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EJS

The Fallen - Self Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
9,176
Sorry if this has been mentioned but what version do you need to buy to get the original bundled as well?
 

tryagainlater

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,250
Doing the escalation they have for Sapienza, maaan, I've forgotten the mine escalations. IO, if you're gonna bring any more old escalations into the legacy maps, skip every one involving mines or tripwires.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I know exactly how it works, I am the lead designer behind the level after all ;)

And you are almost right, but not quite. The target is not a random NPC each time, it is always the same. Though his beard, shirt and trouser look is randomized (his hair and face is always the same, Maelstrom model.)

Also it is not true he goes to the exact same spots, there is slight variations on some if his loop points. However, it is not a lot because we need some kind of predictability otherwise speedrunners will slaughter us. There are other things that make him tricky too, for example he will walk in the other direction if the player starts in certain starting locations, adding new layers to his loop. This is not random, we need to be deterministic since that is part of the Hitman core design.

The reason he is identified when he is killed is that we don't want to funnel the player into doing the same steps over and over again, that might not be fun, instead we reward players who who figure out his loop and enable them to kill him directly.

I hope this explains our design a bit! :)
Congrats on the launch! Or the - uh - prelaunch, I guess. I don't know how it feels on the ground level, but among me and my friends in the industry, you're all rockstars over there. :)
 

Dick Justice

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,542
The briefcase really adds a lot to the whole "virtual tourism" aspect.
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Cocaine Jesus

Member
Nov 4, 2018
162
I just finished Mumbai and wow. I expected it to be Marrakesh 2 with boring, static crowds but I had so much fun with it. Identifying and tailing the target through the market while dodging security was a really unique experience. I played with the UI disabled so visually tracking him through the crowd was actually quite a challenge. Rounding a corner and realizing I'd lost him made me legitimately panic.

All the levels have been great so far but Mumbai made me finally appreciate the crowd system.
 
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More_Badass

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Oct 25, 2017
23,622
I just finished Mumbai and wow. I expected it to be Marrakesh 2 with boring, static crowds but I had so much fun with it. Identifying and tailing the target through the market while dodging security was a really unique experience. I played with the UI disabled so visually tracking him through the crowd was actually quite a challenge. Rounding a corner and realizing I'd lost him made me legitimately panic.

All the levels have been great so far but Mumbai made me finally appreciate the crowd system.
Oh man I can't wait to play for this level. Marrakesh captured the vibe of a spy movie amazingly, so needing to actually track and tail a target through the crowds on tight labyrinthine streets sounds even better
 

Jintor

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,407
Kind of wish it had a better tutorial for crowd or blend mechanics. Does it just reduce enemy vision to the circle around you? Sometimes people see you do stuff in the brush, sometimes they don't.

Having a handy place to stash bodies is great though, love just knocking people out and dumping them in bushes.
 

Blitzrules240

Self requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
28,811
Midwest
Well I finished the campaign tonight, I enjoyed it.

Now I'm gonna go through all the story missions I didn't do and work on the [REDACTED] challenges

Favorite maps were Columbia and Mumbai.

Still lots to do.
 

Musubi

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
23,611
Doing the escalation they have for Sapienza, maaan, I've forgotten the mine escalations. IO, if you're gonna bring any more old escalations into the legacy maps, skip every one involving mines or tripwires.

I actually liked those ones. Having to re-route your approach was a fun problem to overcome.
 

Crazymoogle

Game Developer
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,880
Asia
Columbia gave me a few MGS3 flashbacks. The initial video made it seem like another Colorado hostile zone level but it felt a lot more like Sapienza in practice.

Honestly like all of the levels so far. Columbia is the most instantly memorable but Mumbai might actually be better in the details?
 

Chance Hale

Member
Oct 26, 2017
11,831
Colorado
Colorado being the flattest of levels in the first season is still a heartbreaker. We have old mines in 14,000 foot high mountains, put the base there! They really just slapped the name on.
 
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Sinder

Banned
Jul 24, 2018
7,576
Columbia gave me a few MGS3 flashbacks. The initial video made it seem like another Colorado hostile zone level but it felt a lot more like Sapienza in practice.

Honestly like all of the levels so far. Columbia is the most instantly memorable but Mumbai might actually be better in the details?

Columbia and Mumbai are insane. Sapienza is the only map in h1 that has as much going on I think.
 

Deleted member 1656

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
4,474
So-Cal
Columbia gave me a few MGS3 flashbacks. The initial video made it seem like another Colorado hostile zone level but it felt a lot more like Sapienza in practice.
I was surprised how much Coluombia flows like Sapienza because while Miami resembles Paris in premise, in practice I think it kind of does its own hodge podge. This game twists around what it's done before in interesting ways along with bringing enough new stuff for me.
 
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Jintor

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,407
In Columbia,

anyone know if you can remote detonate the statue?
 

Joeku

Member
Oct 26, 2017
23,475
Not to be the petty wiener...

...but I'm going to be. It's Colombia, folks, not Columbia.
 

CloseTalker

Member
Oct 25, 2017
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I absolutely didn't realize this game had an early release period. Went to play my steam copy from GMG and thought it was bugged on pre load haha. Guess I'm waiting until Tuesday
 

Musubi

Unshakable Resolve - Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
23,611


God this is fucking slick as hell. Every time I think I'm halfway decent at this game I see shit like this.
 

