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Papertoonz

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things are going quite fast, hopefuly info comes some time soon to end all this debate
 

JoeInky

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What are the chances the online play is actually good? I didn't play the Wii U game, but Brawl was atrocious.

Wii U wasn't that much better, was still worse than playing it offline which is always a given but it never felt like there wasn't a noticeable input delay whenever I played online even with a good connection.
 

Metto

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I hope to god steve isn't in the game.

Getting a Microsoft character and having it be him instead of Banjo would be such a kick in the teeth.
I mean it'll be fine if it was them trying to get Microsoft's foot in the door and he was sort of agreed to be a neutral pick and Banjo could be DLC later.

If the Banner AT is Banjo and Steve is in then that would be the thing that would get me to say Fuck Sakurai. That would be insanely tone deaf and out of touch with what people wanted that I'm convinced that's not possible.
 

RailWays

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I'm thinking Mach Rider as an AT, and Banjo is not in.
Other missing character might be Elma.
 

9-Volt

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My guesses for third party ATs:

Indies: Runner, Steve, Isaac (not that Isaac, lol), digger from first Steamworld Dig

Big publishers: Bubble Bobble, dude from Solomon's Key, Mappy, Kunio-kun, Rabbid, Trigger Happy (Skylanders), Rabite
 

Phizax

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What are the chances the online play is actually good? I didn't play the Wii U game, but Brawl was atrocious.
If it's as good as Mario Tennis Aces it will be at least decent. Fighting game netcode is a bit harder to handle though. I would be cautiously optimistic, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nintendo messes it up again. They're just sort of notoriously bad at this kind of thing.
 
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There is nothing I'd like more than for the leak to be real, but yeah. I'm just not buying it. It just doesn't seem plausible, and I'm trusting the leakers that have more consistent credibility. More than happy to eat crow. If anything, hope I do.

Just going to say that everything Emily said was already said by Mystic a yesterday (2 characters not on the banner, an AT on the banner) and he went back and forth on his claims in multiple tweets and DM's.

My point is, I won't be entirely shocked if the leak is fake, but pro-fake people shouldn't be shocked if Insiders are wrong or just missing information. ESRB is proof that, especially when many Insiders said it was wrong because Mewtwo and Lucas weren't in the base roster, and we know how that turned out.

As a result, Incineroar and other "missing" character could easily be DLC and the AT could just have been mistaken as an AT (I've already heard theories of people confusing Excitebiker, who is possibly back, which Mach Rider, 2 completely different characters).
 

JoeInky

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Dana from SK as an AT wouldn't be hype, but it would be a pretty great deep cut, I legit love that game.

Honestly, an AT has never been hype, they're always a disappointment if they're a good character.
 

Tribal_Cult

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I cannot believe Sakurai would put ANY Microsoft character before Banjo-Kazooie. It would be like if he put another Sega character before Sonic in Brawl, or any other Capcom character before Mega Man in Smash 4.

Steve is likely someday, because Banjo is in. But Banjo is first, and I would even say at that point, Master Chief or another Rare character is next.
 

JayWood2010

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So has there been any more news on that leak? Im really hoping Banjo is in it.

Ive been debating on getting Soul Calibur VI but with Smash around the corner im so unsure about it. Im probably going to take Smash serious this time around since they toned down the dodging
 

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I get the hate for incineroar but mah boi Ken? GTFO and don't let the door hit you on the way out bro

That being said. Im ready for a good twist to be thrown in during the direct that no one saw coming
 

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Mach Rider was never mentioned by Mystic in any capacity so I doubt it's the AT.

It's either Chorus Kids, Geno, or Shadow.
 

Metto

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Honestly if that AT part was wide known by alot of insiders it could explain why so many insiders were confident the Grinch leak is fake because that is a weird thing to get wrong if this person had info or advertising material.

With that said if Jonneh maybe knew that there is hope for Issac fans because GameXplain did speculate about the Sprout being from Golden Sun so that could maybe point to Issac not being the AT.
 

Barrel Cannon

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What does DT stand for?

