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TheRuralJuror

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,504
If you support Trump your told to f*** off now plz inform me how is not censorship I'm not into politics but that's f***** up I going to guess if some site did somthing to Hillary supporters it would be sexist again. Not to politics going what I see

I love how you type of people always toss out "I'm not into politics" while coming into political threads to give us your silly political opinions.
 

Deleted member 28461

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
4,830
Didn't vote for The President (even though a lot of people think I did), but I do love Air Force One, so I made this thread.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/un...nts-air-force-one-to-be-red-white-blue.56014/

It ended up being fairly civil.
Why do you follow Candace Owens on Twitter, and why did you make this post complaining about how she wasn't getting verified on Twitter? You never replied to me in that thread.

Why do you pretend to be a good person?
 
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Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,401
If you support Trump your told to f*** off now plz inform me how is not censorship
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Interesting.
I have people right now creeping on my profile page, refreshing it every minutes and using it as an argument against me.
You're trying to argue that a website that has several threads that use oneangrygamer.net, thegatewaypundit, infowars, as sources has anything of value to say. This is on top of the not subtle dogwhistles, making light of legitimate issues, constant caucasian victimhood complex, and considering POC and women having a larger presence in media to be a reason to vote republican. You're not fooling anyone with this "both sides have valid points." shit fam. And frankly, quite tired of this cross forum drama bs.
 
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Thepoorman

Member
Apr 5, 2018
64
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You're trying to argue that a website that has several threads that use oneangrygamer.net, thegatewaypundit, infowars, as sources has anything of value to say. This is on top of the not subtle dogwhistles, making light of legitimate issues, constant caucasian victimhood complex, and considering POC and women having a larger presence in media to be a reason to vote republican. You're not fooling anyone fam.
ok thank you
 

Captain C

Member
Oct 27, 2017
763
You know what? Fuck it. I"m going on a rant.

You know what the fucking fuck I'm tired of throughout all this entire two years of this dumpster fire of an administration? Yeah, I'm pissed at the racism, but I'm black so I've dealt with that bullshit all my life. Yeah I'm pissed at the GOP for enabling this monster, but really, all of the signs were there that they'd fall in line, way back during the goddamn GWB admin in late '01, early '02. The party has been homophobic since time immemorial, so being Anti-LGBT isn't much of a surprise in the least.

But to get to the point, you know what's been really pissing me off? All the efforts of these so-called "moderates", the vast majority of which (though not all) are straight, white, and male, who are constantly, CONSTANTLY trying, and in some cases succeeding, in trying to gaslight minorities, women, and progressive folk into thinking that all of our criticisms of Trump and his administration, are simply a product of us being "hysterical". All of our cries of trying to be human, there's these shitbag social moderates who would prefer a negative peace, than genuine justice. They say things like "Things are more nuanced" or "Not everything is black and white." And they'd be correct if we weren't talking about cases of literal kids in fucking cages. What is there to "learn" from having dialogue for the other side? That we shouldn't separate families at the border? That children, of all creeds, colors, and races, deserve dignity on the basis of being children? What possible "nuance" could you extract from such a dialogue?

Let's call this bullshit for what it is: If you're willing to give this administration a pass because you want to just refrain from being "unfair", "partisan", "neutral", or any other bullshit words you tell yourself just so you can *think* you're better than us who have the courage to stand up for what's right, while you slither away like a serpent in the grass waiting to see how this affair best benefits you? Guess what, you're a goddamn apologist in the BEST case scenario, and at worst, and all the more likely a a passive enabler.

You keep saying this as to not attack other views, but here's the fucking thing. Republicans and their base DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT POLICY. Not in the slightest.

Meanwhile, Democrats maintain fairly consistent opinions about policy, regardless of which party favors it, or who is in power.

  • Exhibit 1: Opinion of Syrian airstrikes under Obama vs. Trump. Source Data 1, Source Data 2 and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 2: Opinion of the NFL after large amounts of players began kneeling during the anthem to protest racism. Article for Context (viewing source data requires purchasing Morning Consult package)

  • Exhibit 3: Opinion of ESPN after they fired a conservative broadcast analyst. Article for Context (viewing source data requires purchasing YouGov's "BrandIndex" package)

  • Exhibit 4: Opinion of Vladimir Putin after Trump began praising Russia during the election. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 5: Opinion of "Obamacare" vs. "Kynect" (Kentucky's implementation of Obamacare). Kentuckians feel differently about the policy depending on the name. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 6: Christians (particularly evangelicals) became monumentally more tolerant of private immoral conduct among politicians once Trump became the GOP nominee. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 7: White Evangelicals cared less about how religious a candidate was once Trump became the GOP nominee. (Same source and article as previous exhibit.)

