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Pein

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Oct 25, 2017
8,219
NYC
My forehead has been breaking out like crazy lately, like this shit is fucking me up. I use biore charcoal cleanser then Use benzoyl peroxide and I still got 2 big ass pimples
 

catberry

Member
Oct 31, 2017
187
London
My forehead has been breaking out like crazy lately, like this shit is fucking me up. I use biore charcoal cleanser then Use benzoyl peroxide and I still got 2 big ass pimples

Do you have dry skin? Sounds like seasonal lack of moisture to me. benozyl peroxide is VERY drying, you need to moisturise your skin after.
 

catberry

Member
Oct 31, 2017
187
London
Nah my skin is super oily, but I will try moisturizing after I wash with the benzoyl, any good moisturizer? I have the neutrogena men's daily

I've heard really great things about the Etude House Moistfull Collagen Water Jelly Cream (a mouthful, I know) for oily and sensitive skin. Also what cleanser are you using? If you're using just the biore that might be the issue. I mean, both of the things you're using are quite harsh to the skin. Get either Banila Co Clean it Zero (it is a bit pricey but the product is a lot, it lasts for a long time) or any of the Hada Labo foam cleansers, they're on amazon. I say use the biore every 2-3 days and the other one daily. Also try cleansing in the morning too if you aren't. Some people need just a wash in the morning, but for oily skin I've found it's better if you cleanse twice a day.

Also, as I mentioned before, I think vitamin C serums are a god sent when it comes to acne and redness. My top pick would be the Wishtrend Pure Vit C serum, it's also on amazon.
 

Urban Scholar

Member
Oct 30, 2017
5,603
Florida
Oh man I needed this thread. I've noticed my skin has gotten irritated when it comes to shaving.

I don't have razor bumps, I switch to electric. But I want a smooth face you know? Any general tips?
 

Lady Murasaki

Scary Shiny Glasses
Member
Oct 25, 2017
680
Eye cream! I actually just usually slap my cream under the eyes as well, my recent obsession is the Beauty of Joseon Dynasty cream. It makes your skin feel like baby bottoms, but if I had to go eye specific it's the Skinfood Salmon cream. I don't have dark circles, but I've seen it do wonders for those.



EDIT: For the record, I really don't think silicones are nearly as bad for you as people make it out to be.

Thank you so much for the recommendations! I heard that SK-II wasn't that anti aging panacea that so many skin care gurus swear by. I confess that after having an habit of reading the ingredients list I got so much more skeptical about most products. But still vulnerable to some advertising! Those gorgeous pictures of Joseon ladies in the cream ads made my eyes shine! It seems so good. It is already on my wishlist.

About silicones, I am curious - don't you think they are hiding the real deal? I always thought they worked as some sort of camouflage with little real effect. To be honest I don't mind them very much - unlike the mineral oil which I really avoid.
 

BlueBadger

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Oct 26, 2017
936
Do y'all recommend putting a moisturizer on top of a serum before bed, or is the serum itself sufficient?
 

BAD

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,565
USA
Do y'all recommend putting a moisturizer on top of a serum before bed, or is the serum itself sufficient?
Kind of depends on your skin. Dryer skin will want more than a targeted serum might be giving, but those with more oily or combo skin won't need the layer of moisture beyond the serum it absorbs
 

BlueBadger

Member
Oct 26, 2017
936
Kind of depends on your skin. Dryer skin will want more than a targeted serum might be giving, but those with more oily or combo skin won't need the layer of moisture beyond the serum it absorbs
Gotcha. Thanks. I definitely fall into the combo skin group. I'm just trying to find myself a good nighttime serum to use. Dr Carver's isn't available in Canada, and apparently you need to be careful with which serum you choose?
 

Lucario

Member
Oct 26, 2017
93
gay
I can immediately think of three options, but this is not exhaustive:
1. Paula's Choice - RESIST Skin Revealing Body Lotion with 10% AHA (US $28, 7oz, pH 3.5-3.9)
2. Makeup Artist's Choice (MUAC) - Glycolic Body Lotion (US $19, 8oz, pH 2.6, 15% AHA)
3. MUAC - AHA Hand and Body Lotion (US $25, 8oz, pH 2.5, ~18% AHA)

MUAC products can be great, but definitely ease into them by patch testing and giving your skin time to adjust. They also makes an AHA body wash worth checking out. I believe Alpha Hydrox also made a low-pH AHA body lotion at one point, but I think it has since been discontinued. Another idea you might want to consider is purchasing something like the Glycolic Acid 7% Toning Solution by The Ordinary (a lovely 240ml of product for ~$8, one of my favorite products) to decant into a spray bottle for use as a body mist. Also, keep in mind that AHAs are photosensitizing and proper suncare is important (e.g. apply sunscreen to exposed skin, only apply AHA at night, etc.). Good luck! I hope you are able to find something that works well for you.
Huuuuge thanks for this.

