Almost got me thereFighting games are such a bad value proposition these days. Why is this genre even popular?
Almost got me thereFighting games are such a bad value proposition these days. Why is this genre even popular?
Was pretty true 2016-2017. Got every season 1 and 2 character with the exception of 3 of them for free.Hahahahahaha
What an absolute crock of shit saying that you never have to pay money for SFV characters
I guess capcom should just deactivate the ability to pay for them because everyone's getting them for free yeah
and all of them are COSTUMES as in stuff that doesn't affect gameplay.If you include costumes, doesn't DOA have like 600 dollars worth of DLC ? It has several season passes lol.
It's not a popular genre, they're all dying, as should be.Fighting games are such a bad value proposition these days. Why is this genre even popular?
If you include costumes, doesn't DOA have like 600 dollars worth of DLC ? It has several season passes lol.
sure you can grind 800 hours or whatever it is and get them for free, but at the point it's just better to think of them as paid. SFV should be top of the list.
This thread is talking about buying the game AT LAUNCH. When amassing a shit ton of FM took playing story, survival, and trials...and logging in weekly for free FM. You know. Normal parts of fighting games. There was no grind until 2018.sure you can grind 800 hours or whatever it is and get them for free, but at the point it's just better to think of them as paid. SFV should be top of the list.
You're learning. I don't buy fighting games to play them lol.Oh yea sorry I forgot that playing the game is considered grinding. Yes, FM is the worst and it might as well not be there.
What. Fighting games are the healthiest they've been in ages
Playing that dogass survival mode and story mode to get currency is a normal part of fighting gamesThis thread is talking about buying the game AT LAUNCH. When amassing a shit ton of FM took playing story, survival, and trials...and logging in weekly for free FM. You know. Normal parts of fighting games. There was no grind until 2018.
Something something reused assetsFunny how BlazBlue Tag has the best cost for DLC characters outside of free DLC like Arms
Modern fighting games don't offer any way to get money to buy DLC characters in game. Story and easy survival take maybe 5 and 8 minutes with loading respectively. The fact of the matter is that they were easy to do and available to everyone. So. :)Playing that dogass survival mode and story mode to get currency is a normal part of fighting games
Story and easy survival take maybe 5 and 8 minutes with loading respectively. The matter of the fact is that they were easy to do and available to everyone. So. :)
This is actually really new to me. Now braindead story and survival modes are an exercise in masochism to complete that the majority of players simply can't handle. Is the video-game purchasing community this stupid? I'm going to sit down and ponder for a bit. This is a lot for me to process.Like I get that it used to be a lot easier to gain the currency, but that still doesn't mean that the characters were "basically free". Most people don't want to grind away doing awful modes just to get characters. They weren't free for most users.
Easy survival is both a waste of time and the reward is paltry; you're saying you only have to beat this boring as fuck fight gauntlet with half the cast. Like, come on. Most people are not masochists, so the characters are not all free.
This is actually really new to me. Now braindead story and survival modes are an exercise in masochism to complete that the majority of players simply can't handle. Is the video-game purchasing community this stupid? I'm going to sit down and ponder for a bit. This is a lot for me to process.
With the way people scream bloody murder about fighting games not having shit story modes at launch you'd think it was normalPlaying that dogass survival mode and story mode to get currency is a normal part of fighting games
Do you actually think they took avenues for receiving FM away in 2018 because...people weren't playing story and survival mode?I mean
Capcom is the one who assumed most people would not get these characters for free
Not me
Do you actually think they took avenues for receiving FM away in 2018 because...people weren't playing story and survival mode?
lolI think they realized that those people who were grinding survival were dedicated enough to part with their money, not that the majority of players were receiving the game's cast at no cost.
I think they realized that those people who were grinding survival were dedicated enough to part with their money, not that the majority of players were receiving the game's cast at no cost.
I dont think the majority of players were grinding survival in the first place.
You get a new song too because every char has their own theme. No new stage though although if you don't spend fight money on characters then you can get all new stages for free anyway.
The whole system is fucked and I'd rather spend 30 bucks getting all stages, all chars and an additional costume instead without have to worry about this stupid fight money system. Nobody will ever convince me a new character is worth 6 bucks when the original game released with more chars for less money and additional development time went into all the modes too.
But it does exactly this?It would be so great that if you could just pay 30 to get chars and costumes for each char included. Man, I wish SFV did that.
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I think they mean all costumes, ever.
Especially the ones that don't exist.
I mean the bigger franchises are all selling 2+ mils that's hardly niche, i can understand smaller anime games which sell 100k~500k tops doing that but i don't think it's justifiable for the bigger ones such Tekken, SF, DBFZ, smash and nrs games, i think those games can make more than enough profit selling costumes and other decorative things such as stages, music....etc while offering characters for free.It's almost like fighters are a niche genre so the DLC has to be pricey to pay for the costs of the characters + free game updates.
Sakurai has earned the consumer's trust, plus his games fill like full packages to start with, the last smash with DLC super delivered, and he said they arent being worked on until the game is done and in our hands. How can we not throw money at this manNow THIS is ridiculous. I'm glad Capcom stopped playing around with that shit and announces seasons in full with Marvel Infinite (RIP)/SF post-S2.
I don't know how Sakurai asked people to buy a pass today without saying literally anything about who's in it. Not even character silhouettes. It's actually more hype inducing to know who's in than not.
FGs being niche is just a meme now, in a generation where at least 6(will be 8 by the end of the year) fighting games sold more than 1 million copies.It's almost like fighters are a niche genre so the DLC has to be pricey to pay for the costs of the characters + free game updates.
Season passes transparency isn't for series loyalists willing to blindly throw their money regardless of what they'd get. It's for those complaining about why character X made it into the game over character Y when ever a new smash character is revealed, it's hard to miss them if you ever been in a Smash thread. Imagine how much louder those will be if they gambled with the season pass in hope for character Y.Sakurai has earned the consumer's trust, plus his games fill like full packages to start with, the last smash with DLC super delivered, and he said they arent being worked on until the game is done and in our hands. How can we not throw money at this man
If you can't see why someone placing a product for sale without saying what the product contains isn't bad business, there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise. And characters not being completed =/ them not having been chosen and put into some form of pre-production. It takes a long time to make just 1 character. The only reason Sakurai said that was so Nintendo wouldn't be accused of holding back content from the main game/maintain some mystery about who's in the pass for future Nintendo Directs.Sakurai has earned the consumer's trust, plus his games fill like full packages to start with, the last smash with DLC super delivered, and he said they arent being worked on until the game is done and in our hands. How can we not throw money at this man
At the very least he basically tells us not to buy it if you don't see the value yet.If you can't see why someone placing a product for sale without saying what the product contains isn't bad business, there's nothing I can say to convince you otherwise.
Y'know luce, I'm your biggest fan and all but one day you'll bait the wrong people.Fighting games are such a bad value proposition these days. Why is this genre even popular?
Games like Tekken 7, MKX and I2 are packed with content too.Sakurai has earned the consumer's trust, plus his games fill like full packages to start with, the last smash with DLC super delivered, and he said they arent being worked on until the game is done and in our hands. How can we not throw money at this man
People who complained about FM during season 1/2 only have themselves to blame for this.And there is no way a regular SF5 player can unlock more than a season of characters now with the changes
Since when is T7 packed with content?