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US PoliERA 2018 |OT11| The Hunt for Blue November
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He's a coastal elite from CA lol. But damn props to him for canvassing.
I agree that polls are going to be off, don't know that we get the senate but it's not impossible.
Looking at past results. It's amazing Gary "What Is Aleppo?" Johnson did as well as he did in 2016. Anyone know any Johnson supporters and what their take on 2018 is?
Gary Johnson's total was more than the difference between Clinton and Trump in these states
Clinton won
Colorado
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Mexico
Maine (as a whole)
Minnesota
Trump Won
Arizona
Florida
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
It's amazing how Nader is piled on but this guy gets a pass. I bet most of you already forgot about him.
McMuffin had a big enough differential in Utah where Trump only got 45.1%.
Gary Johnson's total was more than the difference between Clinton and Trump in these states
Clinton won
Colorado
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Mexico
Maine (as a whole)
Minnesota
Trump Won
Arizona
Florida
Michigan
Pennsylvania
Wisconsin
It's amazing how Nader is piled on but this guy gets a pass. I bet most of you already forgot about him.
McMuffin had a big enough differential in Utah where Trump only got 45.1%.
this is sickening to think about, ugh
really is a reminder no one ~thing~ is why trump won, it was a crazy variety of factors all stacked against Hillary's favor.
Didn't Hillary take a break post convention for a fundraising tour?
It's even crazier when you look at 3rd parties in Senate races.
Republican Senators currently in office without 50% of the vote.
Dan Sullivan - Alaska
Lisa Murkowski - Alaska
Jeff Flake - Arizona
Corey Gardner - Colorado
Roy Blunt - Missouri
Dean Heller - Nevada
Thom Tillis- North Carolina (With an assist from a pizza delivery driver? Think about that in all the close votes he has partaken in).
Pat Toomey - Pennsylvania
Democratic Senators currently in office without 50% of the vote.
Doug Jones - Alabama
Michael Bennett - Colorado (Almost had 50% per NYT(which was probably never updated so maybe he did)) with 49.9707----%
Joe Donnelly - Indiana
Maggie Hassan - New Hampshire
Jon Tester - Montana (both times he's been elected)
Catherine Cortez Masto - Nevada
Mark Warner - Virginia
Currently 15% of the US Senators weren't even wanted by a majority in their state to represent them.
What? This is PoliEra, you think we're going to forget any candidate who helped Trump win? But isn't it far better to look Jill Stein's Green Party voters, who are (in theory) ideologically much closer to the Democracts that the Libertarians are, to see how third parties failed America?
Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes. Jill Stein won 51,463 votes.
Trump won Pennsylvania by 44,292 votes. Jill Stein won 49,941 votes.
Trump won Wisconsin by 22,748 votes. Jill Stein won 31,072 votes.
Flip those three states, and Hillary wins the Electoral College.
It's difficult to get people to the polls in the first place. But all of those Green Party voters took the time to go out and vote. But instead of using that vote to help prevent a man who referred to global warming as "a hoax invented by the Chinese" from getting into the White House, they decided to do the exact opposite and protest vote.
But, again, this is PoliEra, we remember. Nader justly gets remembered for 2000. So too do Johnson and Stein, and all their supporters. I'm sure we all clearly remember this:
Definitely, especially in 2008. Biden has the same problem.
I wonder what Sarandon et al will do in 2020. If they fall in behind the D nominee, cable news loses interest in them as potential guests. So do they give up their platform or find an excuse to be contrarian?
This is disconcerting, to say the least:
@ASlavitt
This is a photograph from the central square in Nuremberg I took in broad daylight this summer.
Racial extremists in Germany who can't legally display a swastika use an American symbol instead.
7:10 AM - Oct 28, 2018
This is a photograph from the central square in Nuremberg I took in broad daylight this summer.
Racial extremists in Germany who can't legally display a swastika use an American symbol instead.
7:10 AM - Oct 28, 2018
Hillary took like sixty breaks. She took most of, like, August, off, she took a break before and after every debate, she took a break like the week before election day. In her defense, she had 90 surrogates, including the president, on the trail at all times and Trump had...Eric Trump. But yeah she didn't like campaigning and it was obvious.
Like do you really need four days to prepare for a debate against Trump?
First, you're wrong in assuming that those Jill Stein voters would have voted for Hillary. They most likely wouldn't unless Hilary gave them a reason to vote for her. She obviously didn't.What? This is PoliEra, you think we're going to forget any candidate who helped Trump win? But isn't it far better to look Jill Stein's Green Party voters, who are (in theory) ideologically much closer to the Democracts that the Libertarians are, to see how third parties failed America?
Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes. Jill Stein won 51,463 votes.
Trump won Pennsylvania by 44,292 votes. Jill Stein won 49,941 votes.
Trump won Wisconsin by 22,748 votes. Jill Stein won 31,072 votes.
Flip those three states, and Hillary wins the Electoral College.
It's difficult to get people to the polls in the first place. But all of those Green Party voters took the time to go out and vote. But instead of using that vote to help prevent a man who referred to global warming as "a hoax invented by the Chinese" from getting into the White House, they decided to do the exact opposite and protest vote.
