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where the fuck is a new game starring KOS-MOS
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I wouldn't let it get to you.
IIRC on gaf whenever Xenosaga threads popped up there was a vocal bunch that would do their best to shit on the games and people who like them so seeing something similar here isn't exactly a surprise.
Overall the series is fondly remembered. Except for maybe the second game.
Bolded is contender for worst sentence on this website.
Aigis was a robot created by the Kirijo Group to destroy Shadows and explore Tartarus. She was able to postpone the coming of Nyx by locking Ryoji (Nyx Avatar) into the protagonist.
You could probably change the scenario in a way that makes Aigis unnecessary, but the way it's written makes Aigis essential for the link between Ryoji, Nyx, and the protagonist. That makes the Tarot theming work, of Fool (0) to Death (13), and it makes Ryoji a sympathetic character and segues into the finale when Ryoji intimately tells you that the world only has a few moths left, and that he wants to bargain with you to reduce the suffering.
In other words, the way Persona 3 is structured makes Aigis important because she established a different bond between characters that is the crux of the last part of the game, and is foreshadowed from the beginning.
Aigis is a popular character because she has a nice character arc, is quirky, cute, and since she's a robot, she's novel in a game about human relationships. She's a useful party member (she's the only one who gets Marakukaja/Matarukaja/Masukukaja), and the forced romance earns some brownie points for a lot of people.
Her arc is based around her regret of having sealed Ryoji in the protagonist. Since she's specialized for the purpose of destroying any and all Shadows, the fact that she is incapable of truly defeating Ryoji is devastating, because that is her one and only purpose. It's an interesting take on the feelings of inadequacy, told through the lens of someone who was given only one reason to "live" and has to find out what to do when that's not an option. So she's a character about dealing with life not going your way, which is important in a game about how fickle life is.
Her best moment in the main story is probably the anime cutscene where she saves the crucified team and kills Ikutsuki, but her strengths aren't really told through moments, it's through her presence that she builds over time. Her shining moment is in the Answer, though.
I want to say Aigis is head and shoulders above Kos-Mos as a character, and is much more interesting than Kos-Mos, but I haven't played or watched Xenosaga so I can't really say for sure. I know I like Aigis a whole lot more, and I think I probably would after playing Xenosaga. Aigis also has no bad designs, and I think I've seen more designs of Kos-Mos that I didn't like than ones I did.
I find it pretty hilarious, honestly. The GAF tradition of overreacting to anything even slightly "anime" lives on.
In my eyes, Tetsuya Takahashi and Soraya Saga illustrated KOS-MOS' character well enough that it feels like a bit of a disservice to dismiss her with a lazy "lol weebshit"-esque response, but whatever.
There is something really primally strange about calling out Persona for being about waifus, and saying citing Xenosaga's character dynamic as what makes it good, when characters and character dynamics are the thing Persona is best at.
I agree, Persona 2 has pretty great character dynamic and characters, way better than Xenosaga.
But Persona 2 is better than Xenosaga, story and characters wise.
you know that the post's undertone was to insinuate that 3, 4, and 5 are weaker than xenosaga and that only 2 is good, which is false
Whenever Bamco takes a break on making subpar Tales of... games.
But seriously, I'd love for a hd collection of the trilogy, never did get past xenosaga 2.
But seriously, I'd love for a hd collection of the trilogy, never did get past xenosaga 2.
Well, I would say Xenosaga does have more interesting character dynamics than P3+ due to the (Mostly) adult cast with different backgrounds and the lack of S. Link, yeah.
Overall the series is completely unknown outside of a very small niche of people who spent the time to play through one of the most overindulgent and poorly written RPG series of the PS2 era. The Xenosaga games are terrible. KOS-MOS is barely a definable character beyond the generic cliches her role in the story demands her to display. The kindest thing I can think to say about the series is that the second one was terrible in a very different way from the other two, which is at least unusual.
90s anime was filled to the fucking brim with fanservice
I struggle the absence of Social Links are strictly better, and how adult casts make the character dynamics more interesting. I don't get why people have this weird fixation on how 3-5 are set in high school, as if teenagers aren't capable of complex social or interesting character dynamics.
xenoblade 2 has got you covered OP...with that being said, i can't really say i enjoyed that trilogy despite it on paper being up my alley
Characters don't develop unless you do their S. Link, and even when you do changes aren't reflected into the main story. Their personal lives basically revolve and are held hostage by the MC. It's not so bad in P3 compared to 4 and 5 though.