I just finished my second week of using the MUAC hand and body lotion, and holy shit. It just unseated Dr Jart ceramidin cream as the best product I've ever used.

The KP bumps on my arms are already reduced by at least 40%, the rest are noticeably surfacing. My feet are now softer than my hands. Thanks again; this product was a massive improvement on two areas I've never been able to do anything about. It did in two weeks what six months of Amlactin couldn't.

Gotcha. Thanks. I definitely fall into the combo skin group. I'm just trying to find myself a good nighttime serum to use. Dr Carver's isn't available in Canada, and apparently you need to be careful with which serum you choose?

Strongly recommend the long name Ampoule (Missha Time Revolution Night Repair Science Activator Borabit Ampoule) for combo skin. It's slightly thicker than a normal serum, packs an effective amount of Niacinamide, and I generally don't need a heavy moisturizer over it during warmer months unless I'm using actives.

One of the only products I stuck with after realizing the 10-step routine wasn't worth the effort.

Here's the cosdna link: http://www.cosdna.com/eng/cosmetic_1b4686823.html

I actually think low end Japanese stuff is way better than high end Japanese stuff. I use their drugstore makeup a lot and some skincare. 150% better than any of the drugstore stuff here (UK).
I have mixed feelings about Sulwhasoo. Like the skincare, hate the makeup. The whole herbal thing is very much up to personal taste though. Not everyone likes herbly stuff on their face.

My favourite brands that I always go to when in doubt is CosRx and Mizon for skincare, Missha for makeup. There are all 'high street' brands as they like to call them in Korea, which is essentially almost a drugstore brand. The funny thing is, a lot of them are dupes of western products, except a lot better than the thing they were ripping off in the first place. Very good example would be the Missha First Treatment essence which is their dupe for the super expensive SK-II treatment which is said to slow down ageing and honestly, the Missha stuff has pretty amazing short term results, compared to the SK-II. I've tried both (testers for SK-II, would never give that kind of money for it) and I cannot vouch for the long term results, but short term Missha is superior.


Eye cream! I actually just usually slap my cream under the eyes as well, my recent obsession is the Beauty of Joseon Dynasty cream. It makes your skin feel like baby bottoms, but if I had to go eye specific it's the Skinfood Salmon cream. I don't have dark circles, but I've seen it do wonders for those.



EDIT: For the record, I really don't think silicones are nearly as bad for you as people make it out to be.

I agree with all of this - especially the CosRX and Mizon recommendations. Great, cheap brands. CosRX is basically CeraVe with more of a focus on active ingredients.

Sulwhasoo is a must-avoid for me though. I have never seen more irritants in skincare than in their ingredients lists. It feels like a similar product philosophy to Burts Bees or Lush, but much higher end.
 
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meow

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,094
NYC
One suggestion I'll make about Asian skincare is that it is fairly easy to get cheap decants of products. I kinda recommend going that route and seeing if they work for you first. I fell into the cosrx hype and I now have 95% full containers of the low ph good morning cleanser, BHA blackhead power liquid, nourishing rice overnight mask, and snail 92 cream that I don't use. I should've stopped after the first two products I tried didn't work for me but they just sounded soooo goooooood.
 

Alex3190

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,127
Yes, I have been waiting for this thread!

I have so many questions. Will watch the thread and ask later.

Edit: just noticed it's from last month, thanks for the bump.

Edit: okay so I had a pimple and once it went away it left a brown spot behind. Any ideas how to get rid of it?

Next question is that I get a lot of in grown hairs on my face and neck and when I shave downward it can leave red bumps on my face and neck. I have been using a sharp tweezer to pull them a bit then shave them off but it doesn't seem to fix the problem. I also use a safety razor which has helped a bit compared to a regular razor.

I am Puerto Rican if that helps.

Any solutions to my problems?
 
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Lucario

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Oct 26, 2017
93
gay
Yes, I have been waiting for this thread!

I have so many questions. Will watch the thread and ask later.

Edit: just noticed it's from last month, thanks for the bump.

Edit: okay so I had a pimple and once it went away it left a brown spot behind. Any ideas how to get rid of it?

Next question is that I get a lot of in grown hairs on my face and neck and when I shave downward it can leave red bumps on my face and neck. I have been using a sharp tweezer to pull them a bit then shave them off but it doesn't seem to fix the problem. I also use a safety razor which has helped a bit compared to a regular razor.

Any solutions to my problems?

Chemical exfoliants like BHA and AHA can help prevent the bumps from forming, and the brown spot should go away on its own after a few months.

