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BGBW

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Interesting.

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Goodstyle

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Listening to the GameXplain "speculation" video intently because they've all but confirmed they have insider information. The British dude in particular loves to say "predictions" as if he's guessing when he's just saying shit he's heard, and mixing that in with joke predictions. The sense I'm getting from them is that Ken/Incineroar are definitely in, but Andre and the British guy doubt Isaac, and the Brit doubts Shadow... which makes me sad. They're also doubting Banjo... which seems obvious.

I'm onto your game GameXplain!
 

Weiss

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To be honest I'd be a little let down. I like Geno well enough but I feel like he ought to be brought in on top of another Square character, not being the Square character.

The company has such a rich cast of characters, and a lot of them would be great in Smash. Seems a little strange to get on a company juggernaut's best graces just for the sake of a one-off side character.

It's entirely possible if not likely that Sakurai tried to get Sora and Erdrick before Geno and things didn't pan out due to licensing.
 

NotLiquid

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It's entirely possible if not likely that Sakurai tried to get Sora and Erdrick before Geno and things didn't pan out due to licensing.
True. I haven't considered the possibility.

Whatever the outcome, I feel confident in saying Sakurai probably wanted to hit the sweetspot of 70 unique characters total for Ultimate.
 

RochHoch

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Listening to the GameXplain "speculation" video intently because they've all but confirmed they have insider information. The British dude in particular loves to say "predictions" as if he's guessing when he's just saying shit he's heard, and mixing that in with joke predictions. The sense I'm getting from them is that Ken/Incineroar are definitely in, but Andre and the British guy doubt Isaac, and the Brit doubts Shadow... which makes me sad. They're also doubting Banjo... which seems obvious.

I'm onto your game GameXplain!
I don't have time to watch the video, but who has what to say about Geno?
 

tenderbrew

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God I'm just excited to know. Not going to say I don't have a preference, but mine would be:

Dixie, Incineroar, Ken... Square rep I'd love it to be Chrono Trigger rep. Those 4 would make me happy.
 

Geno

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GameXplain put themselves in this awkward position where they either have to "predict" what they know or purposely predict what isn't in the game, this video is probably a mix of the 2.
 

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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Kingdom Hearts without Disney is a husk. Including Sora without anything from Disney just feels wrong and antithesis to the series. Now, Sakurai may be okay with bending the rules for background, moveset, or AT characters so I'm not saying Sora would be a bad pick. Just, to represent him properly, you need that stuff.

And I'm sure Sakurai knows this, too, so. Don't get your hopes up unless you're okay with Donald and Goofy in a FS or something.

Anyway, I trust Emily above all these other people, so it does seem like the Grinch leak is fake, so now I wanna know- how'd they do it? Such skill for a fake with very minor inconsistencies that are easily explained away is nothing to snort at.
 

Oswen

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So if we put the pieces together we may end up with something like:

Incineroar and Ken are in.
Shadow and Isaac are back as ATs.
Mach Rider and Chorus Kids are normal trophies.
Banjo is not in the game.
Geno ???
A surprise character, maybe even two. One could be from a third party (SE?).
 

drclaw411

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I'm listening to Gamexplain right now. I'm not all the way through it yet, but it really does sound like it's Ken and Incineroar to close things out. Especially based on what John is saying.
 

Tribal_Cult

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I've said it before, I'll say it again. Kingdom Hearts without Disney is a husk. Including Sora without anything from Disney just feels wrong and antithesis to the series. Now, Sakurai may be okay with bending the rules for background, moveset, or AT characters so I'm not saying Sora would be a bad pick. Just, to represent him properly, you need that stuff.

And I'm sure Sakurai knows this, too, so. Don't get your hopes up unless you're okay with Donald and Goofy in a FS or something.

Anyway, I trust Emily above all these other people, so it does seem like the Grinch leak is fake, so now I wanna know- how'd they do it? Such skill for a fake with very minor inconsistencies that are easily explained away is nothing to snort at.

Again, the Disney characters created for Kingdom Hearts are original. They share their appearance with the original Disney characters, but they are part of Kingdom Hearts' world. It's a similar situation for Dracula from Castlevania: he is a character originated from a book, but this particular Dracula is one of the countless recreations of the character made specifically for a videogame. So I would totally be OK to see them in, even if making them playable would be a little too much.
 
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