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BurntFoot

Banned
Apr 10, 2018
2,204
One of those parties supports the right of black folks to vote. (even if you decide not to make use of it) That alone makes them worth voting for so you can pick the "I choose not to vote"-thing up again in the future and have it be a choice you make rather than something that got forced upon you.
Sorry, I'm done with the democratic plantation.

I refuse to accept that black empowerment is in the hands of white liberals.
 

Cipherr

Member
Oct 26, 2017
13,438
Sorry, I'm done with the democratic plantation.

I refuse to accept that black empowerment is in the hands of white liberals.


Then do the rest of us a favor and be "done with these threads too" you don't have shit to offer in any of them anyway. So just ignore them and go the hell away.

"Democratic Plantation" nigga please...
 

CannonballB

Member
Oct 27, 2017
364
Pahonix
BUT YOU GUSY! BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME!

I have a coworker that I used to love and when he pulled this off, I lost so much respect for him. :( Then he tried to tell me that moving from N. PHX to S. PHX was the same as relocating your family from the middle of Iowa to a larger city where there are jobs. In every other way I love him, but when it comes to politics, he's definitely got the "fuck you, got mine" attitude. He admitted it flat out. He's a tool. It pains me so much :(
 

Deleted member 11046

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
942
Sorry, I'm done with the democratic plantation.

I refuse to accept that black empowerment is in the hands of white liberals.
Noted.

You're actively engaged in this thread and the Obama one, so you clearly want your voice to be heard. What are you trying to say with it? From where should black empowerment spring from, BurntFoot? What's your solution?
 

Driggonny

Member
Oct 26, 2017
2,170
Honestly, I know a lot of minority individuals that don't vote and the last thing I want to do is act like I'm better than them since we all have our own struggles. Disenfranchisement and the lack of a sense of efficacy is a hell of a pacifier.
 

Deleted member 22490

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
9,237
Vote or die

I'd love to vote, but once upon a time in my not so good days, I got caught with a dime of heroin. Now I have no voice.

You still have a voice. Literally, you can still use speech to advocate for things even though you cannot participate in an election. You can organize and push for things locally. Voting is not the only method of political expression.
 

Wein Cruz

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
5,772
Noted.

You're actively engaged in this thread and the Obama one, so you clearly want your voice to be heard. What are you trying to say with it? From where should black empowerment spring from, BurntFoot? What's your solution?

Apparently their solution is to complain on message boards and do fuck all else.
 

BurntFoot

Banned
Apr 10, 2018
2,204
Noted.

You're actively engaged in this thread and the Obama one, so you clearly want your voice to be heard. What are you trying to say with it? From where should black empowerment spring from, BurntFoot? What's your solution?
Group economics with a robust social program promoting collective organization aptitude. We need our own PACs so that we'll have politicians on a leash. When we vote we will do so as free agents, only giving our vote to those who have promised certain demands. Empty rhetoric (like we see with Beto) won't sway us.
 

Double 0

Member
Nov 5, 2017
7,449
Sorry, I'm done with the democratic plantation.

I refuse to accept that black empowerment is in the hands of white liberals.

I'd rather we take over the Dems. Right now, we are their best asset anyway. Might as well take that leverage and make it work for us.

The PAC idea sounds decent on paper, but I think having more black dems winning out and making sure they remember who their base is looks like a more immediate solution to me.
 

Radd Redd

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,010
Sorry, I'm done with the democratic plantation.

I refuse to accept that black empowerment is in the hands of white liberals.
Hey, Obama was president. I never thought I would see a black president in my lifetime. I'm voting for the democrats in my area to at least stop what the current administration can do for the next two years. Do you though I guess.
 

Caz

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
13,055
Canada
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BurntFoot

Banned
Apr 10, 2018
2,204
User banned: (3 Days) Racism, Barack Obama identifies as African America.
Hey, Obama was president. I never thought I would see a black president in my lifetime. I'm voting for the democrats in my area to at least stop what the current administration can do for the next two years. Do you though I guess.
Obama is mixed, not black. Let's stop with the one drop rule which is rooted in racism.
 

jay

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,275
So we circle jerked about voting and called anyone who doesn't want to a troll or moron. What's left to be done here?
 

Aaron

I’m seeing double here!
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,077
Minneapolis
Group economics with a robust social program promoting collective organization aptitude. We need our own PACs so that we'll have politicians on a leash. When we vote we will do so as free agents, only giving our vote to those who have promised certain demands. Empty rhetoric (like we see with Beto) won't sway us.
cool

well I can see you're clearly busy getting that started
 

VeePs

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 25, 2017
17,369
If you don't vote you simply don't care and are happy with the way things are currently. That's it.
 

sleepnaught

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
4,538
I'd vote, but I missed the deadline to register. Either way, its 100% guaranteed to go Republican straight down the ticket where I live. That's the reality in most of the country. Far too few districts are ever competitive.
 

Deleted member 11046

User requested account closure
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Oct 27, 2017
942
Group economics with a robust social program promoting collective organization aptitude.
This is a little vague. I don't understand what you're saying here and I'd rather not make assumptions. Can you elaborate?

We need our own PACs so that we'll have politicians on a leash. When we vote we will do so as free agents, only giving our vote to those who have promised certain demands. Empty rhetoric (like we see with Beto) won't sway us.
Are there any negative consequences you think the black community will incur by abstaining from voting in the meantime, BurntFoot?
 
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Syriel

Banned
Dec 13, 2017
11,088
Neither political part is willing to do shot for black folks. I ain't voting until my demands are met.

Encourages people to stay home and not vote.

