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henhowc

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Oct 26, 2017
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my favorite part was during jumpforce interview where the bandai namco rep took off his jacket and told everyone to do a genkidama

つ◕_◕ ༽つ give me your energy
 

SPDIF

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Oct 27, 2017
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It was bad and I'm not the only one that thought it was a mess:
I don't speak Japanese, don't know about you, but I'm going to guess this is simply a case of lost in translation. Don't know why you tried to use it to back up your own opinion as if it would actually mean anything.
 

jem

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm a huge Xbox fan, have been since the OG, but there really isn't any defending how much of nothing that event was. It's patently ridiculous to think announcing studio acquisitions should be worth shit to the end consumer. Corporate cheerleaders, warriors with an axe to grind? Sure. Whatever. But to build up an event, and they did build it up to be more than it was, and cap the lackluster announcements with fucking STUDIO ACQUISITIONS is like inviting someone over for a turkey dinner, then spreading your arms wide over an array of stale crackers and telling them to be excited for Thanksgiving in 5 years.

If this is all you have to show, don't do it! Just don't do it! Do a normal Inside Xbox that everyone would just ignore and do your FanFest and move on. Don't try and make a showing of a 2 hour long Game Pass ad interspersed with BC announcements and DLC showcases. You're inviting the disappointment and the anger by doing this kind of thing!

Clearly, it's also a case of people having overblown expectations, but when you're sending out Facebook notifs talking about big news and surprises, you have to have something. Microsoft continues to have nothing. I think this would have made for a good normal Inside Xbox to end the year, personally very excited about FFXIII BC, but the studio acquisitions stuff, with the fucking little screen where they tacked on the new studios, infuriates me.
More first party studios means more first party games which means more games launching on Gamepass.

That seems like a good reason to be excited for studio acquisitions.
 

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You noticed my posts in this thread?

Good for you, if the show was good you would have perhaps seen some positivity from me. They had a good E3, not every MS show can be a good one, and this one wasn't presented at all well. I said, that at the point in which KH3 was shown, that was the best thing they'd shown so far because it was true, and it really didn't get much better from that point onwards. It was a bad show, and they weren't exactly clear on what to expect otherwise even some of the biggest Xbox fans in the MS Studios thread would also not have been hyping up certain expectations for the show, and Klobrille would certainly not have hyped up Crackdown 3 to be something that it still doesn't look to be. What they showed was (a) not much and (b) underwhelming based on what they promised a.k.a 100% destructibility. They didn't even show enough to confirm that it's true, regardless of the gameplay that they pick & chose to show. They only have 3 months until it ships, so that says to me that they're holding it close to their chests (and that's certainly not because of story spoilers).

Also, Xbox didn't confirm that they were making acquisitions (first-party), nor did they confirm first-party game announcements, but people still expected acquisitions because of leaks, and so if that is reasonable, then so are first-party game announcements. How were those "never going to happen"? If Phil mentioned Scarlett at E3, then why is it suddenly unrealistic to expect more news from that at their next show? It was bad and I'm not the only one that thought it was a mess:

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What a weird tweet to quote. You do realize he's talking about the fan enthusiasm hence "the finished the event safely" part. It's a comment in jest that seemingly flew over your head.

Not defending MS' conference (it was bad) but that tweet doesn't mean what you think it means.
 

Hurting Bomb

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Oct 28, 2017
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You noticed my posts in this thread?

Good for you, if the show was good you would have perhaps seen some positivity from me. They had a good E3, not every MS show can be a good one, and this one wasn't presented at all well. I said, that at the point in which KH3 was shown, that was the best thing they'd shown so far because it was true, and it really didn't get much better from that point onwards. It was a bad show, and they weren't exactly clear on what to expect otherwise even some of the biggest Xbox fans in the MS Studios thread would also not have been hyping up certain expectations for the show, and Klobrille would certainly not have hyped up Crackdown 3 to be something that it still doesn't look to be. What they showed was (a) not much and (b) underwhelming based on what they promised a.k.a 100% destructibility. They didn't even show enough to confirm that it's true, regardless of the gameplay that they pick & chose to show. They only have 3 months until it ships, so that says to me that they're holding it close to their chests (and that's certainly not because of story spoilers).

Also, Xbox didn't confirm that they were making acquisitions (first-party), nor did they confirm first-party game announcements, but people still expected acquisitions because of leaks, and so if that is reasonable, then so are first-party game announcements. How were those "never going to happen"? If Phil mentioned Scarlett at E3, then why is it suddenly unrealistic to expect more news from that at their next show? It was bad and I'm not the only one that thought it was a mess:

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Crackdown 3 looked to have 100% destruction to me, this is confirmed in Windows Central preview.

You actually thought they was going to show some Scarlett news? This was very wishful thinking.....it would be it's own separate event or E3 at the very least.
 

Its Dead Jim

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Jan 11, 2018
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You noticed my posts in this thread?

Good for you, if the show was good you would have perhaps seen some positivity from me. They had a good E3, not every MS show can be a good one, and this one wasn't presented at all well. I said, that at the point in which KH3 was shown, that was the best thing they'd shown so far because it was true, and it really didn't get much better from that point onwards. It was a bad show, and they weren't exactly clear on what to expect otherwise even some of the biggest Xbox fans in the MS Studios thread would also not have been hyping up certain expectations for the show, and Klobrille would certainly not have hyped up Crackdown 3 to be something that it still doesn't look to be. What they showed was (a) not much and (b) underwhelming based on what they promised a.k.a 100% destructibility. They didn't even show enough to confirm that it's true, regardless of the gameplay that they pick & chose to show. They only have 3 months until it ships, so that says to me that they're holding it close to their chests (and that's certainly not because of story spoilers).