  • Exhibit 8: Republicans were far more likely to embrace a certain policy if they knew Trump was for it—whether the policy was liberal or conservative. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 9: Republicans became far more opposed to gun control when Obama took office. Democrats have remained consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 10: Republicans started to think college education is a bad thing once Trump entered the primary. Democrats remain consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 11: Wisconsin Republicans felt the economy improve by 85 approval points the day Trump was sworn in. Graph also shows some Democratic bias, but not nearly as bad. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 12: Republicans became deeply negative about trade agreements when Trump became the GOP frontrunner. Democrats remain consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 13: 10% fewer Republicans believed the wealthy weren't paying enough in taxes once a billionaire became their president. Democrats remain fairly consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 14: Republicans suddenly feel very comfortable making major purchases now that Trump is president. Democrats don't feel more or less comfortable than before. Article for Context (viewing source data requires purchasing Gallup's Advanced Analytics package)

  • Exhibit 15: Democrats have had a consistently improving outlook on the economy, including after Trump's victory. Republicans? A 30-point spike once Trump won. Source Data and Article for Context

Sorry, but there actually IS such a thing as black and white no matter how many times you want to put your head in the sand, and pretend otherwise. But in conclusion: if you want to stay on the sidelines and simply chastised "both sides" because you feel like an intellectual (which couldn't be further from the truth).

Fuck that, and fuck you.

Holy shit, this post should be mandatory to read. Quoted again for posterity.
 

Wamb0wneD

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
18,735

Wackamole

Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,942
I agree. Both reset's and gaf's current communities have each their strengths and their flaws, just any other community anywhere else. Picking two or three bad examples and using them to discredit an entire place doesn't seem to serve much purpose besides spreading hate. Especially when there's plenty of members who lurk on both forums.
Well it's not like they're not there. And more than one or three. We just shouldn't become like those people and start dumb lies and hyperbolic bullshit. We can easily beat dumb republican liars with honesty.
 

Wamb0wneD

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
18,735
I agree with the sentiment, but I honestly doubt that most of the people pulling this shit are all that moderate to begin with. It's like reddit, people always throw out the fact that they're moderate or liberal as cover, yet you find them posting all kinds of hateful alt-right bullshit.
Oh for sure, a lot of them know they are full of shit, but some people liek Boogie are just too fucking oblivious to their own standing in society and the problems people who don't belong to that group of people face, not realizing they help to embolden the worst assholes with their bullshit.
 

TheRuralJuror

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,504
Yeah, I insta-ignore someone with a private profile anymore.

I know people can still get to it, but I set mine to private after some guys tried to call me out for lying about owning an Xbox one X of all things because I had changed my mind on the system from one week to the next. Had to take a pic as proof and I was so annoyed with the entire situation, I figured I'd at least add an extra step to the process.

Big reason why I don't even visit gaming much.
 

Armaros

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,901
If you support Trump your told to f*** off now plz inform me how is not censorship I'm not into politics but that's f***** up I going to guess if some site did somthing to Hillary supporters it would be sexist again. Not to politics going what I see

Do you think you are actually fooling anyone?
 

Thepoorman

Member
Apr 5, 2018
64
I just saying if like this site said fuck off Hillary supporters how would you feel all sites should be safe places to talk your mind
 

Coyote Starrk

The Fallen
Oct 30, 2017
53,190
If you support Trump your told to f*** off now plz inform me how is not censorship I'm not into politics but that's f***** up I going to guess if some site did somthing to Hillary supporters it would be sexist again. Not to politics going what I see
Yeah if you support racism, sexism, transphobia and xenophobia you are going to be told to fuck off.


Not seeing a problem here?
 

pizoxuat

Member
Jan 12, 2018
1,458
The net should be safe space where everyone can post ideas

A place where someone can post "queers shouldn't have human rights and will burn in hell" is not a safe space for LGBT people. So you have to choose who gets to feel safe "posting ideas" and RPG.net going to err on the side of not the asshole who wants to remove human rights.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
76,219
Providence, RI
As someone who lurks in both forums, this is completely false. It's fine if you don't like some other places on the internet, but spreading false information to have other posters agree with you is not a very honest thing to do.

I visited GAF for the first time in about 3 months the other day to see how they were reacting to a story. Within 10 minutes, someone was talking about "SJWs," another person used the word "cuck," the word "tranny" was used in the Cyberpunk thread and another person referred to this site as "RetardEra." There is also a literal community thread on GAF dedicated to talking about this forum.

You are unequivocally wrong.
 

