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Phil Spencer: I’m Taking a Bigger Role into Making Windows Store Tailored Towards Gamers [READ OP]
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Oh, for sure. I had just hoped we would see something by now. People have been complaining since 2015 and they've acknowledged the problems for over a year now.
I will never get why MS did nothing to gain the pc gaming market. Guess that Valve with it initiative around Steam made they remember that there is a good amount of pc gamers that only use windows because it is mandatory for gaming.
Downloads not starting.
Downloads not working.
Downloads not resuming forcing users to re-download the entire game again and again.
Downloading 100-1000% of the real download size because of bugs. A 10gb game turning into a 50gb download because of errors.
Installing games not working.
Uninstalling games not working.
Games not launching.
Basic stuff.
Sounds more like he's managed to finally wrestle it away from the Windows team and is bringing it under his wing.
Some people here are so weird. Doesnt matter to them what Spencer says positive and negative. Even if he delivered on most he has promised. Studio's, Gamepass, BC, Mouse and keyboard, Crossplay, Xbox One X etc.
Sure will see when we see it. But he deserved some benefit of the doubt. But i dont think i will see it in this thread.
Edit: I am not talking about MS i am talking about Spencer. Please read.
Sure will see when we see it. But he deserved some benefit of the doubt. But i dont think i will see it in this thread.
Edit: I am not talking about MS i am talking about Spencer. Please read.
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For sure. It's obviously taking time, which is frustrating. Just no real reason to doubt that they're actively working on it.
The issue is that MS doesnt deserve the benefit of the doubt with regards to PC. They have been promising time and time again they would put some focus on pc and yet... here we are, with a shitty store again.
"I'm sick of Microsoft putting stupid devs to do a job that they're not doing. I'm gonna fix that and make money" Basically.
Spencer knows that the store can easily be good and make them huge amounts of money and Microsoft just isnt pushing it, and the devs seem to not know what they are doing(and I seriously doubt they even have a proper team, maybe its just randoms joining for a week and then doing something else)
MS is probably the last company i would give the benefit of a doubt regarding pc gaming.
Read again what i say. I give the Spencer example and how it ties to the one in the OP.
In Phil's case, he hasn't been in his new role working directly under Nadella for long. And even though he says these things, it's going to be a process. I think there's some little nuggets to suggest that Microsoft is serious about PC, and we'll continue to see those nuggets for years - but if anyone is expecting them to instantly rectify all issues immediately - they're going to be disappointed. It seems like Microsoft is laying the foundations needed to hit the ground running next generation. I would say all of their little pieces will come together much clearer in 2020 and beyond.
Ms prior to last year had structuring issues and have been restructured to allow something like this to occur. But I get it your frustration.
That was a headscratcher for sure on gamepass for PC. Like what was the point of Matt booty announcing it couple weeks ago and not mentioning it in the 2 hour show.
They need to get these things ironed out if Xbox as a combined platform is to succeed. They have had years to get this done. Unless they remove Xbox games from windows store to put it all in PC/Xbox app then it will be a lost cause.
shocking post
OT: Phil has gotten a lot of shit done that he said he would do. So this being next means it's an inevitability.
Wonder what people will find to bitch about next
Phil Spencer has been around Xbox for 30 friggin years. Honestly what is this selective memory around that?
Lmao... The reason I quit trying to buying games on the Windows store
"Microsoft promises to improve the Windows Store" PCGamer, February 29, 2016
"Phil Spencer interview: 'We have work to go do' on improving the Windows Store, UWP" PCGamer, June 13, 2017
You guys seem new to the "MS actually cares about PC" train ride. There has been tons of different people that have promised that they actually cared (including Spencer) and yet they have always fucked up. Heck, this presentation was another no show for pc even if half the show was pretty underwhealming stuff with no show of pc comments (except that small shoutout to the store he seamed awkward doing and Razor's marketing). They could have easily included some material about... I dont know AoE4 which hasnt been shown since announcement?