The Paula's Choice BHA and AHA products in the OP are great, if a bit expensive. Just make sure to apply sunscreen for as long as you're using 'em. CosRX Blackhead Power Cream/Liquid is a decent cheaper alternative.
 

shazrobot

Member
Oct 28, 2017
882
Man such a bummer with my skin. Always had problems from 14 years old onward. Barely any pimples any more as I'm nearly 30 but just cysts now. Like deep, never come to head ones. Only like one at a time, but I always have at least one. Derms only ever lance or give it a good shot of some sort of steroid.

I have a rigorous skin care routine CeraVe foaming cleaner morning and night + 8% AHA (mostly once a day, sometimes twice). CeraVe moisturizer after applying.

I don't think is probably going to go away. Derms basically say to just keep taking Mino/doxycycline forever or rocuttane. I haven't decided but when I get health insurance again, I might take the plundge.
 

Shane

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Oct 25, 2017
3,015
Will write a longer reply tomorrow. Thanks in advance for any help. It's about time I admit that a big part of my depression comes from my shame of having facial skin problems. Get so ashamed and tend to hide away till it clears up.
 

Pet

More helpful than the IRS
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,070
SoCal
Man such a bummer with my skin. Always had problems from 14 years old onward. Barely any pimples any more as I'm nearly 30 but just cysts now. Like deep, never come to head ones. Only like one at a time, but I always have at least one. Derms only ever lance or give it a good shot of some sort of steroid.

I have a rigorous skin care routine CeraVe foaming cleaner morning and night + 8% AHA (mostly once a day, sometimes twice). CeraVe moisturizer after applying.

I don't think is probably going to go away. Derms basically say to just keep taking Mino/doxycycline forever or rocuttane. I haven't decided but when I get health insurance again, I might take the plundge.

Ooh that's unfortunate.

What about using a retinol in your mix, with bp and sa?
 

Pet

More helpful than the IRS
The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
7,070
SoCal
I've never tried retinol, though I think I've tried almost everything else under the sun, might as well give a whirl. I'll look into it!

I get hormonal cysts on my chin, that last like weeks... but I find the hot washcloth/retinol/SA routine really, really helps cut it down.

I'm surprised you're on antibiotics for acne though. Admittedly I'm not a doctor but it seems like potentially using them when you don't need to could possibly cause a resistance. Ionno. I also assume you experimented with your diet and sleep and exercise to see if it helped before trying the dermatologist?
 

Lady Murasaki

Scary Shiny Glasses
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Oct 25, 2017
680
Went to the derm yesterday and she was just horrified when I told her how many products my routine had (an average 10 step half korean routine). She almost got mad at me - and I don't even have products with powerful actives.

She wanted to give me isotretinoin but I wasn't into it, so she gave me a milder antibiotic (tetracycline). I don't really think I have acne so bad that needs those kind of treatments, but took the second anyway, since she said it would help with my blackheads.

Asked for some advice for fine lines and she suggested me some bullshit Vichy eye cream -_- I am heartbroken. Eye creams for fine lines seem to be the graal of cosmetics.

She also was VERY skeptic about AHA and BHA. Thinking in continue the oral treatment if it works, but about creams and skin care I will continue to do based on my own research.
 

Gibson

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Oct 29, 2017
2,270
I have a bit of a challenge for anyone who knows their stuff.
When I was in my earlier twenties I had a course of Isotretinoin, which basically caused chronic dryness on my face (my lips, my nose, and most stubbornly and problematically under my beard!). It also gave me ulcerative colitis (but that's a different thread!)

My real struggle is finding a moisturizer which curbs the dryness, and by dryness sometimes in my beard the skin is practically flaking off - very embarrassing! I also have a problem that my T-zone gets significantly oily throughout the day (I use oil blogging sheets to manage it) but it means I have this unpleasant combination between oily and flaky! And also my skin is highly sensitive so I find some exfoliants too abrasive.

I'm looking for a very effective, soluble moisturizer, preferably water based and not a heavy, thick cream, which I find looks too greasy to apply in the day time. I've probably tried about twenty different products over the past year but I've not found anything that actually helps with the dryness.
 

Neolith

Member
Oct 25, 2017
129
Lucky I don't have problems with blemishes, but can anyone recommend a product(s) for those with the curse of the winter crusty hands?
 

EssBeeVee

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Oct 25, 2017
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I forgot all about Black friday in regards to skin care products so i missed out on some deals.
It's winter here but the weather hasn't been cold enough where i start drying/flaking up. but at the same time i haven't really used any skin products outside of face washes which i rarely uses. may need to start up again. after i get some new glasses. lol. you know, new year new me soon ;P
 

BlueBadger

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Oct 26, 2017
936
I have a bit of a challenge for anyone who knows their stuff.
When I was in my earlier twenties I had a course of Isotretinoin, which basically caused chronic dryness on my face (my lips, my nose, and most stubbornly and problematically under my beard!). It also gave me ulcerative colitis (but that's a different thread!)

