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Chapter 2 of Yakuza 0 done.

This is taking over as my GOTY already. Stuff like the dancing, circuit racing, and karaoke mini-games had me smiling.
I usually ignore the mini-games in other games. Kiryu's expressions and comments in these though just make them so entertaining.

Ran out of money pretty fast to get parts for the circuit racing though so I guess I should be advancing the story more often.

SnowCrow said:

Chapter 2 of Yakuza 0 done.

This is taking over as my GOTY already. Stuff like the dancing, circuit racing, and karaoke mini-games had me smiling.
I usually ignore the mini-games in other games. Kiryu's expressions and comments in these though just make them so entertaining.

Ran out of money pretty fast to get parts for the circuit racing though so I guess I should be advancing the story more often.

Spoiler: Question about the Bakamitai song in karaoke

That picture is his orphanage right? I can read/understand Japanese a bit and I think the sign said himawari which is sunflower if I'm remembering correctly.

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Glad you're enjoying it! It's definitely my GOTY. As crazy as it sounds, it only gets better. Chapter 3 is something completely different and equally great. This game starts slow as it introduces characters and then shifts into high gear. There's also some other really fun (IMO) side activities that get unlocked later.

Just remember, you can continue to do side activities after you finish the main narrative in a new mode called Premium Adventure. So my advice is, have fun with that stuff, but don't forget about the story for too long or the narrative might not be as tense. You can always continue the other stuff afterwards.

Picked up Kiwami in the PSN sale. 0 is one of my biggest surprises this year so I'm looking forward to jumping in. Any tips or advice for someone that started out with 0?

RexNovis said:

Picked up Kiwami in the PSN sale. 0 is one of my biggest surprises this year so I'm looking forward to jumping in. Any tips or advice for someone that started out with 0?

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Go in knowing it's a lower budget affair compared to Yakuza 0. Be aware that it's still using the framework of a PS2 game that really hadn't figured out the Yakuza formula yet. It's also a bit harder than Yakuza 0, so keep that in mind.

It's still an awesome game and a great way to experience the origin of the Yakuza franchise with more playable combat and modern visuals.
Hope you have a blast with it!

RexNovis said:

Picked up Kiwami in the PSN sale. 0 is one of my biggest surprises this year so I'm looking forward to jumping in. Any tips or advice for someone that started out with 0?

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While 0 lets you do whatever the fuck you want, in Kiwami, as soon as the game opens up (Chapter 4.) you absolutely want to focus on a bunch of sidequests and Majima Everywhere first. Basically, grind your skill grid a bit, because unlike 0, your character is *really* useless and weak in the beginning.

Also, make sure you unlock the "Essence of Rush/Brawler/Beast" skills asap, or any boss will frustrate you.

And if you haven't finished all of Komaki's training lessons by the end of the game (Which requires some grinding in the arena.) you're gonna have a bad time.

Basically, unlike 0, Kiwami is a bit too grindy, probably to hide the short length of the story.

Son of Sparda said:

If you've played Zero then you should be fine. Just a couple of things:

1) Don't start on Hard difficulty! Unlike Zero, Kiwami is actually pretty difficult (and its not always in a fair way)

2) You can now save from pause menu!!!!

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CannonFodder52 said:

Go in knowing it's a lower budget affair compared to Yakuza 0. Be aware that it's still using the framework of a PS2 game that really hadn't figured out the Yakuza formula yet. It's also a bit harder than Yakuza 0, so keep that in mind.

It's still an awesome game and a great way to experience the origin of the Yakuza franchise with more playable combat and modern visuals.
Hope you have a blast with it!

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Thanks! Yea I7m really looking forward to jumping in as soon as I wrap up my playthrough of Valkyria Chronicles. Being able to save from the pause menu is a pleasant surprise. Always wondered about that constraint in 0. Figured it had something to do with the PS3 architecture since the save menu is a straight rip of the PS3 standard save menu style. Glad to hear that's changed in Kiwami. Also cheers for the tip on the higher difficulty level. Would it be wise to do a first run through on the easiest difficulty?

