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Deleted member 29676

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I haven't been able to keep up with this tonight. I come into this thread and the tone seems... negative. Anyone got a summary? How many house seats does it look like we're picking up?

Chance of dems winning the house was placed around 80% this morning. As of now it is "Chance Democrats win control (57.0%)" and dropping. Republicans are winning the close races.
 

Lump

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Oct 25, 2017
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Who is the media? CNN and MSNBC have both called out the caravan as being the bullshit it is. All the time.

Fox News is Fox News and will never change.

Talking about the caravan, even calling it bullshit, is giving attention to the caravan.

Putting up that racist commercial about the caravan, then talking about how outlets thought it was too racist so they took it down - yep, that's talk about the caravan. Racists look at that commercial and go "yeah, it was probably right though." And caravan talk gets the ratings.

Right now, this very moment, we're talking about the caravan.

How many news outlets talked about the far right domestic terror attack on the synagogue as much as the caravan after the racist commercial came out? Got to go back to talking about that caravan, that's what people want to hear about because Trump. Even if the news is bullshit, and we're calling it out as bullshit, hey look, we're talking about the caravan.

This is attention span in 2016-and-beyond America. This is how Trump wins. Trump makes it about Trump, and his supporters can't get enough - and his detractors just make sure there is more and more talk about Trump.

The only way for the Trump spell to break is actual economic anxiety - the economy face planting itself due to terrible tariffs and inevitable bubbles from rampant deregulation. And even then, it'll probably be a sliver of support lost. Maybe if the economy tanks enough by 2020, he'll be down a few percentage points from 39% to 35% approval. The rest will stick with Trump because why not, he speaks his mind and that's what his supporters love.

Wait, breaking news, this just in, a media outlet just reached out for more quotes about the caravan.
 

chubigans

Vertigo Gaming Inc.
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Oct 25, 2017
2,560
All this panic I'm seeing here confuses me.

Isn't this going pretty much according to realistic expectations? Beto over Cruz was always a long shot, D Senate was always a pipe dream with D's almost completely on the defense there, House will likely go D.

?

Maybe building up unrealistic hopes in a bubble isn't all that healthy.
It is. I don't know why people are freaking out.
 

KuroNeeko

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,187
Osaka
Perhaps, but if Gillum wins at least I have something to take pride in besides the tourism (which has nothing to do with me) and cultural diversity of South Florida.

This state has a massive identity crisis because it's uniquely near the caribbean and his home to a bunch of old white racists.

Sucks, because I keep on hoping FL is what *I* remember it to be. I spent the first half of my life there in Broward and Seminole county, before going to school in Tally. My experience has almost always been blue.

I used to joke to everyone that Florida is just a few pockets of civilization surrounded by redneck country, but seeing this electoral map is just depressing.
 

Tebunker

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Oct 25, 2017
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And people here are mainly flipping out over Florida, when Pennsylvania and Virginia and other races are going blue, it is only 9pm Eastern, it looks like the House is going to split, Senate was always going to stay Red sadly.
 

LycanXIII

The Fallen
Oct 26, 2017
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As a citizen of Lexington, the majority of the rest of Kentucky is a bunch a self hating hicks.
 

Kthulhu

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,670
Ok see this? This right here? Can we please stop lying to ourselves about some mythical day when all the boomers drop dead and we enter a Blue Utopia?


THERE ARE A WHOLE NEW GENERATION OF YOUNG REPUBLICANS, ALT-RIGHT CRAZIES, AND BIGOTS VOTING. ITS IS NOT THE 65 Y/O RETIRE YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT. IT'S THE 25 Y/O GAMERGATER.

Yeah, but there's less of them overall.
 

bionic77

Member
Oct 25, 2017
30,894
Why are people so disappointed?

This country is extremely divided and there are just too many shitty people for this to be easy.

The Senate was a dream but if the Dems pick up the House (likely but lets wait and see) and a few state governments I will consider that a win.
 

Coyote Starrk

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Oct 30, 2017
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I don't think there's a message to take away with here. If voter turnout is this high from both sides of the spectrum and the Republicans continue to win, maybe the people of this country identify more with them and that's just how it is.
If the majority of the country identifies more with racists and degenerates then the US no longer deserves to be a world leader.
 

Xe4

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Oct 25, 2017
10,295
YYAAAAYYYYY Heinrich! Wasn't a close race in the slightest, I know, but I think he's such a cool dude (as my senator).
 

Spinluck

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Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,467
Chicago
You literally cannot counteract the aging white 60+ vote dominating a state like Florida with youth turnout. Being nice to them doesn't fucking solve anything.

Do you live here, because it is 1000% on point.

To all my friends that I had to keep nagging to vote (some did, others ultimately decided they are above politics and that it doesn't directly affect them or their future family/people/etc), I do not want to here shit from them if they complain about policy the next 2-4 years.
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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O'Rourke could possibly have a big future because he is a charismatic, appealing, moderate, but the others, nah. No chance at spearheading a national victory - the GOP keeps winning and that suggests that huge swathes of America wants a right-wing government. The Democrats need to offer people who can soften that sort of thing but fundamentally offer something that isn't scary to the swing voters who keep electing these Republicans.

Going farther right or trying to replicate the sleazier aspects of the Republican party are not what this country needs out of the democrats. You lay down with dogs, you get fleas. I refuse to accept or encourage any outcome that involves turning into the thing we're fighting. Avenatti has nothing to offer outside of his own sleaziness.

There are no such things as swing voters anymore. Just people who are smart enough to not come straight out with their racism and general ignorance. Anyone on the fence at this point is an enemy of progress.