My real struggle is finding a moisturizer which curbs the dryness, and by dryness sometimes in my beard the skin is practically flaking off - very embarrassing! I also have a problem that my T-zone gets significantly oily throughout the day (I use oil blogging sheets to manage it) but it means I have this unpleasant combination between oily and flaky! And also my skin is highly sensitive so I find some exfoliants too abrasive.

I'm looking for a very effective, soluble moisturizer, preferably water based and not a heavy, thick cream, which I find looks too greasy to apply in the day time. I've probably tried about twenty different products over the past year but I've not found anything that actually helps with the dryness.
I feel your struggle a bit, man. I was on that stuff when I was 14-15 years old, for about 9-12 months. It really does a number on not only your skin, but your entire body. Having said that, it's unfortunately the only thing that's cured my acne for good. It was really, really bad when I was in my early teens. Like, it was brutal.

I think I may not be feeling the aftermath quite as severely as you. The only places where I now seem to have chronic dryness is on my lips and certain patches under my face scruff.
I am like you though, in that my forehead gets rather shiny.

How long is your beard, if you don't mind me asking? I almost never shave my scruff all the way to my bare skin, because I hate how it makes my face look. However, I find that whenever I do shave it down and apply moisturizer, the dryness completely goes away.

Have you tried any Paula's Choice products yet? There's this moisturizer that might help you out....

Just wanted to reply and tell you that I really feel your struggle. Accutane sucks. What a brutal experience, and don't even get me started with the monthly blood tests!
 

Gibson

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Oct 29, 2017
2,270
I feel your struggle a bit, man. I was on that stuff when I was 14-15 years old, for about 9-12 months. It really does a number on not only your skin, but your entire body. Having said that, it's unfortunately the only thing that's cured my acne for good. It was really, really bad when I was in my early teens. Like, it was brutal.

I think I may not be feeling the aftermath quite as severely as you. The only places where I now seem to have chronic dryness is on my lips and certain patches under my face scruff.
I am like you though, in that my forehead gets rather shiny.

How long is your beard, if you don't mind me asking? I almost never shave my scruff all the way to my bare skin, because I hate how it makes my face look. However, I find that whenever I do shave it down and apply moisturizer, the dryness completely goes away.

Have you tried any Paula's Choice products yet? There's this moisturizer that might help you out....

Just wanted to reply and tell you that I really feel your struggle. Accutane sucks. What a brutal experience, and don't even get me started with the monthly blood tests!

Thanks for your response!
Yes Isotretinoin was a big mistake, I can't even say it really helped me all that much as for me acne was never the issue, but excessive oil (which came back with a vengeance after the treatment!) and as a result of the treatment I am stuck with ulcerative colitis all of my life and having this constant battle with dry skin.

That's me in my avatar, my beard is usually anything from long stubble to a couple of cm, I tend not to let it get too long (it gets itchy) and I pretty much never go clean shaven (when I do that it really irritates my skin to the point it looks burnt!)

I'm pretty much always trying to manage my beard and the dryness related to it, it's definitely more problematic for me than oilyness and dryness elsewhere on my face. I tried a beard oil once in an attempt to soften my beard so that it might curb flakiness underneath but I had a terrible allergic reaction to the oil (it was a combination of about ten different essential oils or something) so I'm extremely weary to try any beard oil products going forward.

Thanks for the moisturizer recommendation! I'll check it out
 

RoyalJCC

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
420
So guys/girls, good to see a thread like this pop up. So here it goes:

I have really problematic skin (I had cystic acne a few years ago that's gone thanks to a treatment) and is actually kind of sensitive and because of that I'm always jumping from product to product because after some time either the product starts having some problem with my skin or its effect on my skin doesn't last. I don't have a really strong beard but I do have some and I'm pretty afraid to let it stay on my face for long because of clogged pores as my skin is really oily.

I've used Bulldog Oil Control face wash and moisturiser (bought them because they are "more" natural and you clearly feel it when using them) for a while but because I had no exfoliator a big pimple started appearing and I freaked out because it reminded of my face when I had acne. So I bought a exfoliator (Nivea for men) and applied some leave in salicylic acid cream (Clean and Clear) and the pimple eventually started fading - still I wasn't satisfied with the result so I switched to a daily exfoliator with some salicylic acid (Loreal Men Expert Pure Power) and a moisturiser with the same ingredient. The pimple already started fading and I bought these products this past Saturday.

Now my question is: is this too much Salicylic Acid? I've already used this combo a few months ago but I don't remember why I dropped it.


Another question: how about back acne? How do you fight it and keep it under control?


