I loved the Pting too. It was adorable!
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Doctor Who Series 11 |OT|- She’s Here, and It’s About Time
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I loved the Pting too. It was adorable!
Not a bad episode but not a great episode either, also the Pting is clearly a Stitch clone and a lot of other folks are pointing that out. I am actually kinda glad that I didn't watch this from the start.
Next week episode should be good, as it's the Indian/Pakistan partition plus it's a Yaz centered episode.
Next week episode should be good, as it's the Indian/Pakistan partition plus it's a Yaz centered episode.
I mostly agree with this:
Except for season 4 being a train-wreck and should be forgotten. It has an amazing premise and does basically the darkest of darkest things with it. I thoroughly enjoyed it, even if it does have a ton of problems. The biggest was Starz co-producing it making the series very US centric, and I don't remember ever seeing so many explosions in the entire series added together. And like mentioned , the first half is absolutely terrific and the second half really takes a dive, but I don't consider it unwatchable, especially since it's only ten episodes long. And the final few minutes really makes me with that the BBC didn't mess up with the series, since the ending did show a interesting new setup for a new season.
I haven't given Aliens Amongst Us (season 5 from Big Finish) a shot yet, but I still have a ton of different audio adventures that I need to listen first. But regardless, yes you should watch Torchwood and I say go also for Miracle Day. It's not as good Children of Earth, but it's nowhere near as terrible as people make it out.
I really disliked Miracle Day when it first aired, but watching it back during the Twitch marathon it wasn't as bad as I remembered. It has a lot of issues and doesn't at all live up to the premise, let alone compare to Children of Earth, but it's not really any less watchable than series 1,
This is my second reply to the same post. This time I'm responding to what I perceive to be a very legitimate critique of my sometimes rather aggressive and indignant responses to criticism of episodes, showrunners, actors, and characters.
In my defence I can only say that I don't feel myself qualified to judge drama or dramatic productions definitively, and I operate on the assumption that those who think they are so qualified are mistaken. When it comes to Whovians, and honestly this is the only venue apart from real life where I encounter other Whovians, I'm often vexed to find what I consider to be perfectly lovely work being picked to death.
I could list the episodes that I don't think really work for me, and while that would undoubtedly surprise many other viewers who loved those particular episodes, in all honesty the fact that I could enumerate them on the fingers of a single maimed hand would only reinforce your observation that I essentially love all of Doctor Who.
And you know what? I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I watched the first episode with my father in November, 1963. I hated it when Doctor Who retired and they brought in this new guy. Then I loved him. Then they brought in a curly-haired impostor and I got used to that one, eventually. After that, I kind of got the idea.
The revival brought Doctor Who into the world of modern television, and its influence has grown because it's a franchise that attracts paying viewers over a long term. It's never wanted for talented writers and showrunners. So it's a bit annoying to read microcritiques presented as factual statements.
Is this thing on? Am I making sense?
Or a show that's trying to re-invent Doctor Who as drama with hints of sci-fi. Right now, imo, the only thing it has in common with Doctor Who, is the theme tune, titular character, and the Tardis.
I don't think that CC understands Doctor Who in the slightest.
It's nice it's getting new fans, I'm just sad when mediocrity is rewarded while brilliant episodes like Heaven Sent are some of the lowest rated episodes ever. I don't want this to be the direction Who continues in for years, although I know it will, sadly.
Such a bizarre episode. Elements of it absolutely amazing, others a complete, spectacular misfire. Huh.
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I really liked the bones of the thing- I loved the Pting and the sci-fi flavour to it, the use of the companions, and Jodie's performance- easily the best she's been so far, and I generally really like what she's done with the role.
The dialogue, though. Whoof. Just drowned the episode in word salad. More than anything else this season, that felt like it needed another draft or two to really sharpen it up.
The dialogue, though. Whoof. Just drowned the episode in word salad. More than anything else this season, that felt like it needed another draft or two to really sharpen it up.
Hints? I have many criticisms of the episode, but that was harder sci-fi right to its core than either RTD or Moffat would have attempted.
More episode titles and descriptions
Kerblam!
"Delivery for the Doctor!" A mysterious message arrives in a package addressed to the Doctor, leading her, Graham, Yaz and Ryan to investigate the warehouse moon orbiting Kandoka, and the home of the galaxy's largest retailer: Kerblam!
"Delivery for the Doctor!" A mysterious message arrives in a package addressed to the Doctor, leading her, Graham, Yaz and Ryan to investigate the warehouse moon orbiting Kandoka, and the home of the galaxy's largest retailer: Kerblam!
