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Soralight8

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Could Geno really ruffle square feathers that much I mean everyone knew Geno will be in before sora or someone else
 

BGA

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I don't see it being Sora as the rumored Square rep due to the likely high license cost.
 

Datajoy

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Angola / Zaire border region.

Okabe

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Wanna ruffle some feathers?

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VegiHam

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Zelda and Kirby both have their core cast playable other than maybe Bandana Dee.
Captain Toad I agree with.
Non starter Pokemon, yeah sure, Buzzwole, Tapu Koko or Mimikyu would have been cool, but this is just being fussy imo. A Pokemon is a Pokemon.
Uprising got both Palutena and Dark Pit in 4, more in Ultimate would be way overkill.
Again, Robin and Corrin were both added in 4. I mean yeah they both technically hold a sword but they're a mage and a dragon shapeshifter mostly.
Shulk was in 4, XC2 is too recent for the base roster, so I guess you want Elma? Her game didn't sell very well so with a lower amount of newcomers it makes sense to skip over her.
And then yeah after that you're going into niche deep cuts.

It's fine to want who you want but be realistic and don't be disappointed.
Dude all your logic is sound; but none of these are specific requests, just ideas of the sort of things I'd like. I think it's pretty realistic to expect that the entire newcomer lineup wouldn't be characters from games I've never played; so I'm just frustrated at my bad luck.
 

RedAhmed

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Mega Man and Castlevania both aren't big anywhere right now. They got in because they used to be big. From a museum/Japanese gaming history perspective DQ definitely makes sense to have. From a currently popular/relevancy perspective Sora definitely makes more sense.
Relevancy doesn't mean a thing in this case, again Mega Man and Castlevania are a good example. Mega Man was added while his series was regarded "dead", Castlevania hasn't seen a new release in years and only has a series and ports gong on currently.

And you say they were added because they used to be big, and that's the reason why I think DQ has a shot. Because it was and still is big, bigger than those 2 series. And not only for Japan, but for the whole gaming industry. DQ is what made JRPG's similar to what Street Fighter was for 2D fighters. And it's a good time for DQ in the West, with us getting spin offs like DQ Heroes and Builders, along with a new main line title with DQXI.

Because of that, I think it would be a bigger deal than Sora being in Smash.
 

TheFireman

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I think a lot of the leaks have been really cool. But realistically, Inkling is in. Ridley is in. K Rool is in. I've gotten the most realistic newcomers I've actually wanted. There's no way that Thursday can disappoint me much, if at all.
 

Voxl

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Usually on live videos you can just scroll backwards and start watching from the start even if the event is still going. The separate upload usually goes up within minutes of the livestream ending.


I'm aware. And I honestly hesitated to even put it on the list. But that is definitely the list of big omissions as of now.
mhmm... I dunno. Rathalos is already confirmed as a Boss-Enemy. Could be possible.
 

Gold Arsene

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"The core cast is already in" will never not be a dumb excuse for me regarding Zelda.

One of the core cast is a clone of someone from a different franchise on top of two more clones.

I really don't get people acting like wanting at least one more unique character for the franchise is asking for to much while we keep getting new Pokémon.
 
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I think a lot of the leaks have been really cool. But realistically, Inkling is in. Ridley is in. K Rool is in. I've gotten the most realistic newcomers I've actually wanted. There's no way that Thursday can disappoint me much, if at all.

Sakurai: "After analyzing some of the comments and reactions to the newcomers and theorized leaks, we've decided to retroactively remove all announced characters and only add the T block from Tetris."
 

LinkStrikesBack

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Well for one, almost no one knows who the hell Neku is and his single game is super niche. Sora is super popular, iconic, and his game franchise is known worldwide.

But... Anyone who actually has been playing kingdom hearts has to also be aware of neku because the TWEWY cast were in a world in the prior game (DDD), right?
 

Phendrift

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Holy crap I go to sleep and wake up to 40 new pages. Can someone tell me if there's some new info?
- Our very own Masozi saw a leak of a non-Vergeben first party rep (so not Incineroar), but is still trying to verify it. It's a 30 second video.

- Vergeben said Isaac is an AT

- Imran just said "don't be surprised if a big third party character is not present on Thursday's direct and instead comes later"
 

NotLiquid

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Mystic thinks the third party rep is "shocking" huh

It's Sora, possibly even with Disney characters in his Final Smash
 

Benzychenz

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"The core cast is already in" will never not be a dumb excuse for me regarding Zelda.

One of the core cast is a clone of someone from a different franchise on top of two more clones.

I really don't get people acting like wanting at least one more unique character for the franchise is asking for to much while we keep getting new Pokémon.
I mean I agree with you, I'm clearly on #TeamSkullKid here.

But look at the newcomers we've gotten so far, they're filling in pretty glaring gaps in the roster to make this game live up to it's name of Ultimate. Zelda doesn't need anyone else to be complete right now like Metroid and Donkey Kong did.
 

MayorSquirtle

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Could Geno really ruffle square feathers that much I mean everyone knew Geno will be in before sora or someone else
Square-Enix seems like the type of company who would get really angry about ANY leak, whether it was expected or not. After all, if someone is leaking relatively minor information now, they're sure to leak major information that they may get their hands on in the future.
 

TheFireman

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Nope, I don't agree with him on anything.

But I wish Mystic well and I hope things get better in his personal life. He seems like a cool person.

Oh wow.

This makes things more complicated.

I think that Verg is wrong at this point. I don't think Minecraft content is in without Banjo, I don't think Isaac is an AT.
 

TDLink

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mhmm... I dunno. Rathalos is already confirmed as a Boss-Enemy. Could be possible.
Yeah, in a sense that is better than a character for MH anyways as far as accurate representation goes. And honestly Rathalos' presence decreases a need for a whole character to rep the series.

But... Anyone who actually has been playing kingdom hearts has to also be aware of neku because the TWEWY cast were in a world in the prior game (DDD), right?
Lol, not at all. Not all KH fans are the die hards who play every game and comb over every detail. Plenty of KH fans have never touched DDD. Even people who have probably weren't aware they were from something rather than just being new original KH characters.

And now I realize you may have been sarcastic...
 

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Yeah with Emily's comment it seems like Isaac is definitely out. If we go by Imran's comment about no big 3rd party rep, then the SE character Vergeben is talking about can only be Geno.

Ken/Incineroar/Geno/...someone
 

Phendrift

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I'm just gonna straight up ask just to try put the nail in the casket once and for all lol:

Emily is the box Theory real? Meaning - are there only one newcomer and one echo left for the base roster?
 
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