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DF HDR Analysis : RDR2 has Fake HDR (update: new HDR fix update 14th May)
- Thread starter Mr Delabee
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but given the implementation i dont think the fact that it can hit 500 nits in hdr means anything. it would be like someone watching poorly calibrated sdr.
Do you remember writing this?
You've got nothing to lose by turning on HDR in Red Dead Redemption 2
See above.
I knew something was wrong with this games shitty HDR implementation. Hopefully they can fix it in a patch, because the current HDR implementation ruins the looks of this game.
Just leave it off since there are no real reasons to have it on. This reminds me alot of MHW where HDR didn't do anything.
I'd like to point out that Forza Horizon 4, Gears 4, Sea of Thieves and Forza 7 are at the absolute top of HDR too.
How can I turn off hdr in game? Is it possible or does it have to be at the system level on the X? My projector is 8 bit and this game displays odd colors in bright whites on it. Prefer to try sdr and see if I can get rid of that.
Agree there for the PS4 titles and Xbox One titles - all excellent HDR games. Shame for Rockstar - should have just released it without any.
This is what gets me. People mare making excuses for Rockstar like HDR isn't common or hasn't been done successfully on so many other titles. There really is no excuse for this.
I remember writing:
You've got nothing to lose by turning on HDR in Red Dead Redemption 2 but nothing to gain either and this begs the question - what's the point in it being there?
Given most people's experiences both before and after the article was published, it is simply quicker and easier to obtain the best result in SDR.
That's not to say you can't possibly get a good result in HDR.
System level only on Xbox. Which is why I will leave it on. Not going to keep toggling back and forth for one game, especially considering HDR looks fine (but based on article findings doesn't really add anything either).
My above reply is one good reason to leave it on...if you have an Xbox.
Yeah I find HDR version fine - but no clearly isn't a title that does it any good. I switched to SDR and it was just the same so for my X I'm leaving it on currently as there is no benefit either way.
Can't see Rockstar doing anything about it either
Yeah same for me - because its a pain to turn off when most other titles work fine. Should go the PS4 route and add the option to all HDR games to turn it off in-game I feel.
This is a damn shame. I would love for this to fixed but I am not going to hold my breath.
It's also a shame that on the Xbox One X, I can't turn off HDR in game. I have to turn it off at a system level. Which means before I play any other games with good HDR implementation, I have to turn it back on on a system level.
May seem like a nit pick but having a toggle in game would be much better. Why is there a toggle on PS4 but not Xbox in game?
It's also a shame that on the Xbox One X, I can't turn off HDR in game. I have to turn it off at a system level. Which means before I play any other games with good HDR implementation, I have to turn it back on on a system level.
May seem like a nit pick but having a toggle in game would be much better. Why is there a toggle on PS4 but not Xbox in game?
Waiting for the inevitable PSV launch version with improved bells and whistles. Have too many games and Pro version looks like the worst of the 2. If I had a 1x, I'd get it but to me it's too late this gen to get a new system for this game.
Yeah, that's one of the main reason Witcher 3 HDR implementation still sucks as of today
well, at least it's not fake. You also have games like Final Fantasy XV, which started development a million years ago, and still managed to impliment real HDR.
Glad I stuck with HDR off after just a brief test. Didn't really need an in-depth article to know something was wrong with it.
But great to have it none the less so the users who thought the HDR-issue folks were just not calibrating the settings properly can see too.
But great to have it none the less so the users who thought the HDR-issue folks were just not calibrating the settings properly can see too.
so you can set this value to 100. this mean rdr2 will tell a tv the content's peak brightness is 100 nits right? and a tv, taking this info in good faith will scale everything that's not pure white to be < 100 nits producing a hella dim image?
It's not ideal and not what was expected, but I think I'll stick to utilizing it. I tried switching back and forth on it all morning on my XBX and while obviously not the best "HDR", I still think the game looks better and more natural with it on my TV. I can only imagine how amazing the game would look if it worked correctly.
Im happy with it, only really had good experiences with HDR untill Red Dead. God of War in particular looks stunning on it.
Terrible. I prefer it on because i like the pop colors get as opposed to it off and i know good image quality when i see it.
Xbox One X and KS8000 here. Standard HDR settings on my TV and I have the in-game HDR slider at 250 as well. Looks solid to me. I thought when I turned HDR off on my Xbox and went back to RDR2 it looked way less natural and the contrast was too high.
Turning off "HDR" brings the colour and inky blacks back to my OLED. It's startling how much better night time looks in particular.
Really sad that in 2018,an AAA game looks better with HDR off then on...oh well,maybe since they started this like 5 years ago and all,I will give them a pass and also wait for an official comment from Rockstar,if they even address it(also at least in looks great with no HDR also lol)
My OLED is on the less bright side of HDR and RDR HDR looks like turds.
Did you read the article? They are stretching an SDR image to fill an HDR colorspace. That's not real HDR, and it's exactly the reason people who have functioning eyes and understand what HDR should be don't think it looks good. If the game rendered at 1080p and then internally upscaled to 4k would you call it a "4k game"? Unless you work for Sony the answer should be no.
You have to disable HDR in system settings on the Xbox as RDR2 doesn't have a toggle for it. Utterly stupid of R* to not include a toggle in the game
Seeing the entire statement you made is a lot different than the little clip they pulled from said statement; makes more sense
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I like HDR on. I don't know, but I like the look of it - not to saturated imo. I'll keep it on but glad the people here and DF looked into it. Good job Era.
Go into the settings menu, select video output settings, then un-check "HDR". Eazy Peezy
He really knows his stuff, great channel. I must have watch 20 of his videos before I bought my 4K screen.
Since a firmware update on my TV my One X no longer detects my TV as HDR, which was frustrating while I was playing Assassin's Creed: Origins before Red Dead's release. The PS4 Pro HDR still works, but I got RDR II on the X. It seems I dodged a bullet being unable to use HDR in Red Dead, but I'd like it for other games.
Then toggle it back on when you want to play a different game, then toggle it back off when you want to play RDR, then toggle it back on when you want to watch a movie, then toggle it back off.....
No thanks.
I knew something was up with it the moment I started playing. Way too washed out and dark of an image. Turning it off looks much better.
Yep,every game should have that really...thankfully Monster Hunter World for example has it right in the options but they dont have any other adjustment for HDR though lol...on my Sony 900E I can also turn it off in the action menu and you can also turn it off in the 1X,but its a toggle,like you mentionned.
You're legit saying the people who prefer it on are wrong for their preference? Why are y'all being so aggressive to that crowd? It's quite a sight... you can know what hdr looks like and still be ok with what you're seeing out of this title.