Good. People shouldnt expect a second E3.After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
Good. People shouldnt expect a second E3.After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
They didn't get the green light on this until late last year and they've had to build a studio basically from scratch for it. They still have many senior and lead openings for it, including Creative Director, which is Ralph's title on the Horizon team. You can check for yourself by looking at their careers page and clicking the project 2 button.Phil already teased that they are working on something and it has been known for 2 years that Playground was making an RPG. It's coming in 2020 or 2021. My guess is 2020 as a next gen crossover title along with Halo Infinite. This is the studio that has cranked out 2 of the best racing games of all time in 4 years. I suspect the RPG will be a 3-4 year dev cycle and I think this game was pretty well in the works in 2017.
Dont get why people think sony will do that... they havent shown any big interest for consumer friendly features like BC so far.
Are you doing your podcast today with Jez?After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
It's alright man, if I purchased a $500 box to play only 3-4 games on it, I too would try to justify it by any means necessary. Having a corporation screw them over and under-deliver on their promises should be a concern for most Xbox fans, but I think they're just fine with the way things are. :)I wasn't sure before, but now I am with this ^^^ post. Reset needs to include a drug test to be a member of these here forums, here... Yup!
MS is bold enough to have a guy like Nadella lead the company as CEO, which turned their entire profit/revenue margins around, but somehow Phil Spencer still has a job when their gaming division has been at a standstill for the past 3 years, and Spencer has done next to nothing to alleviate the lack of new IPs since he came on-board.
I miss the early years of the 360, when MS seemed unstoppable and were working closely with all sorts of devs to ensure a quality gaming experience on their console. I can't understand how people have invested $500 for the OneX and all they have to look forward to is Crackdown 3 and another half-assed Gears...and I don't think MS has anything hidden up their sleeves.
This is not the whole show, this is nowhere near worth 2 HRS worth of material to talk aboutThey need to hold a event to show off this stuff? They can do that in a regular inside Xbox show or Xbox Wire post, a show of this nature would be disastrous
It's alright man, if I purchased a $500 box to play only 3-4 games on it, I too would try to justify it by any means necessary. Having a corporation screw them over and under-deliver on their promises should be a concern for most Xbox fans, but I think they're just fine with the way things are. :)
This man gets it.I think you are being too harsh saying Xbox has stood still, its become a fantastic platform for services & subscription services.
Remember Phil was responsible for Minecraft and that acquisition alone should let Nadella keep Phil, it is HUGE & a cash cow.
I do however understand a few points you make:
- Which was the last MS Exclusive other than FH3/FH4 to have a 90+ Meta or 10 Million in Sales? Sony & Nintendo's going to have atleast 5 this gen. ( Sorry, not console warring)
- They have lost a lot of ground in Europe which is even more concerning than Japan.
- The slow decline of MSs most successful IPs like GEARS and HALO has been painful to watch.
- The lack of Successful new IPs is still something that can be considered a criticism of Phil.
On the whole, I like Phil a lot, he is a gamer and he wants the best for Xbox. 2018 has been a big step in terms of Software, 2017 was for Hardware( One X is an amazing console). I predict a bright future for Xbox atleast in its strong holds. Europe is still going to be a challenge I think.
It's alright man, if I purchased a $500 box to play only 3-4 games on it, I too would try to justify it by any means necessary. Having a corporation screw them over and under-deliver on their promises should be a concern for most Xbox fans, but I think they're just fine with the way things are. :)
This man gets it.
I was a diehard Gears 1 player when the game launched in 2006. MS was making jaw-dropping, groundbreaking games then, because once the 360 got the trifecta of Gears, Halo 3, and Mass Effect (and even Bioshock), the console and MS' gaming division seemed on top of the world. More still, it looked like they cared about the consumers that had purchased their hardware.
Now? Not so much.
Depends what were the expectations.. lolAfter having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
Do you think if Sony tried to buy Playground Games, they would've chose them over Microsoft, just because of money? Money plays big role, but that isn't everything.
The thing is. Sony is already chancing PSnow to be more like gamepass. You pay monthly fee and you can download games or stream them. It is not on the level of gamepass and it isn't avaible everywhere, but they are not standing idle.
Besides Sony has other things to use against Microsoft when next generation comes. Easiest way to get people who bought PS4 to also buy PS5 is to offer them BC at launch. Play all your PS4 games on PS5 and just keep advertising that. Masses who bought PS4 will go and buy PS5.
