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ratcliffja

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Oct 28, 2017
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But how many for kart racing?
 

Psittacus

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Oct 27, 2017
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So humans really suck ass unless they're force sensitive?

Then why is first order so human centric?
In the new Canon humans are so widespread because they're more colonial than other species. Some of the alien species do not like it.
"Some people would consider this a skill. Humans adapt. Got mountains? Build ridgecrawlers. Too much water? Build scub-subs. An ice planet? Use radiated igurts. People adapt."
"Yes, but should they? Either humans adapt, or they force the planet to adapt to them. This is not normal."
 

Keldroc

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Oct 27, 2017
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Old non canon 'Into the Great Unknown' placed the events post episode RoTJ being around 1810 as an Earth date.

There were some folk that extrapolated the whole time line from this as a fun experiment.

It's non canon so don't anyone get upset.

I remember that, but it was kind of a nonsense endeavor considering the hyperspace anomaly that caused the Falcon to end up near Earth could easily have warped time as well as space.

"A long time ago" paired with astronomical distance implies tens of thousands of years ago at minimum, IMO.
 

Nikus

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,370
"I am C-3PO, human-cyborg relations."

It's a long time ago.

But that almost did happen.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_Exodus

As Family Guy said, a long time ago but somehow still in the future.
Dear god, what a luck that his story didnt happened.

Jesus, that would have been the maybe-ancestor of Luke Skywalker:
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"The Human Exodus begins on Earth, in the 25th century. The three main characters—computer hacker Dale Hender, space pilot Antonia Corelli, and her lover Paxton Solo—are leaders of an underground movement resisting the computers who have taken control of Earth's society.
[...]
Their long journey is interrupted when they fall through a "cosmic whirlpool" leading to another solar system in another galaxy. To their great surprise, the wormhole is not only a bridge to another galaxy, but to another time, billions of years in the past
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As the slaves are taken away, Paxton Solo and Dale Hender look back on what could have been their new home. To honor Antonia Corelli, who was killed by the Rodians, they agree that the planet should be named Corellia. They also vow that one day Humanity will return to Corellia, and build a free society there."

Me: the origin of Han's name in Solo was pretty stupid.
Robert J. Sawyer: hold my beer
 

GAMEPROFF

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Oct 26, 2017
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"The Human Exodus begins on Earth, in the 25th century. The three main characters—computer hacker Dale Hender, space pilot Antonia Corelli, and her lover Paxton Solo—are leaders of an underground movement resisting the computers who have taken control of Earth's society.
[...]
Their long journey is interrupted when they fall through a "cosmic whirlpool" leading to another solar system in another galaxy. To their great surprise, the wormhole is not only a bridge to another galaxy, but to another time, billions of years in the past
[...]
As the slaves are taken away, Paxton Solo and Dale Hender look back on what could have been their new home. To honor Antonia Corelli, who was killed by the Rodians, they agree that the planet should be named Corellia. They also vow that one day Humanity will return to Corellia, and build a free society there."

Me: the origin of Han's name in Solo was pretty stupid.
Robert J. Sawyer: hold my beer
And the main character from American Grafiti is the ancestor of Luke Skywalker!!!
 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
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Force Sensitive also doesn't necessarily mean you could be a Jedi. There are lots of force sensitives throughout the galaxy. Hell, it's always been implied that Han Solo was force sensitive and that his "bad feelings" were the manifestation of that.

It's always been more of an 'in tune with their surroundings' type thing that COULD mean they could be trained to become Jedi. Remember in episode one, they originally denied Anakin, and likely have done so with millions of others for one reason or another.
 

Kelsdesu

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Oct 25, 2017
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I remember that, but it was kind of a nonsense endeavor considering the hyperspace anomaly that caused the Falcon to end up near Earth could easily have warped time as well as space.

"A long time ago" paired with astronomical distance implies tens of thousands of years ago at minimum, IMO.


So we are not going by the Kardashev scale?
 

m0therzer0

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Nov 19, 2017
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Then why is first order so human centric?
I think they're just trying to be cost effective. Could you imagine running an operation of that size and needing to buy armor and uniforms for hundreds of different species? Wookies, Ewoks, whatever that Satan-looking mother fucker from the Cantina was? It's a logistical nightmare!
 

Birdie

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Oct 26, 2017
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It takes Jedi-like reflexes to be a Jizz musician too. Can any Jizz musician be a Jedi or Sith?
 

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
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Then why is first order so human centric?

Humans were the elites of the Imperial military and bureaucracy. While the Empire did not have an official speciesist/humanocentric policy (in the Servants of the Empire series, the main character's father notes that speciesism is looked down on in the Core Worlds and is seen as more of a country bunpkin Outer Rim thing), it was definitely unofficially speciesist. There are multiple reasons for this.

First, humans originated from the Core and spread outward, colonizing various worlds and often coming into conflict with alien natives (take Naboo, for example). So there's a cultural unity among humans that for most of galactic history would have given them an Us vs Them mentality. By the time of the Republic, they're supposed to be over that, but old habits linger, especially among human aristocrats and especially when humans are economically dominant. They went out from the Core and exploited the materials of the Mid and Outer Rim worlds.

Second, the Clone Wars were largely seen as a struggle between the Core/human center and the Rim/alien periphery. Even though there were humans and aliens on both sides, the Separatist leadership (minus Dooku) was entirely alien while the Republic represented a continuation of "civilized culture". The Clonetroopers were also all humans which had a propaganda effect.

So when the Empire came to power, it was an entrenchment of humanocentrism that unofficially took hold. The Empire was too diverse to actually purge all the aliens and Palpatine didn't really care - he hated everyone equally - but occasionally stirring up xenophobia among the largest population was a good way to shore up support.

The First Order is formed by the most reactionary, radical, and obstinate Imperial diehards who refused to give in after Jakku and fled to the Unknown Regions. It's not surprising that they embody the worst elements of the Empire. What's more surprising is that nobody's yet seemed to indicate disgust with being ruled by Snoke.
 
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BladeoftheImmortal
Oct 27, 2017
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Gotcha.

One more question totally unrelated.

Are mandalorians genetically different than humans at all? Or just a colony of humans that decided they're a different race?