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I wouldn't really say pretty impressive when it's heavily bundled and it was selling for £35 and under this week.

Spidey actually moved up though this week and selling better than AC after more weeks on the chart and still full price. I'd call that more impressive and worthy of a tweet.
Easy Spidey boy, a Racing game that high in the charts Is quite impressive, even with the discounts.
Spiderman? Come on, he is most popular superhero, this shouldnt be impressive for you, besides, we always get tons of posts and tweets praising Spiderman's performance every week, do you want more?
 

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Easy Spidey boy, a Racing game that high in the charts Is quite impressive, even with the discounts.
Spiderman? Come on, he is most popular superhero, this shouldnt be impressive for you, besides, we always get tons of posts and tweets praising Spiderman performance every week, do you want more?
Spidey came out a month earlier, is top 5, full price and outselling an open world action game (more like for like than a racing game). That's more impressive than a heavily bundled, discounted game for me, regardless of which has received more praise.

And I know full well Spidey is bundled but it's not the main PS4 bundle. You've got FIFA and of course RDR2 bundles making up their fair share, when MS is pretty much Forza as the key SKU.
 

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Context? Because only FH4 is heavily bundled, but Spider-Man? Please.
Yes context, if you want to make this a comparison then sure, both games are bundled, one opened with double the numbers of the other and launched a month earlier, one is selling for full price and the other received a price cut and promotions, yet you are so quick attacking someone trying to give us some info.
 

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Spidey came out a month earlier, is top 5, full price and outselling an open world action game (more like for like than a racing game). That's more impressive than a heavily bundled, discounted game for me, regardless of which has received more praise.
Do you read your own words before posting?
SPIDERMAN IS AN OPEN WORLD ACTION GAME, Is heavily bundled and right now is the most popular superhero on earth and is on the best selling console, with all the marketing that a Sony exclusive receives.
Read this and stop posting nosenses.
 

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Yes context, if you want to make this a comparison then sure, both games are bundled, one opened with double the numbers of the other and launched a month earlier, one is selling for full price and the other received a price cut and promotions, yet you are so quick attacking someone trying to give us some info.


Attacking? Stop being ridicolus, the tweet is crystal clear, but somehow the "muh Spider-Man sales" must be brought because reasons and context, and this is not the first time that happened, but knowing you and your history i'm just wasting my team arguing with you, keep fighting the good fight.
 

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Do you read your own words before posting?
SPIDERMAN IS AN OPEN WORLD ACTION GAME, Is heavily bundled and right now is the most popular superhero ok earth.
Read this and stop posting nosenses.
Fine if you just want to disregard all my points. I'll post what I see and if I disagree then I'm going to try and construct a post to counter it with key points. Rather than call someone dumb, pathetic or whatever when they don't like something.

And I said Spidey is an open world action game. It's what like for like means ;)
 

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Tweet is talking about FH4 and ACO, but let's bring the: "Spider-Man sales are more impressive" because context.
 

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I wouldn't really say pretty impressive when it's heavily bundled and it was selling for £35 and under this week.

Spidey actually moved up though this week and selling better than AC after more weeks on the chart and still full price. I'd call that more impressive and worthy of a tweet.

I'm no fan of Forza Horizon, but it's very impressive that a racing game is selling this well on the poorly selling console. I don't think this will be represented elsewhere, as the UK loves its racing games, but even so it's impressive.

I'm disappointed that this is the racing game to break through, though.
 

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Tweet is talking about FH4 and ACO, but let's bring the: "Spider-Man sales are more impressive" because context.

Which I disagreed is pretty impressive vs another stat. Nothing wrong with that but some seem to be getting their panties in a bunch.

So you don't agree that Spidey outselling AC is impressive then? Taken Forza completely out of the equation there.
 

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Yes context, if you want to make this a comparison then sure, both games are bundled, one opened with double the numbers of the other and launched a month earlier, one is selling for full price and the other received a price cut and promotions, yet you are so quick attacking someone trying to give us some info.

Context? Ok cool. Let's do it.

One is a racing game. A genre that has historically been declining in popularity for almost a decade. On the currently lowest selling platform and can be accessed via a $10 sub that can be cancelled at any time.

That enough context?
 

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Let's knock off this nonsense please.

We can all discuss the performance of a game without personal attack's.
 

