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What are you getting?

  • Nothing!

    Votes: 333 49.1%
  • MacBook Air

    Votes: 54 8.0%
  • Mac mini

    Votes: 64 9.4%
  • iPad Pro 11”

    Votes: 150 22.1%
  • iPad Pro 12.9”

    Votes: 117 17.3%

  • Total voters
    678

Protome

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,677
The MacBook lineup is so messy now yikes

The entry level Macs now include:

MacBook 12"
MacBook Air old body for $999
MacBook Air new body
MacBook Pro no Touchbar

All sold at the same time
I'm really surprised they kept the Pro with no Touch Bar around. It's a bad machine and there's no good reason to ever own one when there are better alternatives that either cost only a little more or do a little less.
 

johan

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,554
The pencil being more expensive is kinda bullshit but the combo is still better value than a wacom
 

Daitokuji

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,602
I guess they felt "well we gotta have something for sale at the $1k price" lol

Not sure what the point of the 12" macbook is now. More expensive, smaller screen, fewer ports. I think the Macbook was supposed to replace the Macbook Air but it didn't so they had to come up with the Macbook Air retina. I wonder if they will quietly discontinue the Macbook at some point.
 

awilliams213

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,200
CT
12.9" iPad Pro 256GB w/pencil ordered. I live on my current iPad w/ Clip Studio and Procreate. The spec bump and USB-C second screen possibilities are so damn cool.
 

killer_clank

Member
Oct 25, 2017
836
WHAT THE FUCK?!

£769 for the new iPad Pro.

That's an increase of £150...!

I'm out.



Yep.

And not by a little bit, but a lot.


They've been doing it for years, in the Steve Jobs era they would introduce a better product for the same price or sometimes less, now they don't even hide the blatant price increases on every product line near enough every year.
 

MrKlaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,038
I'm guessing $1299 for base and up from there.

replying before seeing the price as I'm catching up - but why? Its a faster chip but they always do that. New connector - well they had a magnetic smart connector before and you still have to buy the pencil separately. Smaller bezels - ok a design change.

There isn't anything fundamentally different to last years that isn't a relatively normal evolution of the product - nothing to justify a massive jump in price anyway.
 
Oct 30, 2017
887
Man, Apple's product pages are always so gorgeous. I always look forward to browsing them and seeing what kind of navigation flourishes they've decided to implement. Always absolutely top tier stuff in terms of layout and design.
 

unrealist

Member
Oct 27, 2017
757
I wonder if I will ever live to see a $5k iPad, since there is inflation and Apple marking up prices annually..
 

mattiewheels

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,107
So they increased prices on every single thing they showed, and I see a lot of resignment in here so I guess they can get away with it. I miss when upgrades kept the same price structure.
 

Hubologist

Member
Nov 1, 2017
1,119
so apple raised every single price, right?
Looks like it. I think you can argue the new hardware in the iPad Pro makes it worth it, but not so much for the Air and Mini.

I will wait patiently for a fat Staples coupon and cop a new Pro + Pencil.

So they increased prices on every single thing they showed, and I see a lot of resignment in here so I guess they can get away with it.
Apple pricing has never been sensible. They are luxury consumer electronics.
 

BAD

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,565
USA
So what's the best MacBook value now?

Seems like MacBook Pro is the best value? Followed by new Air?

The old Air has a shit screen, the MacBook 12" is dated inside now and hardly different from new Air, the MacBook Pro no Touch Bar is also old now
 

Tbm24

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,222
I was all set to get an iPad Pro until I saw that 64GB->256GB price jump. So sad.
If you make heavy use of icloud, dealing with 64gb actually seems super manageable. My wife's iPad Pro is 128gb and all she does really is draw on it. Her data usage on it is like 20gb when all is said and done. All photos go to our icloud storage.
 

The Real Abed

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,720
Pennsylvania
A maxed out Mac mini is $4199 with 3.6GHz i7, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD and the better Ethernet.

Interestingly. If you choose the bottom model, the processor upgrade is for an i7 with no i5 option. But the second model starts with an i5 but is also $1099 to start. Gonna have to look over my options if I plan on getting one. They don't even offer the old version as an entry anymore.

Is the RAM in the mini user upgradable still?
 

kiguel182

Member
Oct 31, 2017
9,440
I guess the price-creep on this stuff won't end.

The MacBook product line is a mess right now, they need to clean that up. Some devices are outdated and they are all competing in price except for the more expensive ones. It's a mess.

The iPad Pro seems like a true Pro device. Shame the price but I think for iPad users it's totally justifiable if it's your work device.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,927
Echoing others, I forgot that it's 150 bucks to go to the next storage size on the iPads. That's going to give me pause for now.

Mac Mini question: I use this as a home server, a Plex server, and media conversion platform. Should I upgrade the CPU and get the 10Gb Ethernet? I'm currently using a 2011 Mac Mini that is dying.

Someone said this was the base processor. Any guesses on what the upgraded one is to compare?
 

Deleted member 3812

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
8,821
Here's the press release for the new iPad Pro: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2018...n-design-is-most-advanced-powerful-ipad-ever/

Press release confirms that the Apple Pencil has wireless charging capability and that the USB-C port in the iPad Pro can charge phones:

A second-generation Apple Pencil magnetically attaches to iPad Pro and wirelessly charges at the same time.

New Power and Possibilities with USB-C

A new USB-C connector replaces the Lightning connector in support of the powerful ways iPad Pro is used. Incredibly versatile, USB-C offers power for charging, supports USB 3.1 Gen 2 for high-bandwidth data transfers up to twice the speed to and from cameras and musical instruments, and drives external displays up to 5K. With USB-C, iPad Pro can even be used to charge an iPhone.
 

killer_clank

Member
Oct 25, 2017
836
Apple raised prices by 20% after the Brexit vote as the value of the British Pound dropped. Then it went up again against the dollar, but they just kept the pricing.

Even despite the Brexit drop in the pound, £1 is $0.79 USD and apple just map 1-1 on pricing. Admittedly our price includes tax but there's unbelievable price gouging going on for every non-USD currency. They increase the USD price and then treat every other currency like shit on top of that.
 

Vuze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,186
Disgusting Euro prices. I'm not gonna pay 900 bucks for that pity of a spec Mac Mini.