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ValiantChaos

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
1,112
It would be a fantastic result given what we're up against. Only 9 Republicans are up for election compared to 26 Democrats, and several of those Democrats represent heavily Republican states.

Since the House has all of its seats up at the same time, it's more susceptible to drastic swings, whereas the Senate is deliberately set up so that the overall composition won't change much from election to election. It wasn't even an elected body originally, Senators were appointed by governors until the early 1900s.

Actually the legislature appointed/elected the Senators.
 

Ithil

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,365
It was pointed out in the Texas thread, but if Cruz loses to Beto, it's very likely Beto would be the 51st Dem in the Senate (from AZ/NV going D and ND going R), so Cruz would not only be the Republican that lost Texas, but also the Republican that lost the Senate.
Can't think of a better career ender for that asshole.
 

Ouroboros

Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,956
United States
My wife and I bought the most delicious of pizzas during the presidential election and since have not bought from that place because of horrible memories.

Tuesday we will once again buy the same pizzas in hopes to wipe away any bad memories and enjoy that silicosis pizza once more.
 
Oct 26, 2017
7,956
South Carolina
It feels wierd this is so close, and having more and more good news that points at America throwing off the yoke of anti-humanity, anti-rule of law, anti-ethics, anti-democracy, anti-morality, anti-competancy 24/7 shitshow is both relieving but also kind of scary.

This is it folks. Despite ~45 seats flipping in the pregame show that is specials, that message has not sunk in yet. This will be a mortal wound for Trumpism and the corruption, brinksmanship, and pettiness that funded, trained, conned, and degenerated that idiotic stain of an "ideology" into the body politic. We are OVER this. Now and to 2020 and beyond!
 

Dean

Member
Oct 27, 2017
96
I stopped by an Andy Levin office earlier today around 6 pm to try to get some yard signs for Whitmer and Stabenow. It was closed even though Gretchen's website said all of the democratic field offices were open until 9. I ended up going to a state house candidate's office to get the signs, and that office had four or five people making calls the whole time I was there. I actually don't think I've seen a single Andy Levin ad on tv since the primary. I am going to be very pissed if Andy somehow manages to lose this race because he assumed his last name was all he needed.
 

Killthee

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,168
Is there a decent voter guide for Southern California that isn't for Los Angeles or San Diego? onethat covers judges would be nice.
I wasn't able to find a good comprehensive source for judges. Some places endorsed a few candidates, while omitting the other 10 in my ballot and most places just skipped commenting on judges. I ended up going to the republican voters guide for judges and voting the opposite to what they recommended.


Republican recommendations: https://judgevoterguide.com/
 

Smylie

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,888
Oregon
There is no good one. The only way to be a check on Trumps racism fascist policies is voting Democrat.

That's it. The only options this election up and down the ballot is a vote for a Democrats to be a check on Trump or a vote for Trump.

There is no option c here. You voting for or against Trump. That's it.


You like fascist dictator worshiping idiots who hold racist views and pushing racist policies? Then vote Huggins.

Just remember voting against the Dem nominee puts everything Trump does on your shoulders. As he is very much possibly going to be the deciding vote in who controls the senate if he won.

This whole post is so good and true, it deserves a bump.
 
Oct 26, 2017
7,956
South Carolina
This whole post is so good and true, it deserves a bump.

Yeah, the thing that doesn't get seen cuz we're in the middle of it as it happens is that American politics has gotten rather "parliamentarian" in that we vote increasingly for a party to control a position than for people so vote splitting is rarer now.

And it should be, cuz as Cheebo pointed out, Nurgle of the Oval Office IS the GOP now. No backtalk allowed. No pesky spines, or morals, or ethics, or even most Conservative ideology is allowed. Just ask that sad sack Ryan with the fresh new dagger sticking out of his back or the once-respectable senators spewing conspiracy theories that got people killed less than a week ago: That snarling mass of pathology, mob connections, and incompetancy IS the party now.

That party must die. It is beyond saving.
 

