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offshore

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Back when Driver was good :(

Such a shame what happened to that series... even if I did like D2.
 

delete12345

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At what point do Wii, Wii U, PS3, Xbox 360, and Nintendo DS family be counted as "legacy consoles" that will be tracked by NPD?
 
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No Tomb Raider or Resident Evil for Playstation?

Tomb Raider sold well but is a bit outside the top 10.

NPD seems to track Resident Evil and Directors Cut separately so that's why it's not high up. If you combine them it still falls outside the top 10.
 

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out of the 20 games on playstation classic, only 3 games are on that list. further proof of how terrible the game selection for ps classic is.
 

brinstar

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Man just reading all those titles is a throwback. So many memories lol
 

Aadiboy

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Comparing this to the PS4 and Xbox One lists, I wish gamer's tastes went back to that era, tbh.
 

Kill3r7

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The lack of sports games in the top 10 for PS1/N64 is always jarring whenever I see one of these charts.
 

Danthrax

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Whilst all the games on the PS1 and N64 lists are million sellers. Dreamcast only had one million seller and no Saturn game could even get to half a million.

Is Madden on Saturn at least close to half a million?

Speaking of Madden on Saturn, I think it's telling that Madden 97 (released in 1996) is at the top of the list, but Madden 98 (from 1997) didn't even make the top 10. (There was no Madden on Saturn in 1995, BTW.) Shows that people gave the Saturn the time of day in 1995 and 1996 but abandoned it in a hurry in 1997, resulting in not more than a handful of games releasing in 1998 before dying off completely.
 

Sidewinder

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Dem Crash niche Games, right?

Lol, I knew they were successful, but didn't think they were THAT successful.
 

jroc74

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I'm a little surprised football games take the top spots on the Sega consoles. It was huge on the Genesis and I guess these charts show that audience stuck with Sega, at least to some extent.
Yup.

I know Madden played better on Sega consoles before the PlayStation came out.
 

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Nice to see that. I knew Shadows of the Empire sold well but didn't expect it in the top 10.
I wonder how the GBC games were counted as some worked on regular GB.
Dat Virtua Fighter in the top 3.
 

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6 of the 10 are tied up in licensing issues, even if Sony originally published them on PS1.
right, but some people were actually defending that lineup as a good representation of what people were playing on theie consoles back in the day, rather than what it actually is, which is whatever they could get.
 
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I made this mistake at first but those list makes sense when you remember this is in the US only..right?
Right.

right, but some people were actually defending that lineup as a good representation of what people were playing on theie consoles back in the day, rather than what it actually is, which is whatever they could get.
So basically, only games that sold really well should be on the PS Classic?
 

Saint-14

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right, but some people were actually defending that lineup as a good representation of what people were playing on theie consoles back in the day, rather than what it actually is, which is whatever they could get.
People played other games that aren't in the top 10 too, it's ridiculous to even imply that people only care about theses games.
 

Phediuk

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Unit sales version (from an old NPD megathread on the other site):

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One of the main differences in the PS1 list is Frogger, which was a gigantic seller thanks to being sold at $10 (at a time when no other games were selling for that low a price.) FF7 is somewhat lower here (#10, mistakenly listed twice), indicating that it held its value for a long time.

Note that the N64 list is almost identical to the revenue list since N64 discounts were neither as frequent nor as deep as on the Playstation.
 
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jett

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Unit sales version (from an old NPD megathread on the other site):

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One of the main differences in the PS1 list is Frogger, which was a gigantic seller thanks to being sold at $10 (at a time when no other games were selling for that low a price.) FF7 is somewhat lower here (#10, mistakenly listed twice), indicating that it held its value for a long time.

Either these old-ass consoles kept on selling way beyond their expiration date or NPD adjusted their figures I guess. From 2003:

N64 SUPER MARIO 64 5,943,556
N64 GOLDENEYE 007 5,019,092
N64 MARIO KART 64 4,796,623
N64 ZELDA: OCARINA TIME 3,543,388
N64 SUPER SMASH BROTHERS 2,546,810
N64 POKEMON STADIUM 2,501,915
N64 DIDDY KONG RACING 2,500,609
N64 DONKEY KONG 64 2,336,132
N64 POKEMON SNAP 1,916,105
N64 STAR FOX 64 W/RMBL PK 1,903,652