How do the side missions and sub plots compare to 0? Are the minigames mostly the same or are there different ones? What arcade games can you play in Kiwami?

Charlouie Jonesman said:

While 0 lets you do whatever the fuck you want, in Kiwami, as soon as the game opens up (Chapter 4.) you absolutely want to focus on a bunch of sidequests and Majima Everywhere first. Basically, grind your skill grid a bit, because unlike 0, your character is *really* useless and weak in the beginning.

Also, make sure you unlock the "Essence of Rush/Brawler/Beast" skills asap, or any boss will frustrate you.

And if you haven't finished all of Komaki's training lessons by the end of the game (Which requires some grinding in the arena.) you're gonna have a bad time.

Basically, unlike 0, Kiwami is a bit too grindy, probably to hide the short length of the story.

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Ah good to know. Thanks for the tip. I'll definitely keep that in mind when I start my playthrough.

RexNovis said:

How do the side missions and sub plots compare to 0? Are the minigames mostly the same or are there different ones? What arcade games can you play in Kiwami?

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The subquests are really basic. most of it is like "Here's some dude. He tries to scam Kiryu. Kiryu doesn't have it. Beats him. Quest over.". Barely any of the humor and elaborate wackiness of 0's substories.

There are a few bigger substories, that actually relate to the main story in some ways. They're fully voiced, with proper cutscenes and they're really good. But for the most part also pretty serious and downright sinister at times.

The minigames are just the series' mainstays, Karaoke, Batting Centre, Mahjongg ect. Only Pocket Car Racing returns.

The only arcade game is this one:



But all the bugs are replaced by the girls from 0's catfight minigame.

I don't want to poison your well, cause you may love the side stories. Personally I had a blast playing through all of them, but they aren't nearly as extravagant as Y0. They added some new ones that are a bit better, but the Yakuza series didn't really get the great side stories until Yakuza 3 and onwards.

Kiwami has a great, intimate main story. And it's actually heavily benefited by playing Yakuza 0 before hand. So you're set for a great experience.

Hey guys sorry if this is something that was asked to death, but can I play Yakuza Kiwami 1st and then Yakuza 0 after? Will doing so ruin 0 for me while have references and story bits in Kiwami fly over my head? Or are the two self-contained and enjoyable to full extent in any order?

eyeball_kid said:

Glad you're enjoying it! It's definitely my GOTY. As crazy as it sounds, it only gets better. Chapter 3 is something completely different and equally great. This game starts slow as it introduces characters and then shifts into high gear. There's also some other really fun (IMO) side activities that get unlocked later.

Just remember, you can continue to do side activities after you finish the main narrative in a new mode called Premium Adventure. So my advice is, have fun with that stuff, but don't forget about the story for too long or the narrative might not be as tense. You can always continue the other stuff afterwards.

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Oh that's good to know. I thought substories and such would go away if I progressed past certain points so I've been trying to do as many as I could find.

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Rocket launcher (Kiryu finally kills people)

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Looks like Kiryu had enough of all the bullshit!

WarpSpeedMolasses said:

Hey guys sorry if this is something that was asked to death, but can I play Yakuza Kiwami 1st and then Yakuza 0 after? Will doing so ruin 0 for me while have references and story bits in Kiwami fly over my head? Or are the two self-contained and enjoyable to full extent in any order?

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The series has continuity with the characters and locations but no overarching storyline, so if you absolutely must, you can play Kiwami first. Most references to 0 happen in sidequests and they're references to sidequests from 0 themselves. However, if it's your first time playing the series you should start with 0, because it gives a much better first Impression.

The one thing playing Kiwami first would spoil is which characters in 0 have plot armor.

I'll spoil it right now, Kiryu does NOT die in Y0 or Y1 or Y2 or Y3 or Y4 or Y5

Goddammit luce.

you know what, ONE STEP FURTHER.