Killthee

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,168
If Republicans get minority in the senate would that be good result for you guys. sorry i don't know much about american politics.
If the Democrats win back the senate, they'll have final say on the cabinet and judicial appointments trump makes. Right now with the Republicans in control the president pretty much has a blank check on who he nominates for these positions. His party tends to go along with whoever he nominates no matter how corrupt or unqualified they are for the positions. With Dems in the majority they would have control over the hearings for these positions, they would decide whether to bring them up to a vote or not, and they could just block the president till he begins nominating qualified people. If another Supreme Court Justice dies or retires in the next 2 years, the party in control of the Senate will decide whether Trump is the one who picks the replacement or the president that follows.
 

Naijaboy

The Fallen
Mar 13, 2018
15,246
I would like to add one more thing. Some minor positions need to be have some light shed on as they have a great of an influence as some of the national races.

Prosecutors (DA, state attorney, etc)

Jefferson Co., AL (Birmingham)
Marin Co., CA (San Rafael)
Cumberland Co. (≈Portland), ME
Berkshire County, MA
Suffolk County (≈Boston), MA
Plymouth, MA
Hennepin Co., MN (Minneapolis)
Tulsa Co., OK
Payne and Logan counties, OK (Stillwater and Guthrie respectively)
Bexar Co., TX (The asshole incumbent already got primary'd so it's just the matter of beating the Republican)
Dallas Co., TX
Salt Lake, UT
Bennington Co., VT
King Co. (≈Seattle), WA

Sheriffs

This is mostly to stop sheriffs from cooperating with ICE

LA County (Seriously? You guys haven't had a D sheriff in over 100 years?!)
Orange Co., CA (Will probably determine how well the Dems are doing in that county)
Hillsborough, FL (Don't trust the incumbent just because he got cozy with the Dems there. Having a guy like that in Tampa is inexcusable. Vote him out)
Marion County, IN (Indianapolis)
Hennepin Co. (≈Minneapolis), MN (Again. You guys have a lot of cleaning up to do. Don't disappoint me)
Wake Co., NC (Raleigh/Cary)
Buncome Co., NC (Asheville) (A bit tougher than the one above, but still important to cover all the major cities in NC)
Bergen County, NJ (Again, the Dems supported the asshole incumbent because fuck the machine, but his resignation created an opportunity for a better alternative)
Dona Ana, NM (Important as this is a border county)
Salt Like City, UT (You guys have a huge opportunity with both DA and sheriff. Hopefully McAdams can pull your candidates across the finish line)

For control of the county
Harris County (Houston) (Main fight is for the commissioners, including the 'County Judge' Also will need to clean house of some precincts who has had Republicans for years... especially the County Clerk #FireStanart)
San Diego city council (Another city that has voted R until recently. Hopefully the Dems can gain more control)
Montgomery Co. Executive (Washington suburbs) (There's a fear that the progressive and independent may split the votes against the Republican)
San Juan Co. Commission Read this: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/11/01/people-are-energized/
 
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Midnight Jon

Midnight Jon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,161
Ohio
I would like to add one more thing. Some minor positions need to be have some light shed on as they have a great of an influence as some of the national races.

Prosecutors (DA, state attorney, etc)

Jefferson Co., AL (Birmingham)
Marin Co., CA (San Rafael)
Cumberland Co. (≈Portland), ME
Berkshire County, MA
Suffolk County (≈Boston), MA
Plymouth, MA
Hennepin Co., MN (Minneapolis)
Tulsa Co., OK
Payne and Logan counties, OK (Stillwater and Guthrie respectively)
Bexar Co., TX (The asshole incumbent already got primary'd so it's just the matter of beating the Republican)
Dallas Co., TX
Salt Lake, UT
Bennington Co., VT
King Co. (≈Seattle), WA

Sheriffs

This is mostly to stop sheriffs from cooperating with ICE

LA County (Seriously? You guys haven't had a D sheriff in over 100 years?!)
Orange Co., CA (Will probably determine how well the Dems are doing in that county)
Hillsborough, FL (Don't trust the incumbent just because he got cozy with the Dems there. Having a guy like that in Tampa is inexcusable. Vote him out)
Marion County, IN (Indianapolis)
Hennepin Co. (≈Minneapolis), MN (Again. You guys have a lot of cleaning up to do. Don't disappoint me)
Wake Co., NC (Raleigh/Cary)
Buncome Co., NC (Asheville) (A bit tougher than the one above, but still important to cover all the major cities in NC)
Bergen County, NJ (Again, the Dems supported the asshole incumbent because fuck the machine, but his resignation created an opportunity for a better alternative)
Dona Ana, NM (Important as this is a border county)
Salt Like City, UT (You guys have a huge opportunity with both DA and sheriff. Hopefully McAdams can pull your candidates across the finish line)