Deleted member 28076

User requested account closure
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Oct 30, 2017
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Has anyone else noticed there's an enforcer in Paris that sees through... the default tuxedo? He's in the bar area, sometimes wanders out to the patio.
 

Deleted member 3700

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Oct 25, 2017
4,359
I have only played Hitman 2016 and this sequel, and I just got my very first SASO, from Hawkes' Bay.

That feels GREAT.

I also started playing Miami. Very overwhelming.


God this is fucking slick as hell. Every time I think I'm halfway decent at this game I see shit like this.

Damn.
 
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Remembrance

Member
Oct 25, 2017
293
Man, the last level is just loaded with references.

- Pretty sure the targets were mentioned or present in Paris, not to mention cross-referencing Ken Morgan's background in Bangkok
- One of the NPCs is an architect identified as "Lowe" (of Hamilton-Lowe)
- Amos Dexter is just straight up in the level, he needs no introduction
- There are still NPCs talking about the 70 people electrocuted by one puddle in Paris video

Much more to find, obviously!
 

Deleted member 3700

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
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Regarding the Android in Knox showroom in Miami:

Apparently it will response to your presence according to disguise. I wore a security outfit and was recognized as a security and told something like "if there is any trouble makers, I will tell you as soon as possible". It even scolded the reporter and told him to get lost. I am going to try all outfits from the level to see what it will say.
 

Jintor

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,407
God, after Mumbai I want to see modern hitman's take on a modern asian city like HK or Osaka or Singapore so bad
 

SmokingBun

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,091
So how does Mumbai look? Fairly modern, something you'd see if you looked through google images or is it more old fashioned colonial era with everyone in kurta's?
Like I know India is a poor country and Indians are poor but sometimes the way we are portrayed in media is ridiculous

God, after Mumbai I want to see modern hitman's take on a modern asian city like HK or Osaka or Singapore so bad

Silent Assassin had Singapore right?
 

Crazymoogle

Game Developer
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,880
Asia
God, after Mumbai I want to see modern hitman's take on a modern asian city like HK or Osaka or Singapore so bad

Honestly they should redo the Tokyo area from K&L2. Though maybe they don't have the rights to that anymore?

Singapore would be great though, could pretty much turn Marina Bay Sands into the hotel level.
 

Joeku

Member
Oct 26, 2017
23,475
God, after Mumbai I want to see modern hitman's take on a modern asian city like HK or Osaka or Singapore so bad
At night. Has to be at night. Can include a club of some kind. Put that crowd tech to work. I think Kane & Lunch was the only time a club ever looked accurately packed.
 

Icemonk191

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,814
Man, the last level is just loaded with references.

- Pretty sure the targets were mentioned or present in Paris, not to mention cross-referencing Ken Morgan's background in Bangkok
- One of the NPCs is an architect identified as "Lowe" (of Hamilton-Lowe)
- Amos Dexter is just straight up in the level, he needs no introduction
- There are still NPCs talking about the 70 people electrocuted by one puddle in Paris video

Much more to find, obviously!

I found one of the NPCs talking about going to the heaven and hell party from blood money.
 

Papercuts

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,013
Got atleast one clear on each level, though it was REALLY messy on the final one. Initial impressions are super high for all of them, can't wait to dig in more.
 

DukeBobby

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,930
Hitman 2: Silent Assassin had this instead:

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Hopefully they will revisit it with a more faithful recreation of KLCC tower or Marina Bay Sands in Singapore. I want to accidentally assassinate a target by throwing them off the infinity pool!

Ah, Basement Killing. Such fond memories of that level.
 

Remembrance

Member
Oct 25, 2017
293
Finished the story! Have to say, this time it really felt like the final level delivered on tying story resolution (three years' worth, in real time) and level content and themes together. It was good as a finale, not just as a mission.

Question about the most glaring opportunity I couldn't figure out in the last mission:

How do you get the real Master of Ceremonies to do the ritual? Because this looks like the only way to use the cannon and there's no way I can both do that and be the MC.
 

A Path Finder

Developer at ioi
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
360
Congrats on the launch! Or the - uh - prelaunch, I guess. I don't know how it feels on the ground level, but among me and my friends in the industry, you're all rockstars over there. :)

Thank you! :)

Hard to express how I feel right now. It is a bit overwhelming. We got nice reviews but the player feedback that is trickling in is even better and that just feels so freakin great.
 

EvilBoris

Prophet of Truth - HDTVtest
Verified
Oct 29, 2017
16,681
Hoo-ey. Finished Mumbai after about 4 hours of playing around, that's a huge map.
I think my total timer was about 90minutes.

I kind wish there was a photo mode, the game is the pinnacle of virtual tourism, it really makes me want to visit India for an actual photo trip
 

BernardoOne

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
10,289
Here goes my first speedrun on Hawke's Bay, Master Difficulty, using the sniper, in 1:44



To explain a few things:

I throw a duck at a door at the beggining because Reynard actually enters a lockdown if she sees any of her doors breached open (a really nice detail).
This makes her hide on the secret room. I throw a grenade into that room, making her go to her secondary lockdown which is in the beach.
I use the Sieger 300 sniper because this one has no building animation like the Jaeger, saving some seconds.
 
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