The Witchfinders
The Doctor, Ryan, Graham and Yaz arrive in 17th century Lancashire and become embroiled in a witch trial, run by the local landowner. As fear stalks the land, the arrival of King James I only serves to intensify the witch hunt... But is there something even more dangerous at work? Can the Doctor and friends keep the people of Bilehurst Cragg safe from all the forces that are massing in the land?
The Doctor, Ryan, Graham and Yaz arrive in 17th century Lancashire and become embroiled in a witch trial, run by the local landowner. As fear stalks the land, the arrival of King James I only serves to intensify the witch hunt... But is there something even more dangerous at work? Can the Doctor and friends keep the people of Bilehurst Cragg safe from all the forces that are massing in the land?
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OK these 2 episodes sound fantastic. As does next week's. Hope we are in for a run of great episodes!
Oh, this episode is probably home to the first proper piece of referential fanwank of the Chibnall era? The species the computer UI scrolls through before finding the Pting...
bring back the Ood
bring back the Ood
how is it possible for there to be a picture of one of the Silence in a computer
Don't get me wrong. We had well over a decade of intricately plotted myth building. We had delightful single stories like Cold War or Blink, and exhilarating runs like that from Silence in the Library through to Journey's End.
I've seen series and episodes wax and wane in appreciation in the few years I've hung out on Doctor Who threads here and on the previous forum. I'm confident that this constant change is the only thing we can rely on. Sure, as an individual viewer I'll always show inpatience with offhand dismissal of great characters like Vastra, River Song and Clara. Maybe that sounds a little shrill to some viewers. But in an environment where such denigration has clearly found fertile soil, it seems a bit much to see people immediately pouncing on a popular change of direction with simpler plots and a lower cost of entry. I adored the complex stuff, I love the knowing wink to fan lore, but that doesn't mean I have to hate a new approach.
Episode 7 premise sounds great. 6 sounds 50/50 odds of being fun or naff.
It's possible but pointless
As Tenacious D so memorably explained, "This is not the greatest song in the world. This is just a tribute."
Seconded. Would also be interested in seeing more of the Judoon. They could lend themselves to a timely story about corrupt police officers...
Also, and maybe this is just me, but I want to see the Sontarans return to villain status, though Strax and the Paternoster Gang may have neutered that possibility.
Also, doesn't showing the picture of a Weeping Angel make an Angel?
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Sounds good to me!
I've largely enjoyed the series so far, but the guest writer episodes all sound MUCH more interesting.
Best to ignore that rule outside of Time of Angels.
IIRC, the local time period our Angels and Silents lore comes from is the 52nd Century, so the ability to display them on a computer screen could have advanced in the intervening 1500 years.
Speaking of fanwank, Big Finish is doing a Torchwood Slitheen story of all things.
Maybe we'll get to hear a Slitheen say 'fuck'!!!1
Maybe we'll get to hear a Slitheen say 'fuck'!!!1
Speaking of fanwank, Big Finish is doing a Torchwood Slitheen story of all things.
Maybe we'll get to hear a Slitheen say 'fuck'!!!1
Wait, is that Indira Varma? Ellaria Sand from Game of Thrones, Vivienne from Dragon Age and tons of British dramas? She's awesome.
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It is. She had a recurring part in series 1 of Torchwood, that she's presumably reprising here.
The timeline actually fits quite nicely- she's a member of Torchwood in the time that Margaret's mayor of Cardiff.
EDIT: Wow, they're doing some bonkers stuff with the Torchwood audios- stories with the Fendahl, the Autons, and with Captain Jack teaming up with Jo Grant to fight the giant maggots!
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Chibnall was dipping into some of that old, Hartnell-era educational content. Part of the original pitch in the 60s was that Doctor Who would teach the kids about scientific and historical concepts as part of the adventures.
Yeah, it just finished, I enjoyed this one after last week's.
We're totally eventually going to get a fist bump later with those two and it'll be great, lmao.
I really enjoyed this episode. The creature was interesting. Like I said before I love locations like this and learning about the "worlds" they find themselves in. Again the character interactions are still very strong! That can not at all be easy to do as consistently as this season of Who has done. I can easily see myself rewatching this a few times in the future. Super looking forward to next week's episode.
Got the same feeling. Still marching on but not getting the vibes I'm looking for.
Oh, this episode is probably home to the first proper piece of referential fanwank of the Chibnall era? The species the computer UI scrolls through before finding the Pting...
bring back the Ood
how is it possible for there to be a picture of one of the Silence in a computer
Damn I totally missed this.
Probably my least favorite episode as of yet this season, but I really love Thirteen and her friends so that helps a lot. And yes-I have a feeling we're finally going to get a proper fist bump but my guy tells me it will be a bittersweet moment.
I must admit that I'm not a huge Big Finish fan. For that matter, I'm not a huge fan of Starz.