For control of the county
Harris County (Houston) (Main fight is for the commissioners, including the 'County Judge' Also will need to clean house of some precincts who has had Republicans for years... especially the County Clerk #FireStanart)
San Diego city council (Another city that has voted R until recently. Hopefully the Dems can gain more control)
Montgomery Co. Executive (Washington suburbs) (There's a fear that the progressive and independent may split the votes against the Republican)
San Juan Co. Commission Read this: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/11/01/people-are-energized/
went ahead and added that to the second half of the OP!
 

KtotheRoc

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
56,607
It was pointed out in the Texas thread, but if Cruz loses to Beto, it's very likely Beto would be the 51st Dem in the Senate (from AZ/NV going D and ND going R), so Cruz would not only be the Republican that lost Texas, but also the Republican that lost the Senate.
Can't think of a better career ender for that asshole.

That would be absolutely amazing, but I'm not that optimistic.
 

IrishNinja

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,837
Vice City
It was pointed out in the Texas thread, but if Cruz loses to Beto, it's very likely Beto would be the 51st Dem in the Senate (from AZ/NV going D and ND going R), so Cruz would not only be the Republican that lost Texas, but also the Republican that lost the Senate.
Can't think of a better career ender for that asshole.

fuck, man
really trying to consolidate my hopes on gillum and lame-duck nelson, with amendment 4 passing
steve king getting the fuck out is a distant (?) hope, but this would be absolutely amazing and now i must scour the timelines for one where it happens
 

Zippedpinhead

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,716
Early voted yesterday in my state (last day). and I took it upon myself to see how it was progressing from turnout.

Turns out that as of monday Tennessee had over 1 million early voters, approximately 26% of all registered voters in the state! This is ALMOST the entire turnout of the LAST midterm (and governor) Election in Tennessee (2014 with 28.6% of all eligible voters!).

Even if the results in this state are not what I want, I am so very happy that people showed up this cycle. Its been a brutal race, starting with the vicious republican governor primary and now with the hotly contested Senate race.
 

snipe_25

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,165
Early voted yesterday in my state (last day). and I took it upon myself to see how it was progressing from turnout.

Turns out that as of monday Tennessee had over 1 million early voters, approximately 26% of all registered voters in the state! This is ALMOST the entire turnout of the LAST midterm (and governor) Election in Tennessee (2014 with 28.6% of all eligible voters!).

Even if the results in this state are not what I want, I am so very happy that people showed up this cycle. Its been a brutal race, starting with the vicious republican governor primary and now with the hotly contested Senate race.

Hope Bredesen/Taylor Swift can pull it off.
 

Volimar

volunteer forum janitor
Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,288
My wife and I bought the most delicious of pizzas during the presidential election and since have not bought from that place because of horrible memories.

Tuesday we will once again buy the same pizzas in hopes to wipe away any bad memories and enjoy that silicosis pizza once more.


Now we know who to blame.
 
Oct 30, 2017
2,365
I wasn't able to find a good comprehensive source for judges. Some places endorsed a few candidates, while omitting the other 10 in my ballot and most places just skipped commenting on judges. I ended up going to the republican voters guide for judges and voting the opposite to what they recommended.


Republican recommendations: https://judgevoterguide.com/

Thanks for that. I came across that site myself and thought it might be a Republican website.
 
Dec 13, 2017
577
Does anyone have any good articles or references regarding Florida's amendments? Outside of 1-4, the rest seem shaky and have no idea where to vote on those.
 

Outdoor Miner

Member
Oct 26, 2017
659
Broward County FL, USA
Folks, if you're unsure about some of the smaller races or amendments be sure to check your local newspaper's website. They will usually have their endorsements along with their justifications.

