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RPG.net bans support of Trump on their forums
- Thread starter Jintor
- Start date
The smart play is taking a proactive stance against bullshit and poison.
Don't normalize "nationalism," don't normalize white supremacists by calling them "very fine people," don't malign Mexicans as "rapists," don't impugn a judge's impartiality because he's "Mexican."
Supporting Trump is not acceptable. Period. If you voted for him (or actively support him offline) you should not feel like it's okay to post about it here.
Yeah, it's very well written. I like the warning and alert system we have here, but I think mods need to tighten things up, and go back to making clear what is and isn't acceptable.
Like digging up old posts as a "gotcha", saying things like "of course you have an anime avatar", calls for violent revolution, trying to Trump trap someone who isn't talking about Trump related policy/actions, and shit like that.
I've been guilty of a couple of those things, and I don't feel bad about it, but it can be a detriment to discussion here.
This. Cant have an honest discussion with someone who isn't honest with themselves. See it with my family over and over, they would regularly call Obama a nigger and then claim to care about policy or any other form of nonsense as they fear and spread hate to non white people.
When I would point out their obvious racism and frequent use of such slurs they would lose their shit as if I broke some cardinal rule in accurately calling them racist.
If the racists have won any victory lately its that their open racism is continually discounted as we weakly search for deeper non racist motives.
Its racism, the basis and motive is racism.
kbear, if you are unable to participate in these threads for fear of being banned, or because of moderator rules or whatever, don't PM me with the same nonsense because that is functionally identical to you posting in this thread. thanks.
Please please please do this, era. Progressives bed to start taking moral standard against this shit. Purge it.
It should be pretty clear. An unreasonable persons vote counts exactly the same as a rational persons.
FYI, to any mods or whoever read this, all I PM'ed him was "Obama had two terms" (in reference to the drone strikes), that's literally it. And I shouldn't have done that because the poster he was talking to replied with the same point a minute later. I shouldn't have PM'ed you but I'm trying to ween myself off this stuff. I can't remember a time with more tension than we have now a week before mid terms. It's crazy.
Right wing posters are generally intrinsically ambiguous and dishonest about their opinions for fear of being banned, it's very difficult to not need to get more info in figuring if someone is worth a conversation under these conditions. Looking at someone's post history or showing them to be disingenuous when you find that stuff out whilst trying to parse their reasoning
You PM'd me as well with more than that. How many people did you PM here because you just can't control yourself?
User Banned (Permanent): Harassing members via PM. History of disruptive behaviour.
Because you name dropped me and said something I felt was unfair. Is that cool? The PM wasn't offensive or insulting or anything. I requesfes you not mention me like that due to the disingenuous nature of it. Kreijooc and you are the only people I've PM'ed, and Kreijooc's was literally three words. I'm trying to ween myself off politics discussion. A quarter of my posts here were as such.
Kudos to that forum's moderation team. That's what integrity expressed through clear, consice language looks like.
The continuing coddling of right wing trolls here who love to skirt around the rules such as kbear or ishan is super disturbing and makes me worry about the future of this forum.
The continuing coddling of right wing trolls here who love to skirt around the rules such as kbear or ishan is super disturbing and makes me worry about the future of this forum.
I'm sorry, but when you PM me bragging about how you made a special deal with the mods to avoid getting punished, and then proceed to keep doing it anyways, do you think you're being smart? You aren't banned, you had no official warning that anyone could see. It's completely fair, and I'm honestly not even sure if you'll get punished for breaking that deal.
"Special deal"? "Bragging"? Like, what? None of that was in the PM. I had broken no rules and no "deal" was done to avoid punishment. Kidding me? If you'd like to continue this, PM me. Otherwise, I don't know what to say.
I 100% support this. Trump supporters are vile, and their views are vile, and they shouldn't be allowed to sully public discourse on any subject by spreading those views.