MAJIMA GORO DOES NOT DIE IN YAKUZA 0 OR YAKUZA 1 OR YAKUZA 2 OR YAKUZA 3 OR YAKUZA 4

Charlouie Jonesman said:

The series has continuity with the characters and nocations but no overarching storyline, so if you absolutely must, you can play Kiwami first. Most references to 0 happen in sidequests and they're references to sidequests from 0 themselves. However, if it's your first time playing the series you should start with 0, because it gives a much better first Impression.

The one thing playing Kiwami first would spoil is which characters in 0 have plot armor.

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This. Plus the main baddie in Kiwami gets a ton of characterisation in 0 so for newbies to the series its better to do 0 then Kiwami rather than the other way round.

Son of Sparda said:

If you've played Zero then you should be fine. Just a couple of things:

1) Don't start on Hard difficulty! Unlike Zero, Kiwami is actually pretty difficult (and its not always in a fair way)

2) You can now save from pause menu!!!!

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Eh, I'd still say start on hard and knock the difficulty down. There were only two points in Kiwami where I felt the game was overly difficult and that was . The rest of it was pretty straight forward especially in the beginning. And when things got going later in the game you should really have counter attacks unlocked so things shouldn't be overwhelming you. Though maybe I speak from experience since I knew exactly what to unlock at which point to keep things from becoming frustrating on my end.

lucebuce said:

you know what, ONE STEP FURTHER.

MAJIMA GORO DOES NOT DIE IN YAKUZA 0 OR YAKUZA 1 OR YAKUZA 2 OR YAKUZA 3 OR YAKUZA 4

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Thanks guys.

Kiwami was on sale on BestBuy (while 0 is still full price wtf :/ ) so I grabbed Kiwami first. But, I guess I'll just have it sit all pretty on the shelf till I grab 0 then.

lucebuce said:

you know what, ONE STEP FURTHER.

MAJIMA GORO DOES NOT DIE IN YAKUZA 0 OR YAKUZA 1 OR YAKUZA 2 OR YAKUZA 3 OR YAKUZA 4

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You monster. Next thing you'll tell me Haruka doesn't die in any of these games either.

DAIGO DOESN'T DIE IN YAKUZA 2

lucebuce said:

DAIGO DOESN'T DIE IN YAKUZA 2

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Proof that God doesn't listen to my prayers.

Rymuth said:

Proof that God doesn't listen to my prayers.

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I contemplated .

Also, as entertaining as some of these jokes are, maybe they should be spoilered? As it kinda takes tension away from the series for newbies if they know who lives from game to game.

lucebuce said:

DAIGO DOESN'T DIE IN YAKUZA 2

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I'm sure he dies inside a little bit every time he fails at being a competent leader.

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Using a charged attack during a combo never crossed my mind. Charged □ x 3 looks like beast style in 0.

Ok, bought 0 during this PSN sale. You fuckers were the main reason why I wanted to play it and be a part of the community, so go ahead and congratulate yourselves. It'll be a little while before I get to it, but I'm pretty excited. It'll be my first game in the series.

I was actually looking forward to Kenzan back then, but then it never got localized and I guess I just got salty and never thought about the franchise again.

Son of Sparda said:

Finally got to Gbraga!

When you play and fall in love with the game, you gotta help me shill the game to more DMC fans. Dah, Sesha and GE need to play this game.

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How can anyone resist gifs like this? It's impossible not to buy this game.

Daigo kinda reminds me of Prez from The Wire.

Both are supposed to be pretty good at their job, but it's hard to remember that since if they get focus it's usually because they fucked up.

Son of Sparda said:

It's def not unplayable or anything but it can become frustrating especially when you are fighting big crowds. The hard difficulty becomes much more enjoyable when you've unlocked most of the moves from different styles tho.

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I feel you have enough moves at your disposal (bar when fighting the bosses I mentioned) that style switching effectively allows you to crowd control groups of enemies with no real issues. As long as you don't have 5+ enemies all attacking you with weapons at the same time you'll be fine. Beast + large weapon usually has them down before they even have a chance to become a threat!

gachapin said:

Charged attack combination


Using a charged attack during a combo never crossed my mind. Charged □ x 3 looks like beast style in 0.

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Looks awesome, I'd only played with the single charge moves, and not charge combos. That's something else to try.