Also masses have no freaking idea about how many or how skilled studios Microsoft have bought. They need to see those games. They have already seen great games on PS4 and now they are getting sequels to them on PS5 launch.
There is many things to consider when next gen launches and we are going to see tighter competion than this generation.
WelpAfter having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
I'd disagree. Relationship and support services, tools, and expectations of the studio are all huge factors that can outweigh money, especially if the studio is owned privately.
People overstate the meaning of a relationship when it comes to business transactions. At the end of the day, money is the only thing that matters because if it didn't, so many deals would have gone a different way.Do you think if Sony tried to buy Playground Games, they would've chose them over Microsoft, just because of money? Money plays big role, but that isn't everything.
This man gets it.
I was a diehard Gears 1 player when the game launched in 2006. MS was making jaw-dropping, groundbreaking games then, because once the 360 got the trifecta of Gears, Halo 3, and Mass Effect (and even Bioshock), the console and MS' gaming division seemed on top of the world. More still, it looked like they cared about the consumers that had purchased their hardware.
Now? Not so much.
Anything outside of Obsidian getting acquired is just extra for me.After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
Most people have played or heard how good ninja theory and playground games games are, fh3 was one of the highest rated games last yr wasn't it ? Same with hellblade. Also people love enslaved ( and people who actually played DmC love it too)
After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
If you go and ask masses who made Halo and who made Spider-Man or God of War, lots of them would say Sony and Microsoft. Not many of them would know studio behind them.
People often forget that we discussing here are the hardcore group
Why are you even here?It's alright man, if I purchased a $500 box to play only 3-4 games on it, I too would try to justify it by any means necessary. Having a corporation screw them over and under-deliver on their promises should be a concern for most Xbox fans, but I think they're just fine with the way things are. :)
Cyberpunk was basically a one more thing at E3.
Did you copy and paste that post from 2017? I'm not sure whether it's ignorance, denial, or just plain trolling.
Even though it wasn't an exclusive, Cyberpunk 2077 was absolutely a one more thing announcement this E3.
He was saying it was the end of the show and thanking people for watching, basically said bye then the stage got hacked, showed a terminal and played Cyberpunk trailer.
Oh... so is there a link to your previous predictions/realistic hopes?After having a conversation with someone.... I am significantly lowering my expectations for X018
I think you are being too harsh saying Xbox has stood still, its become a fantastic platform for services & subscription services.
Remember Phil was responsible for Minecraft and that acquisition alone should let Nadella keep Phil, it is HUGE & a cash cow.
I do however understand a few points you make:
- Which was the last MS Exclusive other than FH3/FH4 to have a 90+ Meta or 10 Million in Sales? Sony & Nintendo's going to have atleast 5 this gen. ( Sorry, not console warring)
- They have lost a lot of ground in Europe which is even more concerning than Japan.
- The slow decline of MSs most successful IPs like GEARS and HALO has been painful to watch.
- The lack of Successful new IPs is still something that can be considered a criticism of Phil.
On the whole, I like Phil a lot, he is a gamer and he wants the best for Xbox. 2018 has been a big step in terms of Software, 2017 was for Hardware( One X is an amazing console). I predict a bright future for Xbox atleast in its strong holds. Europe is still going to be a challenge I think.
4-5 years, where we heard about this project for 1,5 year and for almost year we know what it would be (Fable).As in you think it's coming 2021? They're setting out to make a AAA open world RPG and don't have a Director, Audio Designer, World Designer, Technical Director, many senior level positions staffed... It's four or five years off and it'll be a while before they have anything to show.
It's alright man, if I purchased a $500 box to play only 3-4 games on it, I too would try to justify it by any means necessary. Having a corporation screw them over and under-deliver on their promises should be a concern for most Xbox fans, but I think they're just fine with the way things are. :)
Absolutely correct - Ninja Theory, Playground, Obsidian, The Coalition, and 343 are all "Juggernaut" developers that will change the face of gaming next-generation...Yeah, this comes off as stealth trolling at best. You can't neglect FH3 or 4 because it's convenient to make your point. You can't just completely ignore what Xbox brought to the table with GamePass and BC, These have helped literally define this generation and generations to come. Japan has pretty much been a ghost town for Xbox for....how long now? You act as if this is news. Let's not ignore how many Japan-centric games have to come Xbox lately, or the one's on the way. Europe is coming around these days, or have you not noticed?