PSX GRAN TURISMO RACING 3,251,557
PSX CRASH BANDICOOT 2 3,100,190
PSX GRAN TURISMO 2 3,056,883
PSX CRASH BANDICOOT WARP 3,006,691
PSX FROGGER 2,948,059
PSX CRASH BANDICOOT 2,741,213
PSX SPYRO THE DRAGON 2,726,288
PSX TEKKEN 3 2,681,372
PSX TONY HAWKS PRO SKATR2 2,628,911
PSX DRIVER 2,613,706
 

Phediuk

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Either these old-ass consoles kept on selling way beyond their expiration date or NPD adjusted their figures I guess. From 2003:

N64 SUPER MARIO 64 5,943,556
N64 GOLDENEYE 007 5,019,092
N64 MARIO KART 64 4,796,623
N64 ZELDA: OCARINA TIME 3,543,388
N64 SUPER SMASH BROTHERS 2,546,810
N64 POKEMON STADIUM 2,501,915
N64 DIDDY KONG RACING 2,500,609
N64 DONKEY KONG 64 2,336,132
N64 POKEMON SNAP 1,916,105
N64 STAR FOX 64 W/RMBL PK 1,903,652

PSX GRAN TURISMO RACING 3,251,557
PSX CRASH BANDICOOT 2 3,100,190
PSX GRAN TURISMO 2 3,056,883
PSX CRASH BANDICOOT WARP 3,006,691
PSX FROGGER 2,948,059
PSX CRASH BANDICOOT 2,741,213
PSX SPYRO THE DRAGON 2,726,288
PSX TEKKEN 3 2,681,372
PSX TONY HAWKS PRO SKATR2 2,628,911
PSX DRIVER 2,613,706

I was still seeing new PS1 games in some places in 2006, albeit mostly in the bargain bins. And the NPD does indeed adjust their data from time to time.
 

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So basically, only games that sold really well should be on the PS Classic?
People played other games tat aren't in the top 10 too, it's ridiculous to even imply that people only care about theses games.
i didn't say that only these games are the ones that made ps1 a classic consoles, just saying in that thread many people were overlooking the fact that a lot of those games weren't really deserving of the classic title, or in some cases (rainbow six) were just bad games. if a console is going to remind people of the awesome times they had with it and the good games it had, makes sense to include more of the popular games. some of the games in the lineup are even missing from the top 74(!) best selling list:
 

Vaser

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Unit sales version (from an old NPD megathread on the other site):

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One of the main differences in the PS1 list is Frogger, which was a gigantic seller thanks to being sold at $10 (at a time when no other games were selling for that low a price.) FF7 is somewhat lower here (#10, mistakenly listed twice), indicating that it held its value for a long time.

No Silent Hill? That's crazy.
 

kswiston

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I was still seeing new PS1 games in some places in 2006, albeit mostly in the bargain bins. And the NPD does indeed adjust their data from time to time.

Based on the fact that the charts in the OP are through last month, the stuff you posted can't be right. Was that for more than just the US?
 

julian

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That Saturn list is so sad, but expected. The majority of those games released within its first year.
 

abrack

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Shocked about all the Crash in the PS1 top 10. Obviously knew it was a popular game, but not THAT popular. I never owned it, and I don't remember any of my friends ever talking about playing it either. I knew more people playing FF7, MGS, Gran Turismo etc. obviously but even stuff like Spyro seemed bigger to me.
 

J2C

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Yeah, 2 things to note. Crash has 3 titles in the top 10. Never realised it was that popular.
Also Goldeneye above Kart and Zelda is just insanity.

Goldeneye was massive back then. Massive. Probably the earliest shooter to break through I could remember, with an intriguing single-player mode. Everyone talked about it on the schoolyard

Driver meanwhile was the predecessor to the market GTA would take over. Me and friends used to say "the perfect game would be Driver combined with GTA".

And the 2K games were huge leaps for sports games. NFL2K shot out like a rocket, and created this anticipation for anything in the 2K line after it, the NBA coming next. Visually they were a huge leap, and the animation and gameplay were solid. It was an exciting time
 
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SolidSnakex

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Driver is really one of the biggest "what ifs" moments in gaming. Driver 2 was just far too ambitious for the PSone. They should've went right into developing it for the PS2. But instead Rockstar got there first and Driver literally became a punchline (Two-Faced Tanner).
 

nekomix

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Yu-Gi-Oh! Dark Duel in the top 10 on GBC ?!! I've just spat my drink, I knew shit was big in the beginning of 2000s, I still have that game but THAT big...
 

Phediuk

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Fuck it may as well post the 6th-generation unit sales (not revenue) charts here too. These are both for the US only.

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I had a Gamecube one too, let me see if I can find it.