This year, Gameblog will hold its 2017 Gameblog Awards ceremony at the Moulin Rouge (yes, that Moulin Rouge). Our readers get to vote for the Reader's Choice Award and Yakuza 0 is on the list. As I am part of the Gameblog staff, I can't vote. But if you guys want to support the game (or any other game on that list), you can do so here: http://www.gameblog.fr/news/71709-gameblog-awards-2017-votez-pour-votre-jeu-de-l-annee. The ceremony will be streamed online on December 19th.

I tried my best to get Yakuza 0 nominated in the Action-Adventure category but it faced some strong competition this year and Yakuza isn't very popular in France (because of the lack of French subtitles).

As of this day I've not managed to convince a single person to buy Yakuza 0. Unless you count an internet aquaintance on another board, who's very critical of "weird japanese" games, so him finally caving in and actually loving the game was a huge success. But just an internet buddy is still not enough!

Charlouie Jonesman said:

As of this day I've not managed to convince a single person to buy Yakuza 0. Unless you count an internet aquaintance on another board, who's very critical of "weird japanese" games, so him finally caving in and actually loving the game was a huge success. But just an internet buddy is still not enough!

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Forced my friend to play through it, ended up watching pretty much the whole thing including sub-stories and real-estate/cabaret.

Though, he doesn't have a PS4, so I didn't cause an extra sale of the game.

Charlouie Jonesman said:

As of this day I've not managed to convince a single person to buy Yakuza 0. Unless you count an internet aquaintance on another board, who's very critical of "weird japanese" games, so him finally caving in and actually loving the game was a huge success. But just an internet buddy is still not enough!

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funny, same thing happened to me when Kiwami went on sale for 15. i think i convinced 4 people to get it but then a whole bunch of negative comments that is a rehash of YO enviroments and that YO is better, killed it and they held off =/

davidwhangchoi said:

funny, same thing happened to me when Kiwami went on sale for 15. i think i convinced 4 people to get it but then a whole bunch of negative comments that is a rehash of YO enviroments and that YO is better, killed it and they held off =/

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So you're blaming ME!? >:-(

A work colleague of mine is going to buy a PS4 after his next paycheck (So basically in 1 or 2 days.) and he says he might get the game, so we'll see. (It helps that he actually understands english.)

done you all proud, got the fiance into Yakuza 0 and she loves it.

Started up Kiwami as my first entry in this series and am really liking it so far. Getting a Shenmue vibe, which I just love. Kind of wish I would have read the last few pages of this thread before choosing Kiwami over 0 but oh well, no going back now. I'll get to 0 next. Any tips on fighting styles? I pretty much follow this template so far (I'm not that far into the story):

Brawler - default, used most of the time.
Beast - for groups of enemies and when you really need to use weapons to clear them out.
Rush - ???. I pretty much only use it when there is a single enemy around and I want to get the CP for using Rush...
Dragon - I'm not getting Heat for using it so I don't see a reason to use it yet. I assume it will become the new default once I fight Majima enough to upgrade those skills.

I haven't played a game like this in a while where you have to strategically block and evade. Seems like I'm constantly getting combo'd and unable to block or evade once the combo starts, but I hope to get better at that. For now I just make sure to have plenty of toughness juice on me to recover HP mid-battle.

Beast is not really the overpowered boss killer that it was in 0. Here Rush is the best style for boss and Majima encounters. Just dodge around them to their back when they attack and punch them a whole lot. Almost always works.

Rush gets really (and i mean REALLY) good when you unlock more abilities.

You can pull of some crazy shit even against multiple enemies,and it's also super fun to use...i'm kinda sad that it's gone tbh.

CyrilFiggis said:

Started up Kiwami as my first entry in this series and am really liking it so far. Getting a Shenmue vibe, which I just love. Kind of wish I would have read the last few pages of this thread before choosing Kiwami over 0 but oh well, no going back now. I'll get to 0 next. Any tips on fighting styles? I pretty much follow this template so far (I'm not that far into the story):

Brawler - default, used most of the time.
Beast - for groups of enemies and when you really need to use weapons to clear them out.
Rush - ???. I pretty much only use it when there is a single enemy around and I want to get the CP for using Rush...
Dragon - I'm not getting Heat for using it so I don't see a reason to use it yet. I assume it will become the new default once I fight Majima enough to upgrade those skills.