Why are there so many smash fans on Reset?

Are people still believing in that leak or are we believing the other one now?
 

Danzflor

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For those who inevitable will ask for a summary regarding what happened in the last 8 hours, here it is:

  • GamingINTEL, website with aproven track record of previous leaks, says that sources tell them there will be 2 Nintendo Directs this month, with the first happening as soon as this week. This has been backed up by various insiders.
  • Nintendo shared some info at they Q2 financial earnings report. In this regard they are in a little of trouble, just been selling 6 of the proyected 20 million by the end of fiscal year. They have 6 months left to sell 14 million Switches to meet expectations.
  • Adding to that Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa have said that the current focus of the company is growth, pushing on DLC and online content, as well as create a diverse portfolio to attract non-gamers.
  • Following with Furukawa, he told there are not any Esports plans yet, all holiday titles have been announced already, no Nintendo IP will appear at Dragalia Lost, more than 50% of Switch user have bought an anual online plan, and Fortnite is "doing well".
  • On the insiders stuff, MysticDimensions got in hot water after revealing too much info that was later disproven as false by his own sources and his livehood was in perill for this, you can read more about this in this thread.
  • The most recent new Theory doing the rounds is the Playlist Theory, brought up by steveng86, claiming that the spots left on the Music Playlist for Smash fits with the seven characters on the Grinch Leak, you can read more about it here.
  • Emily Rogers, known insider and ERA's own, talked again about the Grinch leak, saying that the leak "can't be met halfway", adding fuel to what has been said about one of the characters being an Assist Trophy.
 
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JoeInky

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Geno is the AT

Just shows up and does geno whirl and peaces out.


Hopefully there isn't another SE character playable if this is the case.
 

Bernkastel

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Isaac is in.
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Sacul64

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Metto

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Geno is the AT

Just shows up and does geno whirl and peaces out.


Hopefully there isn't another SE character playable if this is the case.
That's the only way Geno being an AT makes sense. They chose a different Square character and decided to give Geno fans a bone with the AT and the Mii costume.

Makes more sense then Issac who had more demand and is a Nintendo character
 

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For those who inevitable will ask for a summary regarding what happened in the last 8 hours, here it is:
  • Following with Furukawa, he told there are not any Esports plans yet, all holiday titles have announced already, no Nintendo IP will appear at Dragalia Lost, less tan 50% of Switch user have bought an anual online plan, and Fortnite is "doing well".

Isn't it over 50% of users?
 

Odeko

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God Tier—
Shadow is the AT
Incineroar is the AT

Mid Tier—
Ken is the AT
Isaac is the AT
Geno is the AT

Shit Tier—
Mach Rider is the AT
Chorus Kids are the AT

Nightmare Hellscape Tier—
Banjo is the AT because the Microsoft rep is Steve
 

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unless the AT is Geno or Banjo it personally makes no sense to me that they wouldn't have been revealed yet. Geno alongside Sora or Banjo alongside Master Chief reveals would be run, like when Bomberman was shown off with Snake and Alucard with Simon.
 

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Mystic said that he heard about Geno being in alongside Isaac and that there was something specific deconfirming the leak. It's likely that he meant the AT by that, and it's likely Mach Rider.
 

Metto

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Mystic said that he heard about Geno being in alongside Isaac and that there was something specific deconfirming the leak. It's likely that he meant the AT by that, and it's likely Mach Rider.
I'm not sure how much we can take from Mystic's comments at this point.
 

RochHoch

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Final Prediction:

Ken and Shadow are the last two echoes
Inceniroar is in (obviously)
Issac is in (since we've already seen his item)
Geno is in (since it's probable that Sakurai just renewed his deal with Square Enix instead of getting anything new)
If there's another missing character, Elma is in

Mach Rider and/or Chorus Kids are the AT
Banjo is out
 

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It also makes sense for Banjo to be the AT because GameXplain assumed he was the fake thing about the leak when it first popped up, and assuming PapaGeno's source isn't total shit Banjo may be involved in some capacity.
 
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