EDIT: Another thing. Some brands are quite difficult to find here and I'm an university student so I don't have that much to spend. I try to do the best I can with what I have.
 

ginger ninja

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Oct 25, 2017
3,060
Thank you for this thread. Have never really been serious about taking care of my skin and while I am trying to learn and understand, there's a whole torrent of information and conflicting suggestions that can be confusing as fuck.

I will ask more questions as i go through this thread but does anyone has recommendation for a skin care product or treatment for dark circles for men ? I have realized that mine look pretty bad. Some of this has to do with my bad sleeping habits which i am trying to fix but currently the area around my eyes looks like a race track.
 

catberry

Member
Oct 31, 2017
187
London
Thank you so much for the recommendations! I heard that SK-II wasn't that anti aging panacea that so many skin care gurus swear by. I confess that after having an habit of reading the ingredients list I got so much more skeptical about most products. But still vulnerable to some advertising! Those gorgeous pictures of Joseon ladies in the cream ads made my eyes shine! It seems so good. It is already on my wishlist.

About silicones, I am curious - don't you think they are hiding the real deal? I always thought they worked as some sort of camouflage with little real effect. To be honest I don't mind them very much - unlike the mineral oil which I really avoid.

Re: Silicones - I think they are harmful to the environment, which is why they are getting a big red tape. However, I don't think they are harmful to skin. There's a big difference. In fact I think they are amazing for hair, especially if you have frizzy/dusty hair. Some people with really fine hair attract dust like crazy and get a lot of frizz - silicone products or even just a small bottle of pure silicone like the ones they sell for bodypaints does wonders. I know a lot of makeup artists still use that bodypaint silicone to get the 'dewy' effect, if the person doesn't naturally have super healthy skin.



I agree with all of this - especially the CosRX and Mizon recommendations. Great, cheap brands. CosRX is basically CeraVe with more of a focus on active ingredients.

Sulwhasoo is a must-avoid for me though. I have never seen more irritants in skincare than in their ingredients lists. It feels like a similar product philosophy to Burts Bees or Lush, but much higher end.

I have a love/hate relationship with Wishtrend and their recommendations. Sometimes they are spot on, sometimes it's pretty clear they're selling out. That said, it is still the primary source of my shopping sprees. That and the Innisfree international website. I do prefer Innisfree for makeup though, their cushions are my favourite and they recently expanded to 16 shades, which is unheard of in Korea.

I didn't realise that about Sulwhasoo at all to be honest! Thanks for pointing that out. I keep telling people about Lush and Burts Bees. I live in the UK and the hype with these brands is REAL here. I just can't understand it. Not to mention Lush products are all the same formula, just put in a different fruit, different shape and BAM different product. As if it works like that. I really hate Lush :(
 

BlueBadger

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Oct 26, 2017
936
Thanks for your response!
Yes Isotretinoin was a big mistake, I can't even say it really helped me all that much as for me acne was never the issue, but excessive oil (which came back with a vengeance after the treatment!) and as a result of the treatment I am stuck with ulcerative colitis all of my life and having this constant battle with dry skin.

That's me in my avatar, my beard is usually anything from long stubble to a couple of cm, I tend not to let it get too long (it gets itchy) and I pretty much never go clean shaven (when I do that it really irritates my skin to the point it looks burnt!)

I'm pretty much always trying to manage my beard and the dryness related to it, it's definitely more problematic for me than oilyness and dryness elsewhere on my face. I tried a beard oil once in an attempt to soften my beard so that it might curb flakiness underneath but I had a terrible allergic reaction to the oil (it was a combination of about ten different essential oils or something) so I'm extremely weary to try any beard oil products going forward.

Thanks for the moisturizer recommendation! I'll check it out
Well based on your avatar, your skin looks great! :)

I was actually going to mention the idea of beard oil as well, but figured you may have already tried it. It sounds like you'd have to get something really bare bones if you were to try that again, since the mixture of essential oils didn't seem to gel well with your skin!

Do check out that moisturizer, though, and see if it's something that might work! I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with Accutane :(. Sounds like you had it pretty rough. I've never heard of it being used for oil control as opposed to severe acne! I've had issues with my digestive tract for a number of years and am way too terrified to go to the doctor for it lol.

I know you mentioned that you tried exfoliating and that they might be a bit too harsh, but have you tried chemical exfoliating products as opposed to the "physical" ones with harsh beads in them? You might have better luck with those. They're much gentler on the skin!
 

Shane

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,015
Ok, so here goes.. actually I don't even know where to start. As a 35 year old I'm still embarrassed to get acne, and know I don't sleep well most nights because I worry about what I might see the next morning.

I can't spout the cliché of saying I've tried everything, because it's moreso that what I have tried either didn't work, or made things worse, so perhaps I've just given up. I have very oily skin for the most part, and seems like I have for as long as I remember. Few times I've gone to the doctor and gotten prescribed something, it never seemed to work either, so again, just felt like I've given up on it.