Arkanim94

Member
Oct 27, 2017
14,135
I visited GAF for the first time in about 3 months the other day to see how they were reacting to a story. Within 10 minutes, someone was talking about "SJWs," another person used the word "cuck," the word "tranny" was used in the Cyberpunk thread and another person referred to this site as "RetardEra." There is also a literal community thread on GAF dedicated to talking about this forum.

You are unequivocally wrong.
Just a few bad apples I swear.
 

Crossing Eden

Member
Oct 26, 2017
53,401
The censorship of once ideas beliefs or political motives #freeandsave net for all
You don't have a right to any platform if the owners of said platform don't want you there. Otherwise, there would no point to a TOS that specifically outlines that the platform holder can revoke your access if you go against their rules. It's like there's an entire generation of people who were never told to watch their damn mouths and now think they're owed a platform anywhere they choose.
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,293
Nottingham, UK
The censorship of once ideas beliefs or political motives #freeandsave net for all
Mate....

How is having to read hate speech free and safe (?save lol) for all?
Y'all getting baited by a troll.
Eh, I'm not rising, just having fun with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about

Edit - well that went about as expected, is there a collection point for these lemmings ready to jump off a cliff?
 

Deleted member 3058

User requested account closure
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,728
You know what? Fuck it. I"m going on a rant.

You know what the fucking fuck I'm tired of throughout all this entire two years of this dumpster fire of an administration? Yeah, I'm pissed at the racism, but I'm black so I've dealt with that bullshit all my life. Yeah I'm pissed at the GOP for enabling this monster, but really, all of the signs were there that they'd fall in line, way back during the goddamn GWB admin in late '01, early '02. The party has been homophobic since time immemorial, so being Anti-LGBT isn't much of a surprise in the least.

But to get to the point, you know what's been really pissing me off? All the efforts of these so-called "moderates", the vast majority of which (though not all) are straight, white, and male, who are constantly, CONSTANTLY trying, and in some cases succeeding, in trying to gaslight minorities, women, and progressive folk into thinking that all of our criticisms of Trump and his administration, are simply a product of us being "hysterical". All of our cries of trying to be human, there's these shitbag social moderates who would prefer a negative peace, than genuine justice. They say things like "Things are more nuanced" or "Not everything is black and white." And they'd be correct if we weren't talking about cases of literal kids in fucking cages. What is there to "learn" from having dialogue for the other side? That we shouldn't separate families at the border? That children, of all creeds, colors, and races, deserve dignity on the basis of being children? What possible "nuance" could you extract from such a dialogue?

Let's call this bullshit for what it is: If you're willing to give this administration a pass because you want to just refrain from being "unfair", "partisan", "neutral", or any other bullshit words you tell yourself just so you can *think* you're better than us who have the courage to stand up for what's right, while you slither away like a serpent in the grass waiting to see how this affair best benefits you? Guess what, you're a goddamn apologist in the BEST case scenario, and at worst, and all the more likely a a passive enabler.

You keep saying this as to not attack other views, but here's the fucking thing. Republicans and their base DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT POLICY. Not in the slightest.

Meanwhile, Democrats maintain fairly consistent opinions about policy, regardless of which party favors it, or who is in power.

  • Exhibit 1: Opinion of Syrian airstrikes under Obama vs. Trump. Source Data 1, Source Data 2 and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 2: Opinion of the NFL after large amounts of players began kneeling during the anthem to protest racism. Article for Context (viewing source data requires purchasing Morning Consult package)

  • Exhibit 3: Opinion of ESPN after they fired a conservative broadcast analyst. Article for Context (viewing source data requires purchasing YouGov's "BrandIndex" package)

  • Exhibit 4: Opinion of Vladimir Putin after Trump began praising Russia during the election. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 5: Opinion of "Obamacare" vs. "Kynect" (Kentucky's implementation of Obamacare). Kentuckians feel differently about the policy depending on the name. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 6: Christians (particularly evangelicals) became monumentally more tolerant of private immoral conduct among politicians once Trump became the GOP nominee. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 7: White Evangelicals cared less about how religious a candidate was once Trump became the GOP nominee. (Same source and article as previous exhibit.)

