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Banned
Mar 14, 2018
756
I'm getting a bad feeling that McCaskill might lose here in MO. If you live in this state, please be sure to vote. It matters.
 

Durden

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
12,511
Voted last week down here in GA. It would be a little miracle if we're able to go blue, but here's to hoping. Atlanta, which is really progressive, is stronger than ever these days, so we'll see.
 

The Albatross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
39,017
Anyone know about the Amendment 2 ballot measure for West Virginia? To let the legislature control the judiciary budget? I can't tell if that's a good thing or a bad thing or what. Not sure which way to vote.

Reading the language ... I'd imagine that a 'Yes' vote here would be a conservative initiative, while a 'No' vote would be leaving it as it is.

Generally, in Republican leaning states like West Virginia is, conservatives have attacked judiciaries (the courts) and seen them as impediments to implementing laws that might break the state constitution or they see the courts as being "Activist" and promoting ideas that the public wouldn't support. For instance, in my state of Massachusetts, the state judiciary famously legalized gay marriage about 20 years ago through an act of the courts. Conservatives in Mass (which there aren't very many, but they do exist) argued for years that it's wrong for the courts to be "Activist" and effectively "make laws from the bench" ("Legislating from the bench"), but this was always a pretense for being against gay marriage. If Conservatives had any control of the legislature in Massachusetts, then I could see them want to push a referendum that gave state legislators budget control of the courts which would limit the number of court appointments and staff, to pinch the courts.

This initiative seems to give more budget control to the legislature of your state. If you're deciding how to vote, I'd consider looking at the breakdown of your state legislature. If it's heavily one party or another (which I... kinda assume it's heavily R, though I might be wrong), then ask yourself whether you want your legislature to have more control over another branch of government. Also consider "why would someone want to control the budget of the judiciary... is the judiciary budget out of control or have run-away spending...?" The answer is ... probably not.

My impulse on referendum issues like this is to "leave them alone" when I'm genuinely undecided on the outcome of something, even when I've read it, which is to say ... I usually vote No. If one group wants to change the state constitution or the balance of power in my state and I don't really know what the outcome would be, and I'm confused by the language and can't figure out the outcome, my implicit reaction is to be against it. Voting 'no' means that, hay, in the future it could come up again or the state legislature could pick it up and put some skin in the game by picking a side. Voting 'yes' means it's going to be implemented.
 

Brinbe

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
58,292
Terana
Not to get too far ahead of ourselves, but keeping seats like Donnelly's matter even more if we don't get control of the the Senate, which is a real possibility, because 2020 will be just as close. And every seat matters. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/senate-update-how-this-years-race-sets-up-2020/

But according to the model, there's a very real chance that the Senate's balance of power will simply stay the same: 51 Republicans, 49 Democrats. If that happens (our model gives it a 17.7 percent chance as of 9 a.m.), Democrats would need to hold on to Alabama and win both Maine and Colorado — or else pick up a seat in one of the four closest Republican-leaning states.For the rest of this article, I'm going to focus on scenarios that get Democrats to 51 seats in the Senate instead of just 50 plus the vice presidency; it's just worth bearing in mind that Democrats could win one less seat than I mention in each paragraph, as long as they win the vice presidency.


But our forecast also gives Republicans a 17.3 percent chance to net one seat and secure a 52-48 majority. In this scenario, maybe Republicans win with Missouri Attorney General Josh Hawley in that state (a 2 in 5 chance) in addition to Kevin Cramer in North Dakota, while Democrats win with Sinema in Arizona. That would be a big win for the GOP because it would force Democrats to hold Alabama, win both Maine and Colorado, and pick up a Senate seat in a red state in 2020 to gain a majority. Based on states' partisan leans,The average difference between how a state or district votes and how the country votes overall. In our new and improved partisan lean formula, 2016 presidential election results are weighted 50 percent, 2012 presidential election results are weighted 25 percent and results from elections for the state legislature are weighted 25 percent.

their easiest target would be Sen. Thom Tillis in North Carolina, which is 5 points more Republican-leaning than the nation as a whole. But we're starting to get into scenarios where a relatively neutral political environment in 2020 would be enough for Republicans to easily keep the Senate that year.

Let's say Republicans net two seats in 2018 — something our model assigns a 13.8 percent chance of happening. (For example, if the GOP holds on to Arizona while picking up North Dakota and Missouri.) Then in 2020 Democrats would need to hold on to all of their current seats (including Alabama) and flip four Republican seats. Their most plausible targets would be Collins, Gardner, Tillis and Sen. Joni Ernst in Iowa. Iowa is about as red as North Carolina, so Ernst wouldn't necessarily be a tougher target than Tillis, but Democrats couldn't afford to lose even one of those races, so the odds would be stacked against them.
 

Akabeko

Member
Oct 27, 2017
817
When do the results come in? I remember years ago when elections results took a really long time in the US.

Results start coming in after the polls close which varies by state. I think some close as early as 6 p.m. Prior to Bush-Gore you used to get a lot more info throughout the day due to reporting on exit polls, but I think most reputable outlets stopped doing that because the consensus was that it could influence the election.
 

Pomerlaw

Erarboreal
Banned
Feb 25, 2018
8,536
My kids were hype as hell to help us vote.

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They are so cute. Congrats.
 

OrdinaryPrime

Self-requested ban
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
11,042
Donnelly is really only a Democrat in name not in policy and often goes against the party when it comes to voting. Not to sound like a jerk but If you don't know much about the candidate please refrain from answering, please.

