At least they paid for the tickets. The ones that stayed at home are the really entitled ones.
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At least they paid for the tickets. The ones that stayed at home are the really entitled ones.
Man, some of the industry journalists really don't like people being critical/slightly satirical
https://imgur.com/a/ObaTbff
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/9tuyii/check_out_what_gaming_journalists_are_saying/
Basically, everyone complaining or saying anything negative is just an entitled manbaby.
Fair comment
Fucking folks off their rocks running to Twitter to try and make this a... gender issue? Wut?
https://imgur.com/a/ObaTbff
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/9tuyii/check_out_what_gaming_journalists_are_saying/
Basically, everyone complaining or saying anything negative is just an entitled manbaby.
Fair comment
Fucking folks off their rocks running to Twitter to try and make this a... gender issue? Wut?
The respectful way to show your disapproval as a gamer is to suck up your feelings and opinions, give it a half hearted clap, and then remain quiet now and forever. Anything else is toxic. /s
I agree with this. I don't care about the mobile game, I hope people find it fun. I just don't think you can end a stage show, in front of a crowd like this, with a mobile game. Gotta know your audience.
I totally agree with your edit.
"Diablo mobile" as a sort of nebulous concept had people skeptical, but depending on how it actually turned out it could have been something that people got excited about. What we actually got just looks like a Diablo 3 skin on a fairly generic mobile action game. Even people who were expecting a mobile game ended up disappointed.
If you're letting the hype get to you so hard that you're actively pissed off over a game announcement the only person to blame is yourself.
This shit and the whole Smash leak fiasco makes wonder why devs even bother to engage with communities if this is the type reaction that happens when people choose to not check their own hype.
It's amazing that Diablo fans are that upset about people thinking the reaction to a mobile game is kind of wack that they have to make an image board style collage of games media tweets lmfao
Big mad
Extremely tone-deaf to not end with this one. Do they... not realize who actually shows up to these things?
It's starting to border on Charlie from Its Always Sunny, but some of those takes are indeed really hot. Like thinking you're being totally clued up on your own industry to simply correlate all negativity/slightly cheeky chab to everyone hates women, anyone who plays mobile games and they must be evil entitled manchildren.
Is there some crossover? Sure. But is this what's going to happen if there is pushback to the possible Diablo 4 RMAH? Every fan being critical or unhappy is simply manchild? My work here is done!
People were hoping for a Diablo to play normally.
Not saying mobile is all bad, but it's definitely different.
I think focusing on the method people show their displeasure rather than the actual issue misses the point pretty much completely. And comparing the release of a game on a platform you don't like to overt and blatant racism is extremely problematic, especially in the context of "gamer culture", were people tend to take shit too far, often with rather horrible results.
I personally think there's nothing terribly wrong in booing a multibillion dollar company that is trying to sell you shit that you don't like, but I think you can get that point across without going where you went.
He didn't properly answer most of those questions. If he can't answer with a yes or no, he's obscuring the fact that no one will like the real answer.
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It's sad really. pressing the dislike button is now a form of man baby entitlement. God forbid someone speak up that they don't like it. A lot of the "well you can disagree but be respectful" post are to control a narrative. It honestly reminds me of how Kaepernick kneeling in the NFL was seen as the extreme disrespect by some folks and he had to do it the "correct" way when their was nothing inflammatory about hat he did in the first place.
I'm not saying it's not happening, I think most people understand it's most likely happening, but the fact is they didn't announce it officially. Bethesda threw together a 30secs teaser trailer showing some mountains to announce that they were in fact working on TESVI even though they had jack to show for it(not even the place it'll take place in, although fans analyzed the trailer to figure that out to an extent). Game isn't even planned for 2020. But Blizzard did not do this. Maybe because they do cancel games. Starcraft: Ghost and Project Titan come to mind especially, since those were very well known too, and yet neither ended up existing in the end.
Just saying, if they did announced D4 is being worked on, with a quickly thrown together trailer just showing Diablo IV and some Diablo silouhette in the dark or whatever, after the mobile announcement, people would have been "eh, at least we got D4, mobile sucks but whatever". But they didn't do anything, and that's why they're getting crucified. Especially since the mobile game isn't even like, a port of D3 or D2 remake in a PC/mobile simultaneous release or something like that, it's an oversimplified mobile designed game with Diablo IP slapped on it. It might be fun for all we know, and not be crippled by microtransaction shit, but they also didn't bother talking about that to reassure the few people who might be interested in the mobile game either.
Sucks for Wyatt Cheng too, guy turned D3 around in my opinion from a fairly mediocre game to a pretty fun game but I think a lot of people are going to remember him now as the guy who was somehow "as bad as Jay Wilson".
That's nuts. I know part of the job of a gaming "journalist" is acting as a corporate apologist (lest you wind up blackballed by publishers), but these people are outright attacking the fans for exercising their rights as consumers to be dissatisfied with a subpar product/service and to voice that concern.