  • Exhibit 8: Republicans were far more likely to embrace a certain policy if they knew Trump was for it—whether the policy was liberal or conservative. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 9: Republicans became far more opposed to gun control when Obama took office. Democrats have remained consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 10: Republicans started to think college education is a bad thing once Trump entered the primary. Democrats remain consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 11: Wisconsin Republicans felt the economy improve by 85 approval points the day Trump was sworn in. Graph also shows some Democratic bias, but not nearly as bad. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 12: Republicans became deeply negative about trade agreements when Trump became the GOP frontrunner. Democrats remain consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 13: 10% fewer Republicans believed the wealthy weren't paying enough in taxes once a billionaire became their president. Democrats remain fairly consistent. Source Data and Article for Context

  • Exhibit 14: Republicans suddenly feel very comfortable making major purchases now that Trump is president. Democrats don't feel more or less comfortable than before. Article for Context (viewing source data requires purchasing Gallup's Advanced Analytics package)

  • Exhibit 15: Democrats have had a consistently improving outlook on the economy, including after Trump's victory. Republicans? A 30-point spike once Trump won. Source Data and Article for Context

Sorry, but there actually IS such a thing as black and white no matter how many times you want to put your head in the sand, and pretend otherwise. But in conclusion: if you want to stay on the sidelines and simply chastised "both sides" because you feel like an intellectual (which couldn't be further from the truth).

Fuck that, and fuck you.
This is an exceptional and well sourced post. I understand and fully agree with your frustrations.
 

TheRuralJuror

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,504
I just saying if like this site said fuck off Hillary supporters how would you feel all sites should be safe places to talk your mind

Can't say I'd give a single shit. Either way, that's not the situation, so spare us the made up scenarios. I don't blame them in this case. You don't like it, don't visit. Liberals are always expected to turn the other cheek and avoid things, but when shitty right views get brushed aside, it's censorship. I don't subscribe to that way of thinking.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,988
I've been thinking about this over night and I think Era should put their money in where their mouth is and ban both Trump support, GOP support and Tories support. That would be consistent with what the vocal userbase screams for and posts they report and dogpile on. A private forum absolutely has the right to set its own policies.

Why I believe it hasn't been done is that its at odds with the aspiration people have for this forum to have the prominence GAF had, being the gaming forum, which wouldn't happen shutting out roughly half (assuming similar makeup has general population) of the userbase. I'd wager a large, silent proportion of the user base are if not Trump supporters, at least conservatives.

As always, financial gains are at the bottom of it. Understanding who actually owns Era and profits of it, and what their political view is should give a good indication of whether the forum is likely to align with its vocal users views. As long as we don't know that, hoping for a Trump ban is a coin toss.

No, there's no money or mouth in this context, that entire post is ridiculous.
 

zenspider

Banned
Nov 7, 2017
1,583
Plenty, but not enough to stop Trump from literally taking the entire party over.

Where are all of these reasonable conservatives stepping in to stop the horrors that are occurring in America right now? Oh right there's like 6 of them alive today. The Republican party and conservatism has been completely changed to the party of hate. Deal with it.

If you're a Republican in 2018 you still support Trump. I've met a few FORMER republicans who are voting for democrats in the midterms but lol

At least we've somewhat moved from an absolute position to a more nuanced one - somewhat.

Obviously there are some Republicans who are not supporting Trump, and it's got to be obvious that not all Republicans believe they belong to the "party of hate" - even if you want to argue that ipso facto it is, you have to believe that good people good intentions are simply wrong or being fooled. I hope we can all agree on that at least.

We can argue about this, and you're probably right that the anti-Trump Republicans are ineffectual in the political process, but isn't it more important to trt and build some bridges, find the common ground, than continue to blanket label, generalize, catastrophize, and think in black-and-white terms?

We do that with free and open discussion - and should be willing and able to do that with people we don't agree with on every point, right?

That's the heart of my original post. Banning people who openly support the President from conversation is just appalling behavior for anyone who is going to pretend the want to have open and free dialogues.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
Member
Dec 24, 2017
17,665
Obviously there are some Republicans who are not supporting Trump, and it's got to be obvious that not all Republicans believe they belong to the "party of hate" - even if you want to argue that ipso facto it is, you have to believe that good people good intentions are simply wrong or being fooled. I hope we can all agree on that at least.
Nah, it's their own fault if they don't know any better, all the resources are available to them to understand why, they just choose not to listen. I couldn't give a shit about their intentions, it's the result that matters.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,846
I visited GAF for the first time in about 3 months the other day to see how they were reacting to a story. Within 10 minutes, someone was talking about "SJWs," another person used the word "cuck," the word "tranny" was used in the Cyberpunk thread and another person referred to this site as "RetardEra." There is also a literal community thread on GAF dedicated to talking about this forum.

You are unequivocally wrong.

Yep. The community thread dedicated to ResetEra is tablespoon of legitimate criticism mixed with a heaping cup of argumentation that is indistinguishable from right-wing social media comments. It's kind of remarkable how much the site has shifted. Guess the Earthworm Jim guy likes it just fine now.