Does anyone have any good articles or references regarding Florida's amendments? Outside of 1-4, the rest seem shaky and have no idea where to vote on those.

Best resource for amendments IMO -> https://ballotpedia.org/Florida_2018_ballot_measures

I'll add that the language regarding some of the amendments are very tricky/misleading this year. Consult Ballotpedia but also check your paper's endorsement (mine was Sun Sentinel for Broward).
 
Dec 13, 2017
577
I had tried ballotpedia, but didn't realize I can click on individual amendments for more information. Thank you everyone! Hope my fellow Floridians go out and vote!
 
Dec 13, 2017
577
God I hope FL Amendment 4 passes. 1.6M disenfranchised FL citizens would get their voting rights restored.

That's a crazy number of people, I hope it passes too, but unfortunately I think it won't. Central/Northern Florida still seem to be dominated by Republicans. From what I've been reading though, the polling seems to be SUPER close. Florida and Texas are going to be super interesting come election day.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,467
I'll be honest, I want Republicans to win so that when the economy goes belly up because of trumps and the GOP's asinine economic policies, they won't have a scapegoat anymore.

The Dems can then show how fucking stupid they have always been and use it to ride the real blue wave of the future.
 

Deleted member 31817

Nov 7, 2017
30,876
I'll be honest, I want Republicans to win so that when the economy goes belly up because of trumps and the GOP's asinine economic policies, they won't have a scapegoat anymore.

The Dems can then show how fucking stupid they have always been and use it to ride the real blue wave of the future.
People will always blame democrats for shit they had no part in so pls dont do this
 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
Took a great depression to get FDR and his reforms going. The people need to see how stupid conservative ideals really are.
Technically speaking, that's different. FDR started off trying to remain deficit neutral himself, but then realized it wasn't working. He had broad republican support for his new deal bills, it wasn't a right vs left thing at the time. It was only later that Republicans decided to run against those type of government programs. Honestly it probably has something to do with FDR getting re-elected over and over again. Basically, because the republicans weren't actually opposed to the new deal and proposing something different there wasn't really much of a reason to switch votes.

And so republicans created a reason.
 

Smylie

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,888
Oregon
I'll be honest, I want Republicans to win so that when the economy goes belly up because of trumps and the GOP's asinine economic policies, they won't have a scapegoat anymore.

The Dems can then show how fucking stupid they have always been and use it to ride the real blue wave of the future.

And how many women, people of color, and LGBTQ folks are you OK with suffering in the meantime?

That's a super bad idea.
 
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rjinaz

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
28,369
Phoenix
I'll be honest, I want Republicans to win so that when the economy goes belly up because of trumps and the GOP's asinine economic policies, they won't have a scapegoat anymore.

The Dems can then show how fucking stupid they have always been and use it to ride the real blue wave of the future.
It will always be the Dems fault because blaming the Dems on the economy has always worked wonder for Republicans. All that will happen if Republicans keep control of congress is that Republicans will spend the next 2 years gutting social programs at the expense of tax cuts for the wealthy and the deficit will sky rocket. In 2020 Dems would win and that's right about the time the economy will start taking a hit. Republicans will spend the next 4 years saying it's all the Democrat's fault and stupid people would once again believe them and round and round we go.

We have to take the wins when we can get them.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,467
We had a depression and theyre still voting republican lmao
Had a black scapegoat. They need full majority and to see how fucking bad their god emperor's policies are to finally "see the light". And once it inevitably all goes to shit, the Dems need to show the masses and continue showing them every election after just how much of a shit show they were.
 

Deleted member 11426

User Requested Account Closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
2,628
Greensboro NC
How do I vote if I didn't get around to updating my info by a deadline? I'm in NC and moved since the last election. My drivers license is updated, but my voter registration is still in the old place. The county website says..

"If you fail to change your address by the registration deadline, on election day go to your old precinct and fill out an election day transfer form. Take the form to your new precinct where you will be allowed to vote."

It's my bad for not doing this, but I'm also not driving hours back and forth across the state on Tuesday.
 

okayfrog

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,968
I'll be honest, I want Republicans to win so that when the economy goes belly up because of trumps and the GOP's asinine economic policies, they won't have a scapegoat anymore.