"Smash leak fiasco" because a lot of people didn't like the direct. I personally loved it but I'm not pretending like some small minority being unreasonable is a "fiasco". And yes, I specifically say unreasonable, because simply not liking what was being shown isn't being unreasonable, nor is being dissatisfied with the closer of Blizzcon being a mobile game.
These companies have entire departments to foster that hype, have people make psychological studies and whatnot. If you really want to blame all of this on the consumer you don't have that much of a clue regarding this I'm affraid.
You and others here seem to happily conflate dissatisfaction and voicing that with anger, hate and malice for some reason.
They got to keep their press kits and swag coming.
As others have said probably better than I have, this whole thing could've probably been saved with a just a one minute cinematic of the Diablo IV logo with fire in the background saying something like "now in development." People still would've been pissed but I think it might've softened the blow.
Can we not do the whole "everything bad Blizzard does is Activsion's fault and everything good is Blizzard's fault" thing again?
If the reactions were tears of happiness wouldn't that also be people letting the hype go too far? Because I never see these kinds of complaints when people get emotional in the way that sells copies. Its a product of the same hype.
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This seems to be an offshoot concern, NetEase. As many in the Diablo community are saying, even if it was a Diablo mobile game handled with love and care
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/9ts6mw/feedback_from_a_chinese_gamer_about_netease/
Pig farm, lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/9ts6mw/feedback_from_a_chinese_gamer_about_netease/
Pig farm, lol.
Every single word in those tweets is accurate. "Exercising their right to voice their concern"? Sure, but I can also exercise my right to voice the entitlement, pettiness, nastiness, childish and disrespectful nature of how those "concerns" were voiced. This has nothing o do with consumer "rights" and everything to do with the fact that 95% of the comments I've seen have been nasty, derogatory, hateful, and downright repulsive towards the devs. These shitty comments shouldn't be condoned, encouraged, and validated- like you seem to want them to be. It's children throwing a hissy fit in the most pathetic way possible.
Don't mean to make it sound like Blizzard was some pure thing before the merger, but the mobile announcement was such a tone deaf thing it's amazing that they didn't see that reaction coming.
Let's remember this is just a video game and not someone fighting for equal rights.
This game will do just fine with its intended audience I'm sure.
It was a bad idea to announce it to an audience of your hardest of hardcore fans at your once a year event. I understand the predisposition to believe that the people at this event might be 'drinking the Koolaid' and open to any product you put out, but they definitely aren't if it doesn't fit a predefined set of expectations.
It was a bad idea to announce it to an audience of your hardest of hardcore fans at your once a year event. I understand the predisposition to believe that the people at this event might be 'drinking the Koolaid' and open to any product you put out, but they definitely aren't if it doesn't fit a predefined set of expectations.
true. lets not forget Artifact had the exact same reaction and turned out pretty good.
Anyone that is paying to learn immediately public information is a moron. Maybe people go to cons for other reasons? Possibly?
So everyone on NeoGAF was entitled when they ridiculed, satirised and made jokes at the expense of MS around the Xbox One DRM?
Often banter will be used to express disappointment. If it's mild enough in nature lets stop acting like multi-billionaire companies truly get hurt feelings. Yes, people work at these companies, but it's an industry where you make money off of fans, not just faceless and voiceless entities dumping their paychecks your way.
We've even reached mulling over if using the dislike feature on YT is like some act of aggression.
Its dumb to paint this as a 'toxic gamer' thing, when in reality its just a human thing. Diablo fan base is overwhelmingly PC based, why would they think making a mobile game a top billing at their giant enthusiast convention was a good idea. Journalists don't want to criticize big developers for risk of them pulling their ads from the site, or blackballed. This is why gaming journalism is a joke, it is castrated by corporations and honestly just PR.
It's a sad state of affairs when "tech journos" are calling unhappy costumers angry manchildren. I'm sure they could adapt a more corporate shill kinda style if they had their blizzcon ticket + plane and hotel paid for like these entitled journos.
Honestly, as much as I would love a PC/console Diablo game those comments are pathetic. When will people stop shitting about stupid reasons??? Nothing implies that if it wasn't for this game we would have gotten a console version.
Citation needed.
You are conflating the small minority who are taking advantage of this situation to be shitheads and people that are just disappointed and upset. Throwing around the "children" insult really does nothing to help the situation and makes you look just as much the bad guy in all of this.
Could be a shitty con when you see all of those sad faces of Diablo-themed cosplayers around you or that nonexistent line to the gaming franchise you hold dear.
Glad to see all concerns about predatory monetization go out the fucking window when its a mobile game
If you don't care about what your community thinks, that speaks more than any comment ever could. Blizzard fucked up on all fronts here.
Valve was smart enough to pair the Artifact announcement with the announcement of two new heroes for Dota2.true. lets not forget Artifact had the exact same reaction and turned out pretty good.
Which completely overshadowed the artifact reaction.
Clicking the dislike button seems the right amount of effort for a videogame. Writing death threats otoh, that's dumb.