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Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah. The point of his comment was that otherwise well meaning people can get swept up in hate campaigns, which I find to pretty uncontroversial. But people in this thread are acting like he said "racism isn't real. White candidates only."
How do you go from well meaning to siding with"black people are monkeys"?
 

SaviourMK2

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Oct 25, 2017
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User Banned (Permanent): Racism. Prior history of similar behavior.
"Uncomfortable while not hating"? Not liking dogs? Jesus christ the excuses people come up with to forgive themselves...

It's not edgy, you just have little idea what racism is. As evidenced by your other post.

I was making a comparison and the first thing to mind is someone's fear of dogs. I know someone who loves dogs but is genuinely afraid of them after one bit her a child. Just because you can't comprehend a comparison doesn't mean you need to be a dickhead and build yourself a moral high ground.
 

StrayDog

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Jul 14, 2018
2,605
I think everyone is over thinking the entire statement honestly. You all act like it's IMPOSSIBLE for someone to be uncomfortable while not hating.

rac·ism
/ˈrāˌsizəm/
noun
  1. prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior
prej·u·dice
/ˈprejədəs/
noun
  1. preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's amazing how when Hillary comes out and makes what should be non-controversial statement like, Trump is bad, people angrily tell her to go away and disappear forever. Bernie says shit like this and people are fucking excusing it.
 
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blakeseven

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Apr 9, 2018
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I was making a comparison and the first thing to mind is someone's fear of dogs. I know someone who loves dogs but is genuinely afraid of them after one bit her a child. Just because you can't comprehend a comparison doesn't mean you need to be a dickhead and build yourself a moral high ground.

You honestly need to stop comparing not liking black people in power to not liking dogs. It don't come off great mate.
 

El Bombastico

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Oct 25, 2017
36,027
Amazing how many Bernie Bros are showing their true colors in this thread.

My God, and the old fart wants to run again in 2020. We're fucked...
 

Korigama

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Oct 25, 2017
20,482
Bernie says something stupid, and then someone defends it by comparing it to people being afraid of dogs... Jesus Christ.
 

Glory

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Oct 9, 2018
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A lot of first for them to be getting killed


And we still lost Senate seats.

So here's what you need to come to grips with-

Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Claire McCaskill of Missouri all lost their seats to Republicans who campaigned as Trump allies. Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), is hanging to hopes of a recount turning things around.

What do you tell the racists of Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri, and Florida to get those seats back that hasn't been already said a million times on network television, Twitter, ERA, Huffington Post, etc. Because here's the thing: those seats are gone for the next SIX YEARS. What do you tell them to get their votes in 2020 to win the presidency?

Because quite frankly, progressives don't have the votes ourselves. It was proven that through all our yelling and screaming and protesting and people getting killed in streets of Charlottesville and the bombs sent out to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, etc that there was no blue wave. You're going to have to reach across the aisle and get some racists to come and vote for our agenda. And if all that takes is not to call them racist, is that worth proper health care, proper gun control, etc.

The bottom line is this: If we're going take back the Senate and the Presidency, we're going to need the vote of racists. The 2016 Donald Trump election and the 2018 Senate losses have all proven that much. Otherwise, where are you getting the votes from Slayven?
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
93,025
And we still lost Senate seats.

So here's what you need to come to grips with-

Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Claire McCaskill of Missouri all lost their seats to Republicans who campaigned as Trump allies. Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), is hanging to hopes of a recount turning things around.

What do you tell the racists of Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri, and Florida to get those seats back that hasn't been already said a million times on network television, Twitter, ERA, Huffington Post, etc. Because here's the thing: those seats are gone for the next SIX YEARS. What do you tell them to get their votes in 2020 to win the presidency?

Because quite frankly, progressives don't have the votes ourselves. It was proven that through all our yelling and screaming and protesting and people getting killed in streets of Charlottesville and the bombs sent out to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, etc that there was no blue wave. You're going to have to reach across the aisle and get some racists to come and vote for our agenda. And if all that takes is not to call them racist, is that worth proper health care, proper gun control, etc.

Because the bottom line is this: If we're going take back the Senate and the Presidency, we're going to need the vote of racists. 2016 and 2018 have all proven that much.
Thats never been the issue, and folks need to stop pretending it is. And are you a progressive if you have a hard limit at recognizing black people as human?
 

D i Z

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Oct 25, 2017
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Where X marks the spot.
And we still lost Senate seats.