Also, Xbox didn't confirm that they were making acquisitions (first-party), nor did they confirm first-party game announcements, but people still expected acquisitions because of leaks, and so if that is reasonable, then so are first-party game announcements. How were those "never going to happen"? If Phil mentioned Scarlett at E3, then why is it suddenly unrealistic to expect more news from that at their next show? It was bad and I'm not the only one that thought it was a mess:


You have answered your own question there son...unless there were some leaks about a Scarlett/First Party reveal I'm not aware of?....No? Didn't think so.

Also, the "it was a mess" quote is clearly referring to his segment, not the overall show. I mean, unless you think a dev invited to a console event would actually refer to the event as a "mess" afterwards?

Not liking the show as it was is fine, opinions and all. Not liking the show because it didn't meet your unrealistic expectations is disingenuous at best, even those hyping the show didn't expect Scarlett or First Party stuff.

Be realistic, I was disappointed I didn't get to see Ashen or Below as I felt these could have been shown. But I'd also hyped myself up for X enhancements for ME 1, 2 & 3 but I'm not disappointed they weren't announced as it wasn't really on the cards that was just on me.
 

shounenka

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Nov 22, 2017
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What a weird tweet to quote. You do realize he's talking the fan enthusiasm hence "the finished the event safely". It's a comment in jest that seemingly flew over your head.

Naw, that's reading too much into it. "Finished the event safely" is just a direct translation (machine translation perhaps?) of what was was written in Japanese, It's a common phrase used to say that something ended without incident.

Edit: But yeah, I imagine the "chaos" he was talking about was the fan enthusiasm.
 

OneBadMutha

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Nov 2, 2017
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Wasteland 4..another action rpg in the same vein as fallout would be awesome.

People should read reviews for Wasteland 2 even if they didn't think the game was for them. It's a hard game for console gamers to get into especially without the production values. This is a studio with talent. These are smart purchases. Before OG Xbox I was a hardcore PC gamer and played games from early Bioware, Bethesda, Bungie and others. You can see when a developer has clear creative talent and understands good or innovative game design but needs technical support and some money to increase production values.

Both these RPG developers are smart acquisitions.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
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Naw, that's reading too much into it. "Finished the event safely" is just a direct translation (machine translation perhaps?) of what was was written in Japanese, It's a common phrase used to say that something ended without incident.

Edit: But yeah, I imagine the "chaos" he was talking about was the fan enthusiasm.
It's a machine translation a pretty shoddy one, well not that isn't inline with most of Japanese machine translations.
Loosely paraphrasing but yeah Hashimoto is just saying he is relieved to have finished the event without issues while commenting on the event hall being huge and the busy crowd. There is nothing negative to read in here and people should stop on relying on Japanese machine translation they're just not good.
 

Iwao

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't speak Japanese, don't know about you, but I'm going to guess this is simply a case of lost in translation. Don't know why you tried to use it to back up your own opinion as if it would actually mean anything.
As in... he is a person, an individual, just like me and many others in this thread who thought it was a bad show.

Even if his comment was lost in translation, I used it as more of an aside, not as summation.
 

noyram23

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Oct 25, 2017
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From the very second this was announced it was explained it was just an inside Xbox show during the fan fest 0X18. I rolled my eyes when everyone was hyping up like it was an old media focused 0X event. Everytime MS tried to reset expectations everyone ignored them.
I thought it was more than that too, how PSX was before the mediocre one last year. At least we got some few trailers
 

OneBadMutha

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Nov 2, 2017
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More first party studios means more first party games which means more games launching on Gamepass.

That seems like a good reason to be excited for studio acquisitions.

These first party acquisitions are more significant than teasers for future games. With Microsoft owning the studios, we know the games are in development. 1st party acquisitions means more games into Game Pass and it also means more support for talented developers. There's a difference between a talented studio outsourcing 3/4ths of their talent to keep the studio afloat (like NT) or using Kickstarters (Obsidian and InXile) vs having the backing of a mega tech corporation. It also continues to reinforce Microsoft commitment to the future of gaming.

In summary, acquisitions means talented studios getting more support to put out better games, releasing them day 1 on Game Pass with cross play and eventually streamable.

So yeah, the continued shaming of gamers excited about the acquisitions is getting old. It's significant. If you aren't opposed to buying Microsoft products, it equals better games and better values. More money pumped into the gaming industry.
 

Wedginald

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Oct 27, 2017
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Eh, glad I didnt watch this live, and just caught the highlights later. Gamepass games started off decent, but the last few seemed kinda crappy. I feel for the people who were hyping this up big time and got disappointed lol.
 

Soap

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Oct 27, 2017
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Letting this sink in, I really wonder what Microsoft's aim was with this conference. It didn't exactly Instil confidence in the immediate future, and it certainly woukdn't pull people away from a PS4 or Switch.

In fact I think this caused more issues than it solved. This conference kind of solidified to me, as a European, that Xbox cares about North America first and foremost. I really fon't see how the Xbox brand can grow with its image problem outside North America.
 

Captain of Outer Space

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Oct 28, 2017
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Just watched the archive and it didn't do much for me with not much in the way of new stuff. The Terry Crews bit before the Crackdown 3 segment might have been the best part. The acquisitions being the focus of the show was weird.