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Oct 27, 2017
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The Nutcracker looks so dull and by-the-numbers. Like it looks like the store-brand version of Beauty and the Beast.
 

VinylCassette64

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Oct 26, 2017
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That Nutcracker movie reviews started dropping and the movie turns out to be a turd, to the surprise of nobody.

Bringing in another director to do extensive reshoots and Disney barely marketing the film up until the previous week were already serious red flags. That being said, I was expecting it to get mediocre reviews at worst (low 70s to mid-50s), the Tomatometer (currently 28%) is way lower than I expected.

This film was already poised going to join Solo and AWIT in the 2018 bomba fest, but they at least got mediocre to okay reviews. This is probably going to be the biggest loser of the lot, especially considering the November competition (which includes WDAS's Ralph Breaks The Internet....Disney's self-cannibalizing schedule strikes once more).

*grumble* Imagine if Disney put a fraction of the budget they dumped into this film making and properly marketing a 2D animated film instead *grumble*
 

Certinfy

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Oct 29, 2017
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Not surprising for The Nutcracker. The trailers for both that and A Wrinkle In Time were as bad as I've ever seen. Shocking how that one studio completely sucks compared to Disney's others.
 
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Oct 24, 2017
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The Nutcracker budget figure is from TheWrap, so probably not fabricated. Usually the LA Times or Variety will mention it as well.
 

Zygnosis

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Nutcracker was like a trippy psychosis. Awesomely dark and beautiful, then the story is dull and idiotic. What a mess.
 

shintoki

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Not surprising for The Nutcracker. The trailers for both that and A Wrinkle In Time were as bad as I've ever seen. Shocking how that one studio completely sucks compared to Disney's others.
AWiT I felt Disney had more expectations for, it had a really big advertisement campaign.

Nutcracker... I didn't even know it was coming out till this thread. I've seen maybe one trailer for it
 

KingFox

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May 17, 2018
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So by next week there could be two movies bombing, each with a female lead named Foy, although not related. What are the odds.

Kinda liked The Nutcracker trailer though. Shame about the reviews.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I rather enjoyed the Nutcracker movie. It wasn't too long, the visuals and costumes were gorgeous, and the Nutcracker music (when it was used) was quite good. The actress who played Clara did an outstanding job.

Parts of the movie dragged a bit, but overall the visuals and music made it up for me.
 

KingFox

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May 17, 2018
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And I will very likely end up seeing both of them next week.

Yeah I'm going to see both as well. I have a soft spot for fantasy stuff like The Huntsman and Alice in Wonderland movies so The Nutcracker seems right up my alley. And I love me some Claire Foy.

In due time when they hit VOD anyway. I'm not much of a movie theatre-goer.
 

NealMcCauley

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Oct 27, 2017
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Bohemian $3.9M Thursday

Compared to other musical-themed features of late, Universal's Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again made $3.4M on its Thursday before a $14.2M Friday, and $34.95M opening back in July. Then there's Warner Bros.' A Star Is Born which posted $3.2M in its Thursday night previews not counting its Wednesday sneaks cash which in total was $4.55M. That led to a $15.6M Friday and $42.9M opening weekend last month.

It's been a while since there's been a major studio music biopic and their range of openings are quite wide. On the high end, there's Universal's NWA movie Straight Outta Compton ($24.1M Friday, $60.2M weekend) and then there's movies such as Oscar winners Ray ($6.6M Friday, $20M) in 2005 and the Johnny Cash and June Carter love story Walk the Line ($7.6M Friday, $22.3M opening). Compton is arguably the biggest grossing one at the domestic B.O. with $161.1M.
 

berzeli

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Oct 25, 2017
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Despite coming in under pressure, it sure looks as if that Queen movie found somebody to love, in fact it's a real killer queen. Or maybe it's just some fat bottomed girls who are being quite the big spender. So don't stop me now, but I and and anyone else who saw this coming; we are the champions. ... something, something A Star is Born, radio gaga

for context (and somehow with worse puns) I give you deadline:
'Bohemian Rhapsody' Hits A High Note On Thursday Night With $3.9M Previews
20th Century Fox/New Regency/GK Film's Bohemian Rhapsody struck a chord last night to the tune of $3.9M in Thursday night previews that began at 7PM.

Compared to other musical-themed features of late, Universal's Mamma Mia: Here We Go Again made $3.4M on its Thursday before a $14.2M Friday, and $34.95M opening back in July. Then there's Warner Bros.' A Star Is Born which posted $3.2M in its Thursday night previews not counting its Wednesday sneaks cash which in total was $4.55M. That led to a $15.6M Friday and $42.9M opening weekend last month.
It's been a while since there's been a major studio music biopic and their range of openings are quite wide. On the high end, there's Universal's NWA movie Straight Outta Compton ($24.1M Friday, $60.2M weekend) and then there's movies such as Oscar winners Ray ($6.6M Friday, $20M) in 2005 and the Johnny Cash and June Carter love story Walk the Line ($7.6M Friday, $22.3M opening). Compton is arguably the biggest grossing one at the domestic B.O. with $161.1M.

edit: dammit, I should have spent less time on puns and more time on being first
 

Rvaan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Despite coming in under pressure, it sure looks as if that Queen movie found somebody to love, in fact it's a real killer queen. Or maybe it's just some fat bottomed girls who are being quite the big spender. So don't stop me now, but I and and anyone else who saw this coming; we are the champions. ... something, something A Star is Born, radio gaga

for context (and somehow with worse puns) I give you deadline:
'Bohemian Rhapsody' Hits A High Note On Thursday Night With $3.9M Previews


edit: dammit, I should have spent less time on puns and more time on being first

You wanted it all but in the end you were just another one to bite the dust.
 