So here's what you need to come to grips with-

Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Claire McCaskill of Missouri all lost their seats to Republicans who campaigned as Trump allies. Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), is hanging to hopes of a recount turning things around.

What do you tell the racists of Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri, and Florida to get those seats back that hasn't been already said a million times on network television, Twitter, ERA, Huffington Post, etc. Because here's the thing: those seats are gone for the next SIX YEARS. What do you tell them to get their votes in 2020 to win the presidency?

Because quite frankly, progressives don't have the votes ourselves. It was proven that through all our yelling and screaming and protesting and people getting killed in streets of Charlottesville and the bombs sent out to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, etc that there was no blue wave. You're going to have to reach across the aisle and get some racists to come and vote for our agenda. And if all that takes is not to call them racist, is that worth proper health care, proper gun control, etc.

The bottom line is this: If we're going take back the Senate and the Presidency, we're going to need the vote of racists. The 2016 Donald Trump election and the 2018 Senate losses have all proven that much. Otherwise, where are you getting the votes from Slayven?

Get your house in order? The numbers are there to tell who voted for what.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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And we still lost Senate seats.

So here's what you need to come to grips with-

Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Claire McCaskill of Missouri all lost their seats to Republicans who campaigned as Trump allies. Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), is hanging to hopes of a recount turning things around.

What do you tell the racists of Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri, and Florida to get those seats back that hasn't been already said a million times on network television, Twitter, ERA, Huffington Post, etc. Because here's the thing: those seats are gone for the next SIX YEARS. What do you tell them to get their votes in 2020 to win the presidency?

Because quite frankly, progressives don't have the votes ourselves. It was proven that through all our yelling and screaming and protesting and people getting killed in streets of Charlottesville and the bombs sent out to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, etc that there was no blue wave. You're going to have to reach across the aisle and get some racists to come and vote for our agenda. And if all that takes is not to call them racist, is that worth proper health care, proper gun control, etc.

The bottom line is this: If we're going take back the Senate and the Presidency, we're going to need the vote of racists. The 2016 Donald Trump election and the 2018 Senate losses have all proven that much. Otherwise, where are you getting the votes from Slayven?

it's bad politics to call large swaths of the electorate racist (even when it's obviously true), but that doesn't mean doing the opposite is okay
 

Glory

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Banned
Oct 9, 2018
187
Thats never been the issue, and folks need to stop pretending it is.

It's the issue for me and it's the issue for the people defending Bernie on this. Bernie is smart enough to know we need the votes of racist snowflakes. Is it worth it to lose the Senate and Presidency by not coddling some 200,000 racists in the hopes they come around and vote for our progressive agenda? Because that's how many votes we need to secure power.
 

Polaroid_64

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Oct 25, 2017
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And we still lost Senate seats.

So here's what you need to come to grips with-

Sens. Joe Donnelly of Indiana, Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota and Claire McCaskill of Missouri all lost their seats to Republicans who campaigned as Trump allies. Sen. Bill Nelson (D-Fla.), is hanging to hopes of a recount turning things around.

What do you tell the racists of Indiana, North Dakota, Missouri, and Florida to get those seats back that hasn't been already said a million times on network television, Twitter, ERA, Huffington Post, etc. Because here's the thing: those seats are gone for the next SIX YEARS. What do you tell them to get their votes in 2020 to win the presidency?

Because quite frankly, progressives don't have the votes ourselves. It was proven that through all our yelling and screaming and protesting and people getting killed in streets of Charlottesville and the bombs sent out to Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, etc that there was no blue wave. You're going to have to reach across the aisle and get some racists to come and vote for our agenda. And if all that takes is not to call them racist, is that worth proper health care, proper gun control, etc.

Because the bottom line is this: If we're going take back the Senate and the Presidency, we're going to need the vote of racists. The 2016 Donald Trump election and the 2018 Senate losses have all proven that much.

Doesn't work for me. I don't see minorities selling my rights (as a white male) down the river to get something. I'm not willing to do that to them.
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
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Oct 25, 2017
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It's the issue for me and it's the issue for the people defending Bernie on this. Bernie is smart enough to know we need the votes of racist snowflakes. Is it worth it to lose the Senate and Presidency by not coddling some 200,000 racists in the hopes they come around and vote for our progressive agenda? Because that's how many votes we need to secure power.
So minorities should shut up and suffer for the good of the country? That worked out well in 1776 for us