In our current environment
If you hold the views that are being called on on both ERA and RPG.net
Expect to be challenged and held to account for them
Sorry but we don't get to go back to the days of pretending to entertain this shit for "idealistic version of academic debate" when there is legit blood on the ground
If you hold the views that are being called on on both ERA and RPG.net
Expect to be challenged and held to account for them
Sorry but we don't get to go back to the days of pretending to entertain this shit for "idealistic version of academic debate" when there is legit blood on the ground
Instead of getting a warning or a ban, you were told to stay out of political threads. That's more leeway than anyone else gets, so yes, that is a special deal. You even mention in the PM that you were told to not talk about this stuff any more, and yet here you are, still PM'ing people and popping into political threads. It's a joke how much you get away with here
Seeing frequent 2 day bans for repeat offending trolls has made me visit less. Why is ROAM even allowed to stay here? His bigotry is legendary and we all know who he actually is.
If you are trying to ween yourself off posting in political topics, PMing members to reply to their comments privately is not doing that. Regardless, my post was not an invitation to talk to me about Obama, and doing so misses the point of what I was saying. Regarding your PM, however, ok I'm willing to admit that anybody who supported Obama also supported his ability to call drone strikes, and they should probably own up to the fact that their decision enabled that. However, given that there was no candidate who would have realistically ended drone strikes, I don't think when weighed against the other policies they enabled by voting for Obama, that obama voters should feel too terrible. By contrast, the things people hate about trump are things that explicitly only trump was promising. You can point to a number of awful policies enabled by voting for trump that absolutely would not have flown under any other candidate, and the people who support trump for flimsy reasons need to own up to the fact that they support some awful shit coming from exclusively one candidate.
I've seen people get temp banned for stuff then come back with the exact same behavior and get away with it. I respect the hard work our mods do, but enforcement is unfortunately inconsistent and it allows for people who just play on the boundary of the rules to get away with it.
Haha they pulled the same shit with me several weeks ago. There are Trump supporters on this forum that are smart and know how to skirt the rules to avoid bans while poking and prodding. People need to stop being naive and thinking they are looking for honest good faith discussion.
Theres a reason they can't have an honest debate and discuss their support. There's a reason they duck and hide when you bring up Trumps and the GOPs open homophobic and anti-Transgender platform. Logically if you conclude you can't discuss your support of Trump and the GOP in good faith because it will get you banned for violating a basic anti-racism and anti-bigotry ToS that should tell anyone with sense all you need to know.
One can create echo chambers and safe spaces, this won't change a thing. Dialogue is still the only option imo, even if it's with people you despise. We know where we'll end when we stop dialogue, history is full of it.
But atleast I'm happy RPG.net is real clear on where they stand. I hope ResetERA gives their point of view on this matter.
But atleast I'm happy RPG.net is real clear on where they stand. I hope ResetERA gives their point of view on this matter.
Alright, so the TOS was broken about 10 times in that thread and it wasn't by me... I don't even care, like in terms of the profanity and insults and whatever. I didn't report anything. Obviously, I wouldn't have sent you a PM requesting not to namedrop me if you hadn't namedropped me. I'd appreciate it if you can refrain from doing so in the future. Is that cool?
Echo Chambers are inevitable but we have gone so far away from reasonable and respectful debate in public spheres that its kind of silly to invoke this mantra
One of the reasons is that we are debating things that shouldnt even be up for debate in the first place
Until our culture adjusts to treating others with respect and gets away from unfair treatment of large swaths of people for merely existing we dont get to live in the world you describe
Like that fantastic moderation post laid out, there's no point of view discussion to be had with Trump supporters at this point. Nothing of value is being lost.
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Seriously, this is how similar rhetoric should be met. Stop being polite about it. Shine a light on the hate and attempt to marginalize and harm people and say no, gtfo.
Trump supporters don't want an honest dialogue, ever. They without fail fall to whataboutisms, obfuscation, dodging questions , etc.
This makes no sense. Conservative politics arent reasonable viewpoints and they are a hate group.