Obama is mixed, not black. Let's stop with the one drop rule which is rooted in racism.

Denies the racial identity of a man because he's not racially pure enough for your taste.

You don't even know me in the real world.

You're right. We don't know you in the "real world," but we do know of people in the real world who espouse the same views you've posted here. And they don't have an appealing vision for the future of this country.
 

Scheris

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,383
My mother and I will be voting, but my father is one of those "all politicians are corrupt" people who doesn't vote since it "won't matter".

(Ironically he was previously a Trumper, got annoyed at all the stupid stuff on Twitter/IRL he's done as how he hasn't made his life (middle-income white man) better through policies. But then he non-votes which is basically the same as supporting said policies. >.>)
 

Terrell

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,624
Canada
Group economics with a robust social program promoting collective organization aptitude. We need our own PACs so that we'll have politicians on a leash. When we vote we will do so as free agents, only giving our vote to those who have promised certain demands. Empty rhetoric (like we see with Beto) won't sway us.
This all sounds perfectly well and good, but until it's up and running, your lack of a vote has the opportunity to hand this to conservative politicians that will work hard to make your life worse.

I'm a technocratic socialist who abhors first-past-the-post voting systems, none of the choices listen to me and the method of voting is inherently a disservice to me and everyone else. And unlike yourself, I don't have a huge population backing me up. But until others catch up to my step and I have the numbers or work towards having the power to change things, I have to do SOMETHING that makes a dent, and that means voting. Because doing nothing until things are set up the way you want them means that until then, you leave everything in the hands of people who don't give a shit what you want whatsoever and could actively undermine your efforts to reshape things.
 
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Deleted member 19813

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Oct 28, 2017
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Everybody I know that didn't vote Trump in 2016 are all voting Red now. This is a lot of AA and Hispanic people, too.
 

Soundscream

Member
Nov 2, 2017
9,234
Obama is mixed, not black. Let's stop with the one drop rule which is rooted in racism.[/Q6UOTE]
This such a fucked up view of what being black in America is. It ranges from people from the Caribbean, Afro Latinos, people from African countries or those of us who are the decendants of slaves many of us who are mixed through rape or mixed pairings for 100s of years. My mother and brother are both lighter skinned then Obama, yet we dont have any white people in our heritege for 4 generations.

So you can take your paper bag test for purity and be gone.
 
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Deleted member 11046

User requested account closure
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Oct 27, 2017
942
Obama is mixed, not black. Let's stop with the one drop rule which is rooted in racism.
I know Burnt is already banned, but this is a ridiculous point. The average African American genome is nearly30% European. That Barack Obama has mixed ancestry is something he shares with African Americans who descended from slaves; It doesn't set him apart from us. "Mixed, not black" is a remark that reveals Burnt's startling ignorance of the history of his own people; In his book, none of us would qualify.

https://www.theroot.com/exactly-how-black-is-black-america-1790895185
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2014/12/genetic-study-reveals-surprising-ancestry-many-americans
https://psmag.com/news/how-slavery-changed-the-dna-of-african-americans
 

Jpop

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,655
I'd vote, but I missed the deadline to register. Either way, its 100% guaranteed to go Republican straight down the ticket where I live. That's the reality in most of the country. Far too few districts are ever competitive.

That's a pretty poor excuse. I can't vote because I couldn't bother to register on time.
 

Glory

Alt-Account
Banned
Oct 9, 2018
187
I'm a solutions oriented guy, look above.

The idea that voting is the way to bring about change is indicative of a slave mentality tbh. We dishonour the ancestors with that nonsense.

This is what the left eating the left looks like ladies and gents. No early voting in NJ best I can tell. Will be checking down the D list come Nov 6.
 

uhnomoli

Member
Oct 29, 2017
127
Ok, I'll finally bite. I'm 28, I've never voted in my life. I have no plans to ever vote. I abstain under all circumstances, not just when it comes to politics. In my opinion, voting is the epitome of the illusion of choice. If someone can convince me that my one vote, in a vacuum, has any significant impact on the outcome, I will vote. The only argument I've ever been presented with basically equates to voting as an act of campaigning.

For the record, this scenario is targeted at those asking me to vote (as this thread is), not those asking me to campaign.
 

Jpop

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,655
Ok, I'll finally bite. I'm 28, I've never voted in my life. I have no plans to ever vote. I abstain under all circumstances, not just when it comes to politics. In my opinion, voting is the epitome of the illusion of choice. If someone can convince me that my one vote, in a vacuum, has any significant impact on the outcome, I will vote. The only argument I've ever been presented with basically equates to voting as an act of campaigning.

For the record, this scenario is targeted at those asking me to vote (as this thread is), not those asking me to campaign.

This is some shitty logic that shows you don't understand what it takes to affect change in a government.

Yeah your vote means nothing if you don't vote. Gladly some people actually want change.

It's also no ones job to educate or convince you. You have access to the internet it isn't hard to find out how important voting is.
 

The Adder

Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,121
Ok, I'll finally bite. I'm 28, I've never voted in my life. I have no plans to ever vote. I abstain under all circumstances, not just when it comes to politics. In my opinion, voting is the epitome of the illusion of choice. If someone can convince me that my one vote, in a vacuum, has any significant impact on the outcome, I will vote. The only argument I've ever been presented with basically equates to voting as an act of campaigning.

For the record, this scenario is targeted at those asking me to vote (as this thread is), not those asking me to campaign.
"It is preferable to me that I am assured I am making no difference with my lack of a vote than it is that I vote and likely make no difference."

Elections have been one and lost on as few as thirteen people who thought like you not showing up. Less, even.