Here are the two current Indiana senators:

Todd Young votes with Trump, 93.7% of the time.
Joe Donnelly votes with Trump, 53.8% of the time.

Here's stuff about Braun, the opposing candidate.

Braun has supported President Trump's immigration policies and proposals, such as a border wall and a crackdown on sanctuary cities.[16] Braun has said, "building the wall must be the first step to any solution" on illegal immigration.[15] Braun opposes a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as minors (so-called DREAMers).[16] In February 2018, the Braun campaign ran an ad about a deadly car crash involving an undocumented immigrant, arguing that the accident would not have happened if the undocumened immigrant had not been in the United States. The wife of one of the fatalities described the ad as "disgusting". The Braun campaign subsequently pulled the ad.[16]

Braun supported the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, the Republican Party's tax reform bill.[15] Braun said the tax reform bill was "revenue-neutral"; the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office estimated that the bill would increase U.S. debt.[15] Braun has called for cuts to the U.S. budget, saying that the U.S. "has a spending problem."[15]

In 2018, Braun supported President Trump's trade and tariff policies, saying that it has "yielded phenomenal results."[15][17] Previously, Braun supported free trade policies.[17]

Braun opposes abortion.[15] Asked for his view on the legalization of same-sex marriage, Braun said, "I believe in traditional marriage."[15][18] Braun fought to keep marriage defined as "between a man and a woman" in the Indiana Republican Party platform.[18] In the Indiana state legislature, Braun supported the Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act and opposed amendments to the bill that would have banned discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity.[18]

You really want to play this game?
 

Aaron D.

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,318
I'm so bummed that my voting district VA-8 (Falls Church, Arlington, Alexandria) is literally on the boarder with Barbara Comstock's VA-10, so I can't vote her out personally.

She's a shameless phony and a fraud.

After voting 98% with Republicans she had the audacity to run local campaign ads claiming she was "INDEPENDENT THINKER" in BIG BOLD letters. 'Cause you know, even affiliating with the Republican party is so damn toxic that you can't associate your name with them.

Sorry Babs, you don't get to gleefully throw gas on the GOP dumpster fire only to walk it back the moment you realize actions have consequences. You're not Independent. You're a flagrant GOP bootlicker.

God I can't wait to see her go down.
 

Mbolibombo

Member
Oct 29, 2017
7,043
So what exactly is the vote for today?

Congress, house, senate? What's the most important to win?
How is the outlook?

Is there some sort of coverage to follow the election on a good way
 

Shopolic

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
6,859
Last time US voted for Trump (I know Clinton votes were higher, but that electoral things and...) and it affected normal people lives in Iran only a year later. I hope for good things this time. :(
 

The Albatross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
39,017
When do the results come in? I remember years ago when elections results took a really long time in the US.

By 7PM EST you'll start to see results coming in for east coast states, 8PM for some of them, and then progressively later throughout the country. The makeup of the House should be fairly well known by about 10PM tonight. The senate will likely stay the way it is, +/- one seat for Republicans, but if there are substantial gains by either party we'll know overnight / tomorrow morning.

Election results still usually take till the following morning to really confirm, but today we just have more people inferring results based on early information.
 

legacyzero

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,252
Be sure to check your registrations. My wife and I relocated to Nebraska in April, both got our new licenses and register to vote at the same time. Hers did not go through

GODDMMIT DMV
 

RepairmanJack

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,138
Just voted D across the board. Though it's in a county of Ohio where 2016 was something like 65% R to 25% D. Still had to vote though.
 

zma1013

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,685
Reading the language ... I'd imagine that a 'Yes' vote here would be a conservative initiative, while a 'No' vote would be leaving it as it is.

Generally, in Republican leaning states like West Virginia is, conservatives have attacked judiciaries (the courts) and seen them as impediments to implementing laws that might break the state constitution or they see the courts as being "Activist" and promoting ideas that the public wouldn't support. For instance, in my state of Massachusetts, the state judiciary famously legalized gay marriage about 20 years ago through an act of the courts. Conservatives in Mass (which there aren't very many, but they do exist) argued for years that it's wrong for the courts to be "Activist" and effectively "make laws from the bench" ("Legislating from the bench"), but this was always a pretense for being against gay marriage. If Conservatives had any control of the legislature in Massachusetts, then I could see them want to push a referendum that gave state legislators budget control of the courts which would limit the number of court appointments and staff, to pinch the courts.

This initiative seems to give more budget control to the legislature of your state. If you're deciding how to vote, I'd consider looking at the breakdown of your state legislature. If it's heavily one party or another (which I... kinda assume it's heavily R, though I might be wrong), then ask yourself whether you want your legislature to have more control over another branch of government. Also consider "why would someone want to control the budget of the judiciary... is the judiciary budget out of control or have run-away spending...?" The answer is ... probably not.

My impulse on referendum issues like this is to "leave them alone" when I'm genuinely undecided on the outcome of something, even when I've read it, which is to say ... I usually vote No. If one group wants to change the state constitution or the balance of power in my state and I don't really know what the outcome would be, and I'm confused by the language and can't figure out the outcome, my implicit reaction is to be against it. Voting 'no' means that, hay, in the future it could come up again or the state legislature could pick it up and put some skin in the game by picking a side. Voting 'yes' means it's going to be implemented.

Thanks for the advice. I may end up doing that then, which is to just leave it as is because I just don't know what it would do.