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Dr Pears

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All these The Order discussions made me finally go back and platinum the game. Graphics are still incredibly impressive and I want them to either try a sequel or partner with Sony for a new project. They just have that Sony DNA.
 

Electro

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If The Order would have been a game for the second half of this gen I am sure it would have been a very good game.

But it looks like the game was very rushed because Sony wanted exclusive stuff.
 
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I should play The Order again...

Played it at launch and enjoyed it well enough. I hope RaD comes back to the AAA space. I can't get enough of narrative driven games.
 

SageShinigami

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It's just something that happens. MS does something good for itself, Sony is painted as incompetent for a few days or weeks, and then it goes back to a complete lack of concern again, once people realised that the drama was baseless. In some cases, Sony acts and we get a better product or service for it, but when it comes to studio acquisitions the blowback in these threads is such wasted energy.

That's not going to be a problem this time lol.
 

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I like that when Sony does a gameplay reveal for one of their 1st Party games they do a nice, long & uncut segment so you can actually see the mechanics and get an idea of the flow of the game.
 

DreamSurf

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The XO show was really boring, the studio acquisitions were the coolest announcements, I am just confused why they decided to do a big show for what could have been announced in a written report. I am very excited for the VGAs though, so pumped to see DS and maybe TLOU 2.
 

nolifebr

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I should play The Order again...

Played it at launch and enjoyed it well enough. I hope RaD comes back to the AAA space. I can't get enough of narrative driven games.

I played for the first time last month and was surprised. From what I've always seen from comments on the game, I thought it was one of the worst games ever made, but it's a very interesting game. Pretty decent gunplay and close combat, catchy history and and from the technical point of view, is one of the best games of the generation.

Of course, it's a VERY short game, and which often unnecessarily takes away player control. The black bars are also very frustrating sometimes. But I would love to see them working with Sony again in a sequel. The IP itself had quality to be some sort of Gears Of War from Sony, it's a shame to see them giving up so fast.
 

Dabi3

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The XO show was really boring, the studio acquisitions were the coolest announcements, I am just confused why they decided to do a big show for what could have been announced in a written report. I am very excited for the VGAs though, so pumped to see DS and maybe TLOU 2.

It was worse than last years PSX.
 

SolidSnakex

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I am very excited for the VGAs though, so pumped to see DS and maybe TLOU 2.

Time for Joel to make his grand entrance. Obviously he'll be a lot more detailed, but I don't expect him to look dramatically different compared to the last time we saw him. That is unless something has happened to him in terms of being physically scarred by an attack.
 

Nightengale

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Personally, I would ill-advise against it. It's not like anything changed from yesterday to today.

Shawn has given his comments on first-party acqusition, and it's the typical 'nothing to announce at this moment.'
 

Wandu

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Dreams launch or beta date.
Tlou2 gameplay.
GoT gameplay.
DS gameplay.
Wild gameplay and some concrete infos.
Sony Manchester announcement.

Would have been a very good PSX imo.

Still no beta date for Dreams.

I dont think there would be enough time to have a different gamellay trailer for DS, TLOU2, and GoT. It just comes off as an illusion that the games are further along than they really are. Plus it would look like padding.

Who knows when we will see Wild again, but i agree it could be at a PSX 2018
 

SolidSnakex

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I hope we get to play as Joel in Part II. Even if only for a short while.

I'm sure they know that fans will want that to happen. But I wouldn't expect them to hint at it. They were adamant that Joel was the only playable character in the original game. Then it turned out that the very first character that we play as wasn't even Joel.
 

Nightengale

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Dreams launch or beta date.
Tlou2 gameplay.
GoT gameplay.
DS gameplay.
Wild gameplay and some concrete infos.
Sony Manchester announcement.

Would have been a very good PSX imo.

It's easy to imagine a PSX like the above, but the reality is all of the above are hundreds of man-hours to prepare and the reality is maybe Sony wouldn't be ready by December to have those content in a way that's new, exciting and would draw views.

Take Medievil reveal trailer from last-year for example. That trailer was clearly put together in last minute since it was discovered that trailer had non-game assets involved. If TLOU2 trailer was just "E3 trailer, but played a bit differently" that wouldn't be exciting at all.
 

Electro

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Still no beta date for Dreams.

I dont think there would be enough time to have a different gamellay trailer for DS, TLOU2, and GoT. It just comes off as an illusion that the games are further along than they really are. Plus it would look like padding.

Who knows when we will see Wild again, but i agree it could be at a PSX 2018

I heard something about DS is already in polish phase.

And why no beta date for Dreams ?
Because we know that already before december ?
 

ArmGunar

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Dreams launch or beta date.
Tlou2 gameplay.
GoT gameplay.
DS gameplay.
Wild gameplay and some concrete infos.
Sony Manchester announcement.

Would have been a very good PSX imo.

Keep this for E3 + release date reveals + the last AAA unannounced yet

Just announce a release date for either TLOU2, or GOT, or Death Stranding at TGA + a new trailer of this game
 

Electro

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It's easy to imagine a PSX like the above, but the reality is all of the above are hundreds of man-hours to prepare and the reality is maybe Sony wouldn't be ready by December to have those content in a way that's new, exciting and would draw views.