I guess I'm just confused with what to do and when, what's a good process to have, am I putting too much on my face. Maybe it's something to do with my shaving, but I've tried not shaving for periods of time (horrible), and I still have terrible skin issues. When am I using a cleanser? Or how often? When am I exfoliating? When am I moisturizing? How often? How does this all fit into a shaving process as well? Etc etc etc…

Most of all, what should I be using?? I don't really use much currently other than a cetaphil moisturizer and actually have the Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser mentioned in the OP but that seems to really dry out my skin. Nothing has fixed the root cause of my oily skin, but I see more recommendations in the OP so I'll have to give those some more focus.

Think I'm just rambling at this post, so will leave it at that for now.
 

catberry

Member
Oct 31, 2017
187
London
Ok, so here goes.. actually I don't even know where to start. As a 35 year old I'm still embarrassed to get acne, and know I don't sleep well most nights because I worry about what I might see the next morning.

I can't spout the cliché of saying I've tried everything, because it's moreso that what I have tried either didn't work, or made things worse, so perhaps I've just given up. I have very oily skin for the most part, and seems like I have for as long as I remember. Few times I've gone to the doctor and gotten prescribed something, it never seemed to work either, so again, just felt like I've given up on it.

I guess I'm just confused with what to do and when, what's a good process to have, am I putting too much on my face. Maybe it's something to do with my shaving, but I've tried not shaving for periods of time (horrible), and I still have terrible skin issues. When am I using a cleanser? Or how often? When am I exfoliating? When am I moisturizing? How often? How does this all fit into a shaving process as well? Etc etc etc…

Most of all, what should I be using?? I don't really use much currently other than a cetaphil moisturizer and actually have the Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser mentioned in the OP but that seems to really dry out my skin. Nothing has fixed the root cause of my oily skin, but I see more recommendations in the OP so I'll have to give those some more focus.

Think I'm just rambling at this post, so will leave it at that for now.

There's loads of youtube videos to show how to use products and how much product. I don't think you can get acne from using too much product to be honest. One thing most people don't mention that I truly believe in is the patting skin dry with the product. When you apply a cream or essence/toner/etc just tap your face gently with your hands until it absorbs. If it doesn't absorb and it's sticky you probably don't want this product and need to switch to something that absorbs. My bf had super dry flakey skin problem for the longest time, he went to a skin clinic - turns out his skin just doesn't absorb anything at all, they gave him some parafin emollient to keep the product in until it absorbs. (altho I personally prefer coconut oil instead).

Have you ever gone to a skin clinic? A place where people go for you know, facials, laser surgeries up to plastic surgeries, depending on the country. They're pretty good and have the devices to evaluate your skin and what the problem is. There's machines that do that for you and are far more accurate than a person looking at it with their eyes or most blood tests.
 

El Mariachi

Member
Oct 31, 2017
754
Austria
As someone who has struggled with acne his whole life and finally got rid of it this year let me recite a quote that changed my way of thinking and got me to where I am now. Here it goes:

Your skin is only a portrayal of what you throw inside yourself.

That's really all there is to it. Fix up your nutrition and you'll get baby-soft and clean skin again. Take my word for it.
 

BlueBadger

Member
Oct 26, 2017
936
As someone who has struggled with acne his whole life and finally got rid of it this year let me recite a quote that changed my way of thinking and got me to where I am now. Here it goes:

Your skin is only a portrayal of what you throw inside yourself.

That's really all there is to it. Fix up your nutrition and you'll get baby-soft and clean skin again. Take my word for it.
I mean, I definitely don't disagree with you. That plays a huge part in your skin's overall health. But certainly you can't deny that there's also a huge genetic component to acne? Clean diet or not, some people are much more predisposed to getting acne than others. Genes play a big role in your body's inflammatory response to bacteria, hormone production etc. So I wouldn't necessarily say that's "all there is to it", yknow?
 

catberry

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I mean, I definitely don't disagree with you. That plays a huge part in your skin's overall health. But certainly you can't deny that there's also a huge genetic component to acne? Clean diet or not, some people are much more predisposed to getting acne than others. Genes play a big role in your body's inflammatory response to bacteria, hormone production etc. So I wouldn't necessarily say that's "all there is to it", yknow?

That. 100%. People have different skin. Some people do all the wrong things on their skin and get nothing bad for it (wait until age takes the toll on it all tho) and some people have a perfect diet, great skincare regime and still get pimples. Trust me, I know. ._.
 

Gibson

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Well based on your avatar, your skin looks great! :)

I was actually going to mention the idea of beard oil as well, but figured you may have already tried it. It sounds like you'd have to get something really bare bones if you were to try that again, since the mixture of essential oils didn't seem to gel well with your skin!

