Even if we don't get impeachment and removal, evidence of serious wrongdoing and scandals can only help us in 2020.
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Trump: If Dems investigate us at the House level, then we will investigate them at the Senate level
- Thread starter GK86
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Even if we don't get impeachment and removal, evidence of serious wrongdoing and scandals can only help us in 2020.
Yes, it will. It muddies the waters. To the average citizen who's not deeply into this stuff, all they see is "Democrats investigate Republicans; Republicans investigate Democrats" and assume it's just political games on both sides. The actual results, merit, and validity of any given investigation doesn't matter because that shit requires nuance and investigation, while the media just reports the "he said, she said."
There is also that.
I just think too many dems and progressives have hung all of their hopes of somehow magically getting rid of Trump via an investigation into his past.
The truth is that America has a lot of hateful and backwards people living in it. Something that was really easy to ignore or dismiss over the past decade, but eventually you have to accept that this is going to be a struggle with or without Trump.
And let me say that I absolutely despise that fat piece of shit and want all the bad things in the world to happen to him (preferably at the same time). But the people who support him are still going to be here 2-6 years from now. And its those people we have to find a way to defeat somehow more than Trump.
'If democrats are going to waste tax money, we also will tax money' sure is a riveting message to your constituents.
I think we can trust Democrats to bungle the investigation unless they treat "process" as the sham it is to contain and defile Trump in the public sphere. I'm afraid they will prefer being proper and dignified and useless. It can no longer matter if there's actually anything in the documents they can get on Trump. Nobody cares if he cheated to pocket a couple of millions or secure his station. You twist it until people will want to see every innocuous smile as murder, every friendly handshake as rape.
Send out a tweet? Yes. He however can not order the Senate to do anything, its a different branch of the government.
The senate doesnt direct investigations, so no. Shockingly, this is Trump saying something false or impossible.
You can be a murderer, a spy, even commit perjury and the government won't care, but the moment you dodge taxes they'll be on you faster than a vulture on a corpse.
Yep. I've seen it in action. People who are only paying attention at a surface level just see it as politics as usual. This is why so many people are still in the "both sides" camp.
Chipping and digging away at his admin through corruption scandals is damaging, Senate or no Senate.
Except the investigations into the 2016 elections and Trump's cabinet have led to tangible indictments and embarrassing resignations, while Trump's congressional stooges only managed to get a couple of FBI agents to step down for leaking or fucking.
Well, he can ask the FBI to investigate leaking, and he can ask Mitch to direct the senate to investigate. Mitch does whatever Trump says, so, yes, he can.
The man is thick as pigshit, so it's obvious that all these tactics are being fed to him from an outside source... Now, who could have spent some time studying the various plays he could make? I couldn't possibly speculateski,
I imagine everyone not in the Trump family would suffer from this, but part of the problem is Trump put his family in charge of a lot of stuff.
The 'investigation' has been going on already. The republicans are not pulling any punches regardless of what the democrats do in the house.
This is literally the answer a 5 year old gives you when you tell him he is grounded.
"No, YOU are grounded!!"
"No, YOU are grounded!!"
I think you're being to kind to the morons. First you have to account for them not only ignoring the huge amount the GOP have spent on Hillary investigations, but also thinking Hillary is still a criminal despite them coming up with nothing. Then you need to consider the Dems are attacking the infallible GOP first on made up charges, making the Dems the bad guys and leaving the Republicans no choice but to respond.
Normal person accused of murder:
"What???? I didn't kill anyone!!! Check my prints! Check my DNA! Check my alibi! Check my history!
I DIDNT KILL ANYONE!!'
Trump accused of murder:
"If you tell anyone about my murder victims I'll tell them about yours!!!!!!!"
"What???? I didn't kill anyone!!! Check my prints! Check my DNA! Check my alibi! Check my history!
I DIDNT KILL ANYONE!!'
Trump accused of murder:
"If you tell anyone about my murder victims I'll tell them about yours!!!!!!!"
I know he's probably happy because echo chambers and gaining in the senate but the dude is about to be kicked in the nuts when the House doesn't actually have his back.
Cross-posting
Manu Raju
✔@mkraju
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1060154271310757888
Among House D probes:
- Immigration/family separation
- Whether Trump violated emoluments
- whether WH improperly used security clearances
- why Trump admin not defending ACA in court
- areas not explored by Mueller, including potential money launderinghttps://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/investigations-house-democrats/index.html …
4:57 AM - Nov 7, 2018
Womp womp
Manu Raju
✔@mkraju
https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1060154271310757888
Among House D probes:
- Immigration/family separation
- Whether Trump violated emoluments
- whether WH improperly used security clearances
- why Trump admin not defending ACA in court
- areas not explored by Mueller, including potential money launderinghttps://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/investigations-house-democrats/index.html …
4:57 AM - Nov 7, 2018
Womp womp