Take Medievil reveal trailer from last-year for example. That trailer was clearly put together in last minute since it was discovered that trailer had non-game assets involved. If TLOU2 trailer was just "E3 trailer, but played a bit differently" that wouldn't be exciting at all.

Might be true.

I would be happy with some Wild news and Manchester's PSVR game.
But yeah, for many people would that be not enough.
 

SolidSnakex

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But actual participants really liked it. Even without big announcements. It's like a fan meet-up.

It seems like people tied big announcements to PSX, especially after Part II was announced in 2016, so Sony probably felt like they didn't want to do damage to the brand by holding another one without being able to make those announcements. Of course by doing that it means that when/if they announce another PSX the event is going to have huge expectations.
 

Wandu

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I heard something about DS is already in polish phase.

And why no beta date for Dreams ?
Because we know that already before december ?

I glanced at the DS thing earlier in the thread, but it's a game i could see release in 2019.

As for Dreams, they have had lots of streams this year, but no beta date. If PSX 2018 were to be, the best we could hope for would be a beta release date and launch 2019. Its just at that point where I think they showed too much Dreams, so people could be more eager for beta than another trailer.
 

Mugen X

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Time for Joel to make his grand entrance. Obviously he'll be a lot more detailed, but I don't expect him to look dramatically different compared to the last time we saw him. That is unless something has happened to him in terms of being physically scarred by an attack.
Oh ya, I definitely expect Joel to finally appear in the next trailer as well as the infected.
 

Electro

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I glanced at the DS thing earlier in the thread, but it's a game i could see release in 2019.

As for Dreams, they have had lots of streams this year, but no beta date. If PSX 2018 were to be, the best we could hope for would be a beta release date and launch 2019. Its just at that point where I think they showed too much Dreams, so people could be more eager for beta than another trailer.

"Dreams beta available right after the show" and everything would be fine.

They could play Pong for the rest of the show and I would still be satisfied ;)
 

Cyberia

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Speaking of PSVR, i decided to go ahead and pull the trigger. Astro Bot and Tetris finally convinced me to make the plunge :)
 

LiquidSolid

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It was worse than last years PSX.
Yeah, it was brutal. 20 minutes worth of announcements spread across two hours. Not as bad as their Gamescom show this year though.

Annnnnnnd that's why you cancel psx when you ain't got shit to show.
There's more than enough third party and indie games coming to PS4 to easily fill up a 2014/15 style PSX show, Sony just doesn't seem to be interested in hosting that kind of show anymore. AAA or bust.

Personally, I would ill-advise against it. It's not like anything changed from yesterday to today.

Shawn has given his comments on first-party acqusition, and it's the typical 'nothing to announce at this moment.'
It's a pretty silly take anyway. InXile and Obsidian weren't bought to compete with Sony, they were bought to compete with Steam.

An interesting point to note though: Excluding Sony's potential new San Diego studio since it hasn't been announced yet, Sony and Microsoft now both have 12 studios.
 

v_iHuGi

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Yeah, it was brutal. 20 minutes worth of announcements spread across two hours. Not as bad as their Gamescom show this year though.


There's more than enough third party and indie games coming to PS4 to easily fill up a 2014/15 style PSX show, Sony just doesn't seem to be interested in hosting that kind of show anymore. AAA or bust.


It's a pretty silly take anyway. InXile and Obsidian weren't bought to compete with Sony, they were bought to compete with Steam.

An interesting point to note though: Excluding Sony's potential new San Diego studio since it hasn't been announced yet, Sony and Microsoft now both have 12 studios.

Sony has 13 actually.
 

get2sammyb

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Could have still have had it to just get some of the PlayStation fans in 1 place, try new demos and meet the developers. Have a few panels too.

I think they know they can't manage expectations. I'm pretty sure Microsoft said what their thing was going to be and you've still got people disappointed. It's the nature of the beast at this stage, and all three manufacturers are affected by it to some extent.
 

Marano

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Sony has 13 actually.
The thing is microsoft's number is unclear to me, they count global studios publishing which is not a studio per se, also mojang which only does minecraft stuff (so far), on the other hand, playground games is effectively two teams (not just one studio) doing two different genres, located in two different places, so in the end they might have 13 or 14 studios depending on how you count some of this stuff.
 

v_iHuGi

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The thing is microsoft's number is unclear to me, they count global studios publishing which is not a studio per se, also mojang which only does minecraft stuff (so far), on the other hand, playground games is effectively two teams (not just one studio) doing two different genres, located in two different places, so in the end they might have 13 or 14 studios depending on how you count some of this stuff.

Sony also has more than one team per studio but it's only one studio.

Guerrilla per example is getting to over 400 people, 400 people you can make 3 teams, Naughty Dog should be in 500 these days aswell, Bend is expanding too.

They are still 1 studio only each.
 

Zukkoyaki

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I've said it before, I think Sony could have done basically a PlayStation Direct in the PSX slot providing a nice look at the 2019 line-up.

- MLB 19 cover reveal + release date
- Days Gone footage
- Saved the MediEvil trailer for this show
- PlayLink montage (Chimparty, Erica, etc.)
- PSVR montage (Blood & Truth, Everybody's Golf, etc.)
- Concrete Genie footage and release window
- Dreams beta drop
- Maybe drop a TLOU2 teaser showing Joel for the first time

Short, sweet, 100% first party.
 
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