NealMcCauley

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anecdotally I think BR's 7pm shows for last night and tonight at the IMAX near me sold more tickets than First Man did in the entire 2-3 weeks it was showing.
 

DevilMayGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I actually enjoyed venom, so I'm okay with this
It did feel like there were 20 minutes just straight up missing from the film somewhere in the middle though
 

Meows

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Oct 28, 2017
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Despite coming in under pressure, it sure looks as if that Queen movie found somebody to love, in fact it's a real killer queen. Or maybe it's just some fat bottomed girls who are being quite the big spender. So don't stop me now, but I and and anyone else who saw this coming; we are the champions. ... something, something A Star is Born, radio gaga

for context (and somehow with worse puns) I give you deadline:
'Bohemian Rhapsody' Hits A High Note On Thursday Night With $3.9M Previews


edit: dammit, I should have spent less time on puns and more time on being first

bryan singer somehow manages to win again. ugh.
 

NealMcCauley

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Oct 27, 2017
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On the subject of Nutcracker...

Disney's $120M young female production The Nutcracker and the Four Realms is expected to be pounded to dust this weekend with an opening around $20M at 3,766 theaters, 69% of that count offering 3D with 202 Premium Large Format screens and 150 D-BOX/4D auditoriums. Previews began at 6PM last night and only made $625K which is the lowest preview night for Disney in quite some time. We'll have their Thursday night figure soon. Critics are tap dancing on The Nutcracker, which isn't exactly a ballet-driven movie for better or for worse, with a 31% RT score.

Locally it's sharing the RPX screen with BR. BR has the good showtimes.
 

Vito

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Venom reached 190 million on the US. 200 million is a lock in a few weeks.
 

berzeli

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Oct 25, 2017
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boxoffice.com's thoughts on previews, clickthrough for all films I'm just gonna post Nutcracker:
Disney reports that The Nutcracker and the Four Realms brought in $625K from shows starting at 6pm last night. Unfortunately, that's 52 percent off the pace of A Wrinkle In Time ($1.3 million) earlier this year. Comparisons to other live action Disney films like Christopher Robin ($1.5 million), The BFG ($780K), and Alice Through the Looking Glass ($1.5 million) aren't particularly relevant at this point in time given the summer release of those three films. Conversely, Nutcracker's target younger audience won't show up until weekend business at this point in the school year.
 

uncelestial

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Oct 25, 2017
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Poor First Man, did the stupid controversy about the flag from the right wing actually sink that movie? It was a more worthy effort than the numbers are showing -- great spectacle, acting, and story.
 

Prompto

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Oct 25, 2017
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Poor First Man, did the stupid controversy about the flag from the right wing actually sink that movie? It was a more worthy effort than the numbers are showing -- great spectacle, acting, and story.
I think A Star Is Born releasing around the same time hurt it more. Took away the "prestige drama" audience away from it.
 

NinjaScooter

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Oct 25, 2017
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Poor First Man, did the stupid controversy about the flag from the right wing actually sink that movie? It was a more worthy effort than the numbers are showing -- great spectacle, acting, and story.

I think its more that those kinds of movies aren't the kind that people necessarily get out to the movies for anymore. A prestige movie, with a Academy Award winning director, and a well known lead actor based on a historical figure. Feels like those kinds of actor/director driven dramas don't fly as much anymore. Makes me wonder if the kinds of movies actors like Tom Hanks and Harrison Ford (not that Gosling is Ford/Hanks) built their careers on 25 years ago are even viable anymore. Like does Philadelphia happen in 2018?
 

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I think its more that those kinds of movies aren't the kind that people necessarily get out to the movies for anymore. A prestige movie, with a Academy Award winning director, and a well known lead actor based on a historical figure. Feels like those kinds of actor/director driven dramas don't fly as much anymore. Makes me wonder if the kinds of movies actors like Tom Hanks and Harrison Ford (not that Gosling is Ford/Hanks) built their careers on 25 years ago are even viable anymore. Like does Philadelphia happen in 2018?

I need to strongly recommend watching Apollo 13 right after (soon after) first man, works so well (for obvious reasons). Going from Armstrong's perspective directly to watching Tom Hanks watching Armstrong step on the moon and grimmace is just amazing.
 

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I think its more that those kinds of movies aren't the kind that people necessarily get out to the movies for anymore. A prestige movie, with a Academy Award winning director, and a well known lead actor based on a historical figure. Feels like those kinds of actor/director driven dramas don't fly as much anymore. Makes me wonder if the kinds of movies actors like Tom Hanks and Harrison Ford (not that Gosling is Ford/Hanks) built their careers on 25 years ago are even viable anymore. Like does Philadelphia happen in 2018?
As an independent, low budget release, I guess.
 
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