Agreed on this. We haven't had this kind of full-blown space opera in New Who before- even though some of the dialogue was a bit rough, I still enjoyed the sheer number of ideas being thrown around.
Plus the resolution of the plot was significantly better than last week.
Too much stuff going on so nothing got time to breath - yet still felt like it was dragging on.
The pilot was entirely inconsequential- it's kike we're supposed to think there is this big secret she is hiding but there is no time to develop that so it felt completely hollow. Which then rolled into her final part also lacking weight (literally - supposed to be flying the ship putting a lot of pressure on her but she just stood there looking blank)
The pregnant guy was an ok side plot but basically just there so Ryan could have a random discussion at length about his father in the middle of a space station about to be destroyed. I get they want to have character development so build in moments that allow that - it felt odd. Also the actual pregnant guy was terrible. When introduced it was all flippant like the usual 'oh we are aliens we get pregnant men too!' Fine. But he plays it light and silky throughout but then Ryan projects this father issue stuff and it turns into this emotional bit - But with zero payoff - it's like the pregnant guy just went 'oh ok I'll keep it then'
Realk disappointed - although I liked the alien and the production values on the CG this season are clearly decent. Too much insistence on grounding things or tying back to the companions even when that feels shoehorned in.
Ditch the pointless captain, give more space for the pregnant guy plot to breath so we can actually see he is conflicted etc, play it a bit straighter and it would have been much better IMO
The pilot was entirely inconsequential- it's kike we're supposed to think there is this big secret she is hiding but there is no time to develop that so it felt completely hollow. Which then rolled into her final part also lacking weight (literally - supposed to be flying the ship putting a lot of pressure on her but she just stood there looking blank)
The pregnant guy was an ok side plot but basically just there so Ryan could have a random discussion at length about his father in the middle of a space station about to be destroyed. I get they want to have character development so build in moments that allow that - it felt odd. Also the actual pregnant guy was terrible. When introduced it was all flippant like the usual 'oh we are aliens we get pregnant men too!' Fine. But he plays it light and silky throughout but then Ryan projects this father issue stuff and it turns into this emotional bit - But with zero payoff - it's like the pregnant guy just went 'oh ok I'll keep it then'
Realk disappointed - although I liked the alien and the production values on the CG this season are clearly decent. Too much insistence on grounding things or tying back to the companions even when that feels shoehorned in.
Ditch the pointless captain, give more space for the pregnant guy plot to breath so we can actually see he is conflicted etc, play it a bit straighter and it would have been much better IMO
I've watched every episode this series and for the most part have enjoyed it. What's unfortunate is other than Rosa nothing has particularly wowed me and grabbed my attention.
I remember first watching the Eleventh Hour as my introduction to Doctor Who and being blown away by how good it was. The next two episodes didn't really do much for me but then I watched Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone and I was hooked for life. I'm still waiting for Chibnall's equivalent to this.
I remember first watching the Eleventh Hour as my introduction to Doctor Who and being blown away by how good it was. The next two episodes didn't really do much for me but then I watched Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone and I was hooked for life. I'm still waiting for Chibnall's equivalent to this.
I think that ties into what someone said on the previous page about the P'Ting not feeling very threatening. They're on a ship that is being piloted through an asteroid field by someone who could drop dead at any moment, while a space gremlin is slowly eating all of the critical systems. That situation should be dripping with tension but it's just... not.
Yeah when I saw the alien I immediately thought of Nibbler and burst out laughing.
Pretty meh episode, the alien never felt like as much of a threat as it should have.
Second episode in a row ive turn off before finishing. Ive never done that with any other episode of Dr Who ever. Loved the Rosa episode but everything else this season has been a missive letdown.
I'm currently not feeling great about Chibnall as showrunner. The only episode I've really liked this season so far is Rosa and someone else wrote that one. I find myself losing interest at times during his episodes. Other than Rosa they've been mediocre for me - not very memorable, particularly clever, or emotional. I like Team Tardis though and I can see Jodie is enthusiastically putting her all into the role, so I hope the next few episodes with different writers involved can turn it around for me.
I'm kind of with LL_Decitrig on this - maybe because we are much the same age and both veterans of the original broadcast of An Unearthly Child.
As with every other Doctor, it's taken me a while to settle in. But I'm rather liking that we've got Doctor-as-Everyman rather than Doctor-as-Superman, and travelogue rather than timey-wimey, and ensemble rather than pull-along companion, and slow character stuff rather than flashbangs all the time. It feels comfortably old-fashioned to me.
As with every other Doctor, it's taken me a while to settle in. But I'm rather liking that we've got Doctor-as-Everyman rather than Doctor-as-Superman, and travelogue rather than timey-wimey, and ensemble rather than pull-along companion, and slow character stuff rather than flashbangs all the time. It feels comfortably old-fashioned to me.