I haven't played a game like this in a while where you have to strategically block and evade. Seems like I'm constantly getting combo'd and unable to block or evade once the combo starts, but I hope to get better at that. For now I just make sure to have plenty of toughness juice on me to recover HP mid-battle.

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Rush is really good for groups or single enemies or even bosses once its leveled up. Once you unlock the moves that give you heat off of successful dodges in the rush style you'll charge up your heat bar in no time. Rush also works great for groups as your super fast, so even if the enemy has a gun you can evade them easily and then take them out. And thanks to its excellent evasion you can easily dodge boss attacks and do nice damage to them (more so when you level up).

As for the dragon style. Its useless for the moment. You need to beat Majima a ton before its worth using, by the end of the game it should be fully leveled and hilariously over powered.

Wow, much love for Rush it seems. I'll have to work on getting better at it and unlock more of it's abilities. Thank you all for the tips.

Speaking of, it seems hard to use Heat Actions in Rush. As far as I can tell the only Heat Actions I can use in that style are when an enemy is on the ground (since you can't wield weapons or grapple, which are my main go-to's for Heat at the moment). I assume that will change as I unlock things, but if I'm missing something here regarding Heat in Rush let me know.

Glad the community convinced me to try this. Can't wait to dig into more of the series.

Rush heat moves take a while to unlock. Only unique one you have at the moment is the one where you press triangle (when in climax heat mode aka when you've filled the heat bar enough that the last bit of it is red, not blue) when an enemy is stunned. You can stun an enemy by hitting them a bunch of times in Rush mode, pick them up off the ground while in beast mode (you need to pick them up by the shoulders, not the legs) and later on you get another couple of ways to stun enemies. Bear in mind to get climax heat, or grabbing downed enemies in beast mode you firstly need to unlock said abilities.

Later Rush heat move unlocks are stuff like:
Brass Knuckles heat move (equip brass knuckles then press triangle)
Brass Knuckles heat sword counter (equip BK, then press triangle as an enemy attacks you with a sword)
Wall counter: Have your back to a wall, then press triangle when an enemy attacks you (love this one)
Knee counter: Press triangle when the enemy attacks (and your not by a wall) for a badass counter attack

etc. Tons of awesome moves to unlock. The counter moves especially are hilariously useful against pretty much every enemy once you unlock them.

Yakuza 3 just came in! Looking forward to hopping into it. Probably havent used my PS3 in like 2 years so hope it works smooth.

Charlouie Jonesman said:

So you're blaming ME!? >:-(

A work colleague of mine is going to buy a PS4 after his next paycheck (So basically in 1 or 2 days.) and he says he might get the game, so we'll see. (It helps that he actually understands english.)

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no LOL, this was on amiibo discord =)

a trophy list for Kiwami 2 is not yet available?

The feeling of fresh Yakuza shilling is goooood.

Menitta said:

The feeling of fresh Yakuza shilling is goooood.

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Squirrel of Dōjima said:

a trophy list for Kiwami 2 is not yet available?

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Nothing has popped up on my radar yet. Then again Yakuza trophy lists are almost all the same anyway. So chapter completion trophies, different trophies based around playing mini games, one for Amon, one for Climax missions if they are back. One/two for the completion list etc.

What I'm interested is if it'll be harder to plat than 6, which was really easy to do.

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Nothing has popped up on my radar yet. Then again Yakuza trophy lists are almost all the same anyway. So chapter completion trophies, different trophies based around playing mini games, one for Amon, one for Climax missions if they are back. One/two for the completion list etc.

What I'm interested is if it'll be harder to plat than 6, which was really easy to do.

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What I was mostly interested in was the Climax Mission one to check if they are back ^^

I agree on Y6, I took the platinum in just 3 days :S