People have been clamoring for MS to take more time on Halo and Gears. Now that they are, it's a problem? And both titles are still some of the most played online games, with strong communities. Halo 5 is 3 years old...it's still going strong. The competition can't say the same.
I'm just trying to understand here, fam. Help me out.
And no, you can't blame Phil for the lack of Ip's, especially now when he's making huge moves to increase first party content with studio acquisitions. If you ask me, I'm thinking some people can't see the forest for the trees. Microsoft are making juggernaut moves on the whole of the gaming industry.
Wtf is this shit?It's alright man, if I purchased a $500 box to play only 3-4 games on it, I too would try to justify it by any means necessary. Having a corporation screw them over and under-deliver on their promises should be a concern for most Xbox fans, but I think they're just fine with the way things are. :)
This really depends on the expectations you had tho. Like, I was expecting Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3, FH4 and maybe 1 or 2 surprises. Regarding to first party that is.
It feels like people have been hyping this up. Even their last X0 mostly consisted of gameplay trailers for games revealed at E3.
This. Besides the big 3, EA, Rockstar, Blizzard and Ubisoft most people don't know any gaming companies. This is why marketing deals work, they make it seem as if games are exclusive.
Agreed.What a horribly condescending post, shit should be bannable especially for a user with under 50 posts.
Not discrediting Rand, but I have a feeling MS is holding alot behind the scenes just like E3.
It's alright man, if I purchased a $500 box to play only 3-4 games on it, I too would try to justify it by any means necessary. Having a corporation screw them over and under-deliver on their promises should be a concern for most Xbox fans, but I think they're just fine with the way things are. :)
Yeah, this comes off as stealth trolling at best. You can't neglect FH3 or 4 because it's convenient to make your point. You can't just completely ignore what Xbox brought to the table with GamePass and BC, These have helped literally define this generation and generations to come. Japan has pretty much been a ghost town for Xbox for....how long now? You act as if this is news. Let's not ignore how many Japan-centric games have to come Xbox lately, or the one's on the way. Europe is coming around these days, or have you not noticed?
People have been clamoring for MS to take more time on Halo and Gears. Now that they are, it's a problem? And both titles are still some of the most played online games, with strong communities. Halo 5 is 3 years old...it's still going strong. The competition can't say the same.
I'm just trying to understand here, fam. Help me out.
And no, you can't blame Phil for the lack of Ip's, especially now when he's making huge moves to increase first party content with studio acquisitions. If you ask me, I'm thinking some people can't see the forest for the trees. Microsoft are making juggernaut moves on the whole of the gaming industry.
I think your gut feelings have less credentials than Rand.. ;)
I put out all the positives as well, don't understand why you are saying that & I didn't ignore Forza, just said competition has done much more.
What makes you say Europe is coming around? Xbox 360 was doing much better than Xbox One in Europe. I think FIFA, COD marketing helped Xbox 360 a lot in Europe and they don't have the marketing for both now.
Halo and Gears during Phil's stewardship so far have not produced compared to their predecessors in my opinion. I have faith that H6 & Gears 5 will do very well and I appreciate that but so far, they haven't done well enough.
Last 5 years in terms of New IPs for MS have been disappointing for me and thats what I was talking about. I am sure they will do well in the future.
I think you are being too harsh saying Xbox has stood still, its become a fantastic platform for services & subscription services.
Remember Phil was responsible for Minecraft and that acquisition alone should let Nadella keep Phil, it is HUGE & a cash cow.
Funny you mention this because I came across an article today whilst reading up on Satya Nadella (just started reading his book, really interesting read) where he talked about Phil trying to persuade MS leadership at the time to buy Mojang back in 2012:
http://uk.businessinsider.com/micro...necraft-earlier-says-ceo-satya-nadella-2017-9
Dude was WAY ahead of the game.
great summary, that should put peoples expectations in check. Are we gonna get industry changing announcements? Probably not, but we should be expecting some great news that should start creating even more positive buzz for the xbox platform.
Absolutely correct - Ninja Theory, Playground, Obsidian, The Coalition, and 343 are all "Juggernaut" developers that will change the face of gaming next-generation...
This. Besides the big 3, EA, Rockstar, Blizzard and Ubisoft most people don't know any gaming companies. This is why marketing deals work, they make it seem as if games are exclusive.