Female characters also have it even worse since they need to be constantly be available for the MC to waifu. Zzzz.
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Oh, well, that's just how I feel. I can't give you a much better answer than that for the bolded lol. I don't think Persoan 3 is a bad game in any way, it's perfectly okay. But your typical High School setting with a silent protagonist who can romance all the girls as a big selling point, and serviceable writing and story don't really do it for me. But like I said, I don't have anything really negative to say about it.
It's just that I feel Xenosaga (even with it's many flaws) has stronger writing, great cutscene direction, more interesting characters and relationships, setting, etc. But if we're talking just about character designs Persona 3 is fine, nothing negative to say there either, but I really don't like the art style.
But anyway, some of that does sound familiar now, but some of it is still just a huge blank. But I'm still sorry to say I don't think anything about the game was strong enough to leave an impact on me.
That's not really the fault of having social links, that's a result of the designers feeling social links can let them shift focus away from characters and onto other things.
But that also feels kinda reductive because the arcs the characters do go through are usually very strong.
That's a fair opinion, it's just that Persona 3's one of my favorite games ever lol. Well, I think Persona 3 FES and Persona 3 Portable are both great, but putting them together makes the Persona 3 experience one of my absolute favorites. I cannot stress enough how much the female main character and her route fix so many of P3's weak points. It's a shame you have to lose the interactive environment for it though. I'd definitely categorize 3's writing and story as above average, but that's probably very subjective.
But I'll never understand preferring Xenosaga's art style over Persona's.
it was a good 8 hour 3d anime series
The game part... ehhhhhhh
I skipped ep2 and just read up on the plot
Tried to get into Ep3, and despite it being a probably better game I dropped it early on cuz i was burnt out on turn-based RPGs
That said i would be ok with an HD rerelease for those who wanted it
I only played Ep 2 due to PAL so I don't have such a high regard for the series anyway... but why do you even expect another game starring one character from that series?
Or 13 ep 2D anime series.
Or 13 ep 2D anime series.
I'm right there with you OP. If she doesn't end up in Smash Ultimate, it's gonna be a massive shame.
Also yes, give us Xenosaga HD Trilogy Collection, plus a new KOSMOS game.
Also yes, give us Xenosaga HD Trilogy Collection, plus a new KOSMOS game.
The first game sold over one million. The second and third games less from what I can find.
Not sure where you got the idea that the games were only played by a very small niche of people but it doesn't have any basis in truth.
god, you people must be so insecure that you trash anime even if it's not even the damn topic. i honestly feel sad for you guys in the US. we grew up watching anime on local tv here in southeast asia and literally no one (literally) bats an eye when people talk about anime, manga, etc.
Oh, I definitely know how that is. Try being a Xenoblade Chronicles 2 fan lol. Playing as a female character does sound a lot more appealing to me, but I don't see myself checking out more Persona games any time soon.
And I'll never understand how someone can find me attractive. People's wildly different opinions on things always fascinate me.
This fucking thread....
Also chaos is best boy and best character in the series.
Taruranto looking at your avatar are you a Ep 1 chaos fan over 2 & 3?
Also chaos is best boy and best character in the series.
Taruranto looking at your avatar are you a Ep 1 chaos fan over 2 & 3?
I only know of that character through reputation an I dun care for 'em. Kos-mos has the personality of a rock. At best she's an ensemble character. People wanting her as the lead in some kinda slick & stylish action game? Comes off as bananas to me! Thats an extreme genre/character missmatch if I ever saw one!
My thoughts exactly but people will never learn. She's the symbol of Xenosaga and loved by Monolith Soft. People thinking that future characters like Elma, Fiora, and Pyra are all rip offs of KOS-MOS are fucking insane. They aren't.... it's just inspiration. Like jesus wow.
NB seriously are wasting this iconic character's potential.. she can be BIG for them but she is buried deep underground there.
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Ep. III is my favorite game in the series, but I really like his portrait in 1. Plus I had recently finished Ep. 1 again when Era launched, so I put that.
I mean the cameo in Xenoblade 2 tells us they still really care.
Same here in south america. I love how American trash anime but apparently us, non americans, should praise American media even if a lot of it Is trash
Not sure if I chimed in yet but KOS-MOS is like my #1 waifu (or really close to #1). would love to see a game starring her. But I'd settle for a Xenoblade dlc