Do check out that moisturizer, though, and see if it's something that might work! I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with Accutane :(. Sounds like you had it pretty rough. I've never heard of it being used for oil control as opposed to severe acne! I've had issues with my digestive tract for a number of years and am way too terrified to go to the doctor for it lol.

I know you mentioned that you tried exfoliating and that they might be a bit too harsh, but have you tried chemical exfoliating products as opposed to the "physical" ones with harsh beads in them? You might have better luck with those. They're much gentler on the skin!

Thanks! :)
I will look into chemical exfoliants too then, see if I have any success with those
 

BlueBadger

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That. 100%. People have different skin. Some people do all the wrong things on their skin and get nothing bad for it (wait until age takes the toll on it all tho) and some people have a perfect diet, great skincare regime and still get pimples. Trust me, I know. ._.
Saaaaame here :(. When I was in the 9th grade, my acne was at its all time worst (that was when I started Accutane). At the time, I was a provincial sprinter and we were on strict/clean diets as a result. It made no difference to my acne X_X
Thanks! :)
I will look into chemical exfoliants too then, see if I have any success with those
Sounds good! I know I've already mentioned Paula's Choice, but they have really great chemical exfoliants that you can check out as well! :)
 

El Mariachi

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I mean, I definitely don't disagree with you. That plays a huge part in your skin's overall health. But certainly you can't deny that there's also a huge genetic component to acne? Clean diet or not, some people are much more predisposed to getting acne than others. Genes play a big role in your body's inflammatory response to bacteria, hormone production etc. So I wouldn't necessarily say that's "all there is to it", yknow?
No, I don't and I'll tell you why. 99% of the time people use the phrase genetics as a cheap excuse to avoid fixing the problem properly.
Give me a 10 minute talk with anyone who claim genetics are responsible for his or her skin picture where they lay out their diet and I guarantee you that I'll find their issue - and it certainly won't be genetics.

And by the way: You put the genetic issue in here in here wrong anyway. Where genetic come into play is say how your skin reacts to certain foods. For emample some people react less severe to sugar than others. THAT is genetic. I am almost certain that only very, very, very few people have natural bad skin. Everyone else just reacts to certain foods. Your mission is to find out which food it is. I for instance learned through extensive trail and error that my skin does not like fresh fruits for some reason. Sugar was the other one. Experiment folks. It may take some time but let me tell you, its worth the effort.
 
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BlueBadger

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No, I don't and I'll tell you why. 99% of the
time people use the phrase genetics as a cheap excuse to avoid fixing the problem properly.
Give me a 10 minute talk with anyone who claim genetics are responsible for his or her skin picture where they lay out their diet and I guarantee you that I'll find their issue - and it certainly won't be genetics.
You are absolutely, 100% wrong about this. Sorry. You just are.
You're going to discount SEVERAL studies that have been conducted in regards to this just because you want to tell people they're making up an excuse? Just... No.
The results from this large adult twin study suggest a strong genetic basis for acne as 81% of the population variation in acne scores in U.K. adult twins was attributed to genetic factors and family history of the disease confirmed a significant familial clustering. These results are in keeping with two previous twin studies of acne that reported heritability estimates between 50 and 90%.
http://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(15)30101-9/fulltext#s0045

I can already tell your mind is set, but I absolutely cannot agree with you here. I've experienced it firsthand. It's not all diet, no matter how much you want it to be. The evidence strongly suggests otherwise, and I can personally attest to it. Diet helps, absolutely. But at the end of the day, genetics plays an equally important role on your predisposition to acne. End of story.

Acne is a really, really sensitive topic for people. Particularly for those of us who DO live healthy lifestyles and were still plagued by acne in the past. If you're going to make bold claims like we're making up a "cheap excuse", you'd better be prepared to explain yourself with more than just "I changed my diet and it worked for me, so it's all diet."

Also, not once did I say that genetics is the one and only issue. There is no "acne gene". All I said is that genetics strongly predisposes certain people to acne problems over other people, because our genetics directly affect our body's inflammation response to bacteria and our hormone levels etc. And that's absolutely true.

EDIT: If you think that all our genes are capable of is determining how we react to different foods, then you're highly underestimating what your body does and responds to. lol.
 
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El Mariachi

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You are absolutely, 100% wrong about this. Sorry. You just are.
You're going to discount SEVERAL studies that have been conducted in regards to this just because you want to tell people they're making up an excuse? Just... No.

http://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(15)30101-9/fulltext#s0045

I can already tell your mind is set, but I absolutely cannot agree with you here. I've experienced it firsthand. It's not all diet, no matter how much you want it to be. The evidence strongly suggests otherwise, and I can personally attest to it. Diet helps, absolutely. But at the end of the day, genetics plays an equally important role on your predisposition to acne. End of story.