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Fine if you just want to disregard all my points. I'll post what I see and if I disagree then I'm going to try and construct a post to counter it with key points. Rather than call someone dumb, pathetic or whatever when they don't like something.

Key points? You came in saying FH4 is heavily bundled when Spider-Man is with 3 different SKU bundles, then ignored it when pointed out and doubled-down on heavily bundled again later in the thread. Hell, if anything, it makes FH4 more impressive because it's selling in bundles for the least popular console in the UK right now compared to Spidey selling in the popular console bundles.
 

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Attacking? Stop being ridicolus, the tweet is crystal clear, but somehow the "muh Spider-Man sales" must be brought because reasons and context, and this is not the first time that happened, but knowing you and your history i'm just wasting my team arguing with you, keep fighting the good fight.
Are you gonna talk about the points I brought up or you're just gonna call everyone a console warrior? Pointing out a game is getting bundled and receiving a price cut in a sales thread is console war?

One is a racing game. A genre that has historically been declining in popularity for almost a decade.
FH is actually gaining popularity, FH3 sold over 400k in the UK alone last year, it's one of the strongest racing franchises there.
On the currently lowest selling platform
There isn't a big difference between PS4 and Xbox in the UK, last figure from March was something like 57:43.
and can be accessed via a $10 sub that can be cancelled at any time.
I thought GP actually helps sales and not hurt them?
 
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So you don't agree that Spidey outselling AC is impressive then? Taken Forza completely out of the equation there.

Spider-Man has literally nothing to do with the tweet, you are the one bringing the game into the discussion, when none is talking about Spider-Man.
None is denying Spider-Man success.
 

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Fine if you just want to disregard all my points. I'll post what I see and if I disagree then I'm going to try and construct a post to counter it with key points. Rather than call someone dumb, pathetic or whatever when they don't like something.

And I said Spidey is an open world action game. It's what like for like means ;)
I'll post what I see and if I disagree then I'm going to try and construct a post to counter it with key points
You werent doing this, you just were complaining about someone's tweet that had NOTHING to do with Spiderman, i mean, are you gonna complain if Zhuge or Matt praises FH4' performance in sales too?
 

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Spider Man keeps killing it.
Black Ops 4 legs will be insane.
RDR2 is a monster.

Also anyone has estimates (numbers)?
 

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Wow, nice for Spidey.

I know it´s only UK, but I think 10 million before 2019 is a lock
 

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Are you gonna talk about the points I brought up or you're just gonna call everyone a console warrior? Pointing out a game is getting bundled and receiving a price cut in a sales thread is console war?

Let's talk bout points, FH4 is also available on Gamepass and guess what it's the biggest launch of the series in the UK and it's outselling AC in retail.

Spider-Man is a big success on its own and none is denying that

And yes you are a console warrior, i'm done arguing with you, you are litterally taking out of contest a normal tweet and you are here spinning it to fill your agenda, dont try to fool me Saint-14, into the ignore list, don't even bother anymore.
 

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You werent doing this, you just were complaining about someone's tweet that had NOTHING to do with Spiderman, i mean, are you gonna complain if Zhuge or Matt praises FH4' performance in sales too?
Not if I think it's not worthy of actual praise. In this instance I think the tweet isn't a fair comparison within the context.
 

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All he did was provide context
No need to get so defensive and aggressive

His context was: "FH4 numbers are not impressive, Spider-Man is more impressive and worthy of tweet", this is not context, this is downplaning a game because another game sold more.

If the tweet was about all three games, sure, but it is not. I'm done here.
 
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He mentionned that it was approaching 1m all platforms combined.

I said that it will eventually reach 1 million (retail) but that doesn't mean it is near this milestone yet, it will still need some time to get there. If we include digital it is already above that mark though.
 

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Not if I think it's not worthy of actual praise. In this instance I think the tweet isn't a fair comparison within the context.

If you honestly don't think that an exclusive driving game on the UK's 3rd most popular console outselling one of gaming's big franchises across 2 platforms lifetime to date over the same period of time isn't impressive, I'm not sure what to say.

Hell, the UK's best priced XBox One X bundle last week even had Assassins Creed Odyssey in it on top of that.
 

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The tweet was very clearly stating a simple fact yet many here decided to freak out and make everything personal.

Bruno can make the new thread as usual and hopefully this console war nonsense stops here.

This thread will remain locked.
 
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