep on 90s nostalgia.
 

Dierce

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The JL hits just keeps coming. A Spider-Man villain movie with no connection to the MCU Spidey, and Woody Harrelson in a bad wig beat a film with fucking Superman, Batman, and WW. That will never stop being amazing to me.

So is this Grinch better than the Jim Carrey one?
That's what Snyder brings to the table. DCEU was doomed the moment that guy was hired to lead it. His JL film was a mess so Whedon had to come in to try to fix it.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Why would you wide release a Nutcracker film in 2018? Put that shit on Netflix or the Disney channel or ABC if you're desperate.
 

Principate

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Oct 31, 2017
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Venom passing both ASM films and Winter Soldier is kinda out there in terms of *shit absolutely no one saw coming*.

Guess there is hope for Gambit after all, don't sleep on 90s nostalgia.
Gambit always had potential as did Venom Era has a very skewered perception on the mainstream popularity of characters most commonly many people on here think there own bias against these characters translate globally. Even when such characters have already proven their popularity.
 

SilentMike03

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Oct 27, 2017
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Going to see Spider's Web today. I only knew it came out by chance from a youtube ad. There's been no buzz about it. I enjoyed Dragon Tattoo a bunch so I hope this is good too.
 

jett

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Oct 25, 2017
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Venom about to outgross nearly ever non-teamup MCU movie.
 

Bitanator

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Oct 27, 2017
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I tried to watch The Grinch last night. I made it about 2/3 of the way before I left. It's not terrible, but I was just really bored after a while and I didn't care to finish it to the end.

So you just described every illumination movie.

The Grinch voice was not grinchy enough, ruined the movie
 

Arkaign

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Nov 25, 2017
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That's what Snyder brings to the table. DCEU was doomed the moment that guy was hired to lead it. His JL film was a mess so Whedon had to come in to try to fix it.

Snyder is hot diarrhea. Hopefully this is enough to convince studios to stop wasting valuable franchises on him. I've known this since '300'. Great trailer, but 2 cool minutes of slow mo and soundtrack does not a movie make.
 

Zaied

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Oct 27, 2017
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And Venom was supposed to be a lame 90's relic that no one cares about in 2018, and only works if he's fighting Spider-Man.

Also, when Doctor Strange outgrossed Justice League, I knew Venom had a realistic shot, given that he's a way more popular character.
 
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Dierce

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Snyder is hot diarrhea. Hopefully this is enough to convince studios to stop wasting valuable franchises on him. I've known this since '300'. Great trailer, but 2 cool minutes of slow mo and soundtrack does not a movie make.
300 is also one of the alt-rights favorite films. Snyder is always drawn to randian characters, he even tried to make his superman into one which is why it massively failed.
 
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