It is also important to realize that the MS store is much bigger than the gaming division part so even if Phil Spencer actually cared he wouldnt be able to have that much effect (his literal words were "tinkering a bit" and the store would need a major overhaul to be decent for gaming).
So pardon me for not believing that another MS mouthpiece saying they actually care about pc gaming is true.
I don't know a lot of things in this world but I would bet a donkey's left testicle that Gabe would never sell to Microsoft.
Dont see whats different. People said the same thing about studios and see what happened and Gamepass. Spencer got a huge role in MS now and can now change things.
And he delivered on most of it pretty quick already. So yeah.
Yeah im just playing around, but MS still hasn't got the Store to a great place yet, trying to buy Steam is kind of a option instead at this point.
I personally have yet to suffer a single issue with the Windows Store on my PC, but given how often I have to read complaints about it and the fear mongering around it, I really genuinely hope they put some effort into fixing whatever seems to be the problem.
The reason that people are reluctant to give them the benefit of the doubt is that Microsoft have a long history of at best neglecting PC gaming and at worst being actively hostile towards it. There are still games that are unplayable today because they relied on GFWL.
But yeah I really hope that they can deliver. Especially with the studios they've acquired recently, it would be a great addition to PC gaming if they were to have solid PC support.
But yeah I really hope that they can deliver. Especially with the studios they've acquired recently, it would be a great addition to PC gaming if they were to have solid PC support.
why would people in a pc thread care about what he's done for xbox? PC gaming has been a bugbear for microsoft for a decade now, no matter who says they're going to be making things right i'm going to need a hell of a lot of follow through before i begin to even think about trusting them.
No question. Should that extend to the leader of Xbox's first party?
Do you expect a sincere answer to your condescending question? It is frustrating to see a point about Phil being the savior of Xbox when he's been in the company for 30 years and has been around its first party in a leadership role for at least 10. The idea that only the leader of the entire division is responsible for every decision by every subdivision is ludicrous. This PC stuff has been parroted by him specifically and Microsoft for years and nothing has changed. This is under him, this is his decision and these are the results. Own it. The same way Jack Tretton got owned by Agent year after year.
Unless he has the power to tell them to scrap the Windows Store to rebuild it from scratch, I'm not sure how much Everybody's Hero Phil can accomplish.
How about you make a separate and fully fledged platform for PC gaming and Gamepass, leaving the Windows Store to be solely an apps store as it was originally intended?
How about you make a separate and fully fledged platform for PC gaming and Gamepass, leaving the Windows Store to be solely an apps store as it was originally intended?
nobody on the PC side was complaining about microsoft studios or gamepass, we have all just wanted basic functionality to be available and actually working and they've utterly failed for years
they can't clear the lowest bar possible when it comes to this stuff
This. Really cant stomach any more vague, empty promises from MS about their PC gaming efforts.
We don't know much power Phil has over the Windows Store team. He is the VP of Gaming but as far as I know the Windows Store developers reports to another Microsoft VP, Rajesh Jha who is the VP of Experiences and Devices. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The acquisition of Game Developers seems like it would fall under the purview of the VP of Gaming.
You are really failing to see the point. So i am moving on.
I think what Theorry is saying is that now Phil has said he's taking a bigger role to fix the windows store, the future of it looks bright as he sorted out all the other issues relating to xbox, so there's no reason to doubt he won't fix this issue in a somewhat timely manner aswell.
Phil taking a bigger role in fixing the store can only be seen as a good thing.
I'm actually a little scared of MS actually improving their store without doing away with UWP.
Right now, it's very easy to ignore and not deal with UWP bullshit at all. If their store was actually good and offered value to people, I don't think many will not use UWP out of principle. Most people won't care about modding or how closed down it is.
Right now, it's very easy to ignore and not deal with UWP bullshit at all. If their store was actually good and offered value to people, I don't think many will not use UWP out of principle. Most people won't care about modding or how closed down it is.