Acne is a really, really sensitive topic for people. Particularly for those of us who DO live healthy lifestyles and were still plagued by acne in the past. If you're going to make bold claims like we're making up a "cheap excuse", you'd better be prepared to explain yourself with more than just "I changed my diet and it worked for me, so it's all diet."

Also, not once did I say that genetics is the one and only issue. There is no "acne gene". All I said is that genetics strongly predisposes certain people to acne problems over other people, because our genetics directly affect our body's inflammation response to bacteria and our hormone levels etc. And that's absolutely true.
I edited my post above. Genetics come into play as to how you react to certain foods. People with inheritadly bad skin a probably a dime in a dozen. Everyone else is just fooling himself. Not once did I speak to someone and wasn't able to find a possible/propable flaw in his/her nutrition.

Like I said above, experiment with your diet. There is so much artificial shit in our food these days, you're bound to react to it. Someone does it more severe than the other. Find out what's causing it. Don't cheap out with the "genetic" excuse before your tried everything.

Oh, and by the way: Thanks for posting links to those "studies". The only thing you'll achieve with this is to stop people trying before they even started. Bravo bro!
 

BlueBadger

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I edited my post above. Genetics come into play as to how you react to certain foods. People with inheritadly bad skin a probably a dime in a dozen. Everyone else is just fooling himself. Not once did I speak to someone and wasn't able to find a possible/propable flaw in his/her nutrition.

Like I said above, experiment with your diet. There is so much artificial shit in our food these days, you're bound to react to it. Someone does it more severe than the other. Find out what's causing it. Don't cheap out with the "genetic" excuse before your tried everything.

Oh, and by the way: Thanks for posting links to those "studies". The only thing you'll achieve with this is to stop people trying before they even started. Bravo bro!
LOL. I'm not trying to "stop" people from doing anything. I've agreed with you every single time that diet plays a huge role. Therefore, your reasoning that I'm trying to get people to stop trying is flawed, and sad. But your denial of the predisposing role that genetics plays is just ignorance on your part, unfortunately.

Lmao I love how you're thanking me for backing myself up with valid information that contradicts your "personal experience". Bravo, bro!
 

El Mariachi

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LOL. I'm not trying to "stop" people from doing anything. I've agreed with you every single time that diet plays a huge role. Therefore, your reasoning that I'm trying to get people to stop trying is flawed, and sad. But your denial of the predisposing role that genetics plays is just ignorance on your part, unfortunately.

Lmao I love how you're thanking me for backing myself up with valid information. Bravo, bro!
See? This is exactly why I don't even bother trying to help people anymore. It seems that I forgot for a moment. Thanks for reminding me.
 

Lucario

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Staying hydrated and eating clean is undeniably a huge portion of skincare, but claiming it's the only factor is absurd. You can't change your diet enough to stop hormonal acne, ingrown hairs, shaving irritation, rosacea, or sun damage.

Everyone should eat clean, but everyone should also moisturize and wear sunscreen. They're not mutually exclusive.
 

Kirblar

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Does anyone have any experience dealing with acne/ingrown hair issues from body hair growing in? It's been an issue for me since HS (arm/chest hair did not grow in fully like they were supposed to) and it's finally coming in now but causing a lot of annoyance on the way in. Right now I'm using defense soap + salycitic acid to try and help, which is helping, but dunno if there's anything better i could be doing.
 

BlueBadger

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Staying hydrated and eating clean is undeniably a huge portion of skincare, but claiming it's the only factor is absurd. You can't change your diet enough to stop hormonal acne, ingrown hairs, shaving irritation, rosacea, or sun damage.

Everyone should eat clean, but everyone should also moisturize and wear sunscreen. They're not mutually exclusive.
100% this. That's what I was trying to get at, as well! :)
 

Pet

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Does anyone have any experience dealing with acne/ingrown hair issues from body hair growing in? It's been an issue for me since HS (arm/chest hair did not grow in fully like they were supposed to) and it's finally coming in now but causing a lot of annoyance on the way in. Right now I'm using defense soap + salycitic acid to try and help, which is helping, but dunno if there's anything better i could be doing.

Exfoliate! I know you're using SA, but if it's on places with less sensitive skin than your face, you can use a physical scrubber. Like one of those sponge thingies. I know pumice stones are for feet, never tried one elsewhere, but something like that.
 

Kirblar

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Exfoliate! I know you're using SA, but if it's on places with less sensitive skin than your face, you can use a physical scrubber. Like one of those sponge thingies. I know pumice stones are for feet, never tried one elsewhere, but something like that.
Thankfully all of the facial hair around my mouth appears to be finally done growing in, its just on my cheeks, which is easy enough to deal with.