But, again, this is PoliEra, we remember. Nader justly gets remembered for 2000. So too do Johnson and Stein, and all their supporters. I'm sure we all clearly remember this:
Second, Susan Sarandon gets a lot of flack from the #resistance crowd despite her not having nowhere near the pull of Beyoncé or any of the other more famous actors and musicians that came out for Hillary. Even being just slightly annoyed with her endorsing Jill Stein over Hillary is silly.
It's painful to remember that. She was endlessly raising cash instead of holding a rally in the midwest or Florida. Money she blew on attack ads instead of promoting her agenda. Have the surrogates attend the fundraisers instead. Every day when I saw the schedules of Hillary vs. Trump I just wanted to rip my hair out.
Stein is a Russian shill, she is no better than Trump. Susan Sarandon deserved every bit of the scorn she got for endorsing a Russian patsy.
That wasn't even in the cards back then and Susan Sarandon doesn't deserve any of the scorn at all. Jill Stein wasn't seen as a Russian shill in 2016. People are still hounding Sarandon over it and it's stupid. Viggo Mortenson endorsed Jill Stein, but he doesn't get anywhere near the scorn.
C'mon guys. 2016 relitigation, just 8 days before the 2018 midterms? We can do better than this
Fuck these Nazis. Folks from Central America probably have more frequent innoculations from contact with the UN health agencies, than many of the kids in Trump's Appalachia.
Lady Liberty weeps
Clearly these diseases are extremely dangerous, if a group of thousands of people in marginal health can walk for weeks or months with apparent invisible impacts.
The post convention break was a really bad idea, instead of sealing the race coming off the convention they led Trump set everything.
Anyway, Florida Dems had a good good good weekend
By comparison GOP has like 10% advantage in 2014. Still long way to go for Dems.
I don't know Viggo. I didn't know he acted. Does he act? I thought he rapped.
Sarandon gets flack because she was excessively loud and stupid. That combo is pretty lethal. Defend her however you like. I'm glad she's politically active and cares deeply about America. She's also a moron.
Edit: not because we disagree but because her arguments were fundamentally silly and hysterical.
(Removed because who cares about 2016 anymore)
I'm sitting here holding out hope Donnelly can pull out the win. I'm not expecting much because, as far as I know, Braun hasn't had a Mourdock moment, but Donnelly does have that incumbent advantage and, as much as he may be a "DINO", he's about as good of a Democrat as you could expect from my state in a statewide race.
I'm sitting here holding out hope Donnelly can pull out the win. I'm not expecting much because, as far as I know, Braun hasn't had a Mourdock moment, but Donnelly does have that incumbent advantage and, as much as he may be a "DINO", he's about as good of a Democrat as you could expect from my state in a statewide race.
*ahem*
I'd agree that hounding Sarandon is stupid, but only because it's a waste of time when there's more important things to do. The above, though, shows why she deserves/deserved scorn.
Edit: And I'm not being dragged into "how Hillary lost 2016", I just feel that we shouldn't minimise a famous actress going on TV in other countries to say "This is bigger than who wins this election", when it really wasn't.
I have been!!!! Come on spanberger!!! More professional cia candidates to make the leftists mad!!!
Jk I just really like her ownage if Dave brat.
Well she did have pneumonia. She prob got it at all those Martha's Vineyard orgies.
I don't really consider what she said to be stupid or loud. You guys are ascribing a lot of influence to Sarandon when she's a drop in the bucket compared to celebrities who endorsed Clinton.
I don't see the problem with what she said. Like I said above, Sarandon doesn't have no where near the influence as you guys think. Sarandon is not swaying any votes and it's still folly to think that those Jill Stein votes would have been Hillary votes. And I'm not going into why Hillary lost, it's just that this focus on Sarandon from #resistance folks is weird, counterproductive, and stupid. She's a lightning rod for those types, I guess.
Not really lol but I was behind Hillary 100% but what a frustrating month that was
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Obama about to burst into all of his supporters houses who didn't vote in 2016 and yell at then.
It was very telling during the vigil last night. Democrat dignitaries received applause, and Republican ones nothing but silence.
That latest Trump tweet... If he wasn't inciting violence against the media before, he is certainly doing it now.
Seems legit.
Seems legit.
National, would have little interest posting a California GCB
And while I agree it's not going to be +17, it was +13 in their poll last week so hopefully it translates into a bigger margin
Just in case anyone thought it might be quiet after the midterms:
The article (which I think includes Haley in the six possible cabinet members) speculates that those likeliest to leave/get fired are:
POLITICOVerified account @politico
Trump could see up to six Cabinet officials depart in the weeks after next month's midterm elections. Because he's already shuffled eight, that size of an exodus would give him for the highest turnover rate in recent history.
The article (which I think includes Haley in the six possible cabinet members) speculates that those likeliest to leave/get fired are:
- Jeff Sessions
- Jim Mathis
- Ryan Zinke (either move departments or leave entirely)
- Wilbur Ross
- Kirstjen Nielsen
That was the poll in 2016 that predicted Trump to win, so it's possible they're picking up something that the other polls are missing.
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