You know this is a super inside baseball subject? Most gamers don't even know GG existed. Those who would know would be in the hardcore camp since it requires some interest in gaming beyond playing games--reading about games and gaming culture.
No, you don't care who has been hurt by gamers - it's always "small minority" , except it's not. It's happened again and again and again. Face the problem or don't, but don't have a go at people for daring to bring it up. It's real and calling something sexist or racist or homophobic or transphobic is not "bad behaviour". I will continue to bring up the problem with the giant umbrella of "gamers" til they actually do something about it.
"Why don't people wanna call themselves gamers? Just call yourself a gamer. "
Yea every word that came before that spelled that out pretty clearly there champ.
"Why don't people wanna call themselves gamers? Just call yourself a gamer. "
Why do you think you know the numbers?? It's always downplayed - if it really is a few, the big incidents wouldn't happen as the "majority" would kick them out. I'll say it again, most gamers are apathetic at best to minorities getting attacked, at worse are doing the attacking.
Why are you? That's not a relevant point if you don't have a real-life ratio, which I'm going to assume is only supposed to be in regards to GG anyway.
You could end it at 1000 is too many.
Don't be an ass and presume to speak on someone you don't know just because they post often.
And yet here you are speaking on it
Given how you choose to dismiss this person and tell her to "live in the real world" I'm doubting the validity of your last sentence.
Again, this is most people. Don't be blinded by the fact that's is a hot topic beyond more dedicated communities.
I don't any woman that games honestly. I barely know adult men that game. I think I can count 1 in a circle of plus 20 male friends and associates. And he's not on forums or anything like that. Nor does he play online. No one is really on forums these days. Forums are niche.
It's not hard to work out what women's experiences in gaming are - you have to be actively ignoring women not to hear it. Ignorance is just being apathetic at this point
How about you educate yourself on gamergate then before dismissing others' reasoning based from it. I'll do the work for you and give you a primer.
The toxicity of the gaming community didn't start with gamergate fam.
Because you can't separate the good and the bad from the subcultures you opt to partake in, and individual actions and thoughts don't address these on-going problems.
Because it is the whole gaming community -it's part of it, if you don't want it to be part of it, do something about it, don't have a go at the people who point it out.
Yeah it cannot be stressed enough that these issues have existed well before GamerGate, which I would argue is a symptom of the subculture's probelms and not a root cause like people are seemingly trying to present it ITT by focusing the conversation around it. GG gained traction in part by how long this boys' club mentality has persisted. Seeing gaming becoming more openly inclusive (even if in baby steps) is shaking up the status quo and causing those white boys who were used to gaming being "their" thing to throw temper tantrums and ramp up their bigotry in a public way.
Yeah, I'm not getting that argument. You can say the same things about religious communities. Some are rather regressive and even downright lethal and abusive. While others are genuinely committed to helping the poor, oppressed and so on, even within the same religion.
Both of these things are part of gaming subculture. You take the good as a wholesale and say the bad is just this separate thing over there.
So people that ignore the issues and go on with their day are the good guys?
