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Marossi

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Isaac won't be an assist trophy, you can @ me on this.





I accept any punishment if he is.
 

KtotheRoc

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hello, new thread. Hello, new thread title.

If a Direct is announced, this thread will be toast in record time. Smash fans are ravenous.
 

EatChildren

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just going to say that nobody knows if the leak banner is final. Nobody. It's a highly contested leak for a reason.

Literally "Insiders" can be right about Incineroar and the leak can be right. All you have to do is consider the fact that Incineroar could be incentivised DLC after the base roster. Mario Aces is doing exactly that with Paratroopa to get people to buy Switch online.

Incineroar is far more popular (just by being a pokemon) than any of the 7 leak characters, so him being withheld for this is not beneath Nintendo. They do it already.

Emily may well be wrong (we're all human), but if she's not it makes no sense that, in her words, the banner that thus far has focused on presenting every playable character in the roster (it's literally the entire shtick of the banner) would exclude multiple playable characters in addition to confusing an assist trophy for a playable character.

Sure, we can formulate theories on why a Nintendo designed, artistically coherent marketing piece would for some obtuse reason not include multiple playable characters and instead others. But if we apply Occam's Razor the most simple, logical reasoning here is that the Grinch leak is entirely fake. It's a clever, well presented fan made fake. Doesn't matter if some stuff aligns with reality, because the stuff most likely to was already hotly rumoured (eg: Ken). The more excuses we need to make for the art banner excluding characters yet including others, despite this being tonally and creatively inconsistent with every update leading up to this moment, the less believable it becomes. Because really, it only takes one thing. Just one; a person with technical and artistic skill (of which there exist many), and a penchant for jokes. That's it. One person out there willing to commit the time and energy to whip up this blurry fake and here we are. It's the simplest reasoning for why it exists, if we are to assume Emily's info is solid (as has been in regards to Directs and Smash in the past), instead of a thousand excuses we need to intertwine just to make both the Grinch leak and Emily equally coherent.

Reality is they're probably mutually exclusive. Grinch leak is fake. There's no Banjo, Isaac, Mach Rider, Chorus Kids, Geno, or Shadow. There might be Ken as that's an old rumour. And Incinerour is probably in too.
 

Łazy

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Nov 1, 2017
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The Ridley shadow was way earlier in the cycle and then the stage reveal was months after the game was out and he wasn't in.

I still don't think either of them are in but that's hardly comparable.
The character was wanted since a lot of time and one of te only potential highly requested new Metroid rep.

Geno only ever has been a Mii costume.
 

Weiss

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Oct 25, 2017
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From what I understand the third party ATs work as:

- One per series (Knuckles, Grey Fox, Alucard, The Ghosts, Zero, Rodin)
- One IP not represented (Bomberman, Rathalos)
 

alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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So it's either the Grinch leak is fake but insiders were given bogus info or

We have at least 3 characters plus some from the banner and one of these dudes are ATs. I can live with both of these possibilities they're both fine.
From the sounds of it, it seems like only 2 characters are different from what the insiders have heard.
 

Metto

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Oct 27, 2017
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So Assist Trophy considerations from Banner

Shadow
Mach Rider
Geno
Issac

Chorus Kids were considered for playable before so if anything they're more likely to come in based on this roster and Banjo like come on it's Banjo. Maybe they passed him over for Steve in base but he's not an Assist Trophy. I know people like to think Sakurai likes to troll or disrespect characters with Assist Trophies but outside of Waluigi, who is a special case and even then might actually be considered next time, they don't really choose Assist Trophies to spite characters and they won't add in highly demanded characters as ATs.
 

CD99

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Oct 27, 2017
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I'm surprised Street Fighter has no sort of assist trophy. You think they'll show one off if Ken gets revealed? I hope it's Chun-Li or Zangief.
 

Rotobit

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Oct 27, 2017
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this thread title will be pretty funny if there is a Direct this week

the thread about nothing ends up being the thread about everything
 

Hella

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Oct 27, 2017
23,405
So I've forgotten, is there a character that's playable and also an assist trophy? Or a boss and assist trophy, something like that? I wanna say it was in one of the Directs.

Hopefully I'm not conflating anything with speculation here.

Edit: Rathalos, right!
 

Weiss

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Oct 25, 2017
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Cos that's what they are in the copy of the game I've got.

Is Haruka Amami god tier or top tier?

Emily said that one of the banner characters is an Assist Trophy
Emily said one of them was.
Emily mentioned it'd be weird for a printing company to have put an AT in the banner.

Oh my.
 

Axass

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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Isaac can't possibly be an AT, would make no sense to remove him and then re-introduce him as AT, when he's one of the most requested by fans.
 

Metto

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
12,109
If nothing else after all this time Box Theory/Kencineroar isn't real and we'll get at least one other character and maybe some more from the banner. This is like a totally fine outcome even if all 7 would be more preferable but better than what we were talking before.

tenor.gif
 

MOTHGOD

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Dec 8, 2017
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Considering the special edition switch for Smash releases this week or so, are there any unboxing videos of it yet? I would like to see a good view of it out in the open before I buy.
 
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