The Dems can then show how fucking stupid they have always been and use it to ride the real blue wave of the future.
After 2016, there were some who shared your mentality, who were saying that Clinton losing was a good thing in that it would hopefully allow for the Democrats to improve and for people to see the GOP for how awful they really are. The problem with that is that a lot of people are suffering because of that choice. That and the fact that nothing really changed; people are still out there, voting for Republicans even though Trump's been a racist, transphobic, xenophobic asshole. You know why? Because even though Trump is all those things, Republicans are still the party for things like gun rights, religious freedom (if you're Christian), and stopping immigrants from taking one's job. The Democrats can't reach these people, no matter how awful the GOP continues to be.

Best thing to do is to reach more voters. Though this push from the Democrats for voter reform isn't really gonna result in that, it's still a step in the right direction, and what needs to be done as convincing people the GOP is bad just isn't gonna happen no matter how bad they get.
 
Oct 27, 2017
6,467
After 2016, there were some who shared your mentality, who were saying that Clinton losing was a good thing in that it would hopefully allow for the Democrats to improve and for people to see the GOP for how awful they really are. The problem with that is that a lot of people are suffering because of that choice. That and the fact that nothing really changed; people are still out there, voting for Republicans even though Trump's been a racist, transphobic, xenophobic asshole. You know why? Because even though Trump is all those things, Republicans are still the party for things like gun rights, religious freedom (if you're Christian), and stopping immigrants from taking one's job. The Democrats can't reach these people, no matter how awful the GOP continues to be.

Best thing to do is to reach more voters. Though this push from the Democrats for voter reform isn't really gonna result in that, it's still a step in the right direction, and what needs to be done as convincing people the GOP is bad just isn't gonna happen no matter how bad they get.
Because the economy is still doing well right now. That's literally the only thing GOP supporters give a shit about. Show them that their lives are shittier when GOP rules and you'll finally have change.
 

Ac30

Member
Oct 30, 2017
14,527
London
I'll be honest, I want Republicans to win so that when the economy goes belly up because of trumps and the GOP's asinine economic policies, they won't have a scapegoat anymore.

The Dems can then show how fucking stupid they have always been and use it to ride the real blue wave of the future.

Vast majority of People will blame the president. Ignore the crazed 30%.
 

viskod

Member
Nov 9, 2017
4,396
Took a great depression to get FDR and his reforms going. The people need to see how stupid conservative ideals really are.

I don't think that will work anymore. Just look at Kansas.

Kansas is the perfect example of what you get when Republicans have unchallenged control of all levels of government and are free to enact all of their dream policies unfettered. Brownback ran the state into the fucking ground. What happened? He got re-elected. Then he stomped it into the ground even further, and now Kobach who is promising to keep doing the same shit is still probably going to win the election. The Republicans of Kansas had no democrats to blame any of their woes on, and the people of Kansas still didn't learn.
 

okayfrog

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,968
Because the economy is still doing well right now. That's literally the only thing GOP supporters give a shit about. Show them that their lives are shittier when GOP rules and you'll finally have change.
I used to believe the same, but more and more is coming out regarding race being the major factor regarding those who switched from Obama to Trump. It seems like the economy tanking wouldn't affect the swing voters so much. Only thing that would affect them would be for the GOP to start supporting policies that benefit minorities, and I don't see that happening.

A Republican winning in 2016 wasn't a good thing, and Republicans winning now wouldn't be a good thing either.
 

viskod

Member
Nov 9, 2017
4,396
Because the economy is still doing well right now. That's literally the only thing GOP supporters give a shit about. Show them that their lives are shittier when GOP rules and you'll finally have change.

They won't believe you. You cannot show them. They won't believe reality. Their lives were better under Obama and they kept voting for more Rs in the midterms. They had a great economy under Obama. Trump hasn't done a fucking thing to this economy except ruin peoples lives with his tariffs.

The farmers that are losing their shit because of Trumps idiotic trade policies are still going to vote R in the midterm. A soybean farmer who's in a dire situation right now and really doesn't like Steve Kings racist comments said he was still going to vote for Steve King!

"Economic Anxiety" was bullshit made up by pundits who didn't have the balls to say that Republicans are goddamn racist.