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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DT10 | News, Site Updates, and Speculation | A Change Of The Heart

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Weary Bones

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Not swapped. Both shown at the same Direct.
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oh oh got it got it

So my theory wouldn't help at all with this other theory because Isabelle was always planned.

I guess the only thing i have to say about that is that explains why there would be 5 whopping newcomer reveals left

If this whole thing is true i wonder if they're just going to have an information blow out
 
BassForever

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It was probably easy enough to switch numbers, or maybe isabelle was gonna start the direct and isaac would end it. The final "please sit till the end" felt awkward, probably wouldn't have been an issue if it lead the direct.
 
Neiteio

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As an Earth elemental, Isaac has a lot of earthquake attacks that might've been inappropriate in the September direct due to a certain natural disaster at the time.
 

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Lunar15

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Y'all, it was weird and gross to connect the earthquake in japan to an already disproven Isaac reveal several months ago, it's still gross now.
 
Wonderrade

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Isaac and his crew are climate change deniers, making his politics uncomfortable in a nintendo direct
 

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Lunar15 said:
Y'all, it was weird and gross to connect the earthquake in japan to an already disproven Isaac reveal several months ago, it's still gross now.
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Nobody is saying they delayed the Direct due to Isaac, that was obviously out of respect. If they also delayed something else after it would also be out of respect. I don't see what's gross.

Edit: willing to drop the topic tho, of all Isaac proof I rate this the lowest.
 

ItsKipz

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Lunar15 said:
Y'all, it was weird and gross to connect the earthquake in japan to an already disproven Isaac reveal several months ago, it's still gross now.
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How is speculation about anything gross? Sakurai himself has said the earthquake threw off some of his plans (either for the direct or a column in famitsu, we're not sure)
 
Phendrift

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Lunar15 said:
Y'all, it was weird and gross to connect the earthquake in japan to an already disproven Isaac reveal several months ago, it's still gross now.
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It's absolutely not. We had insiders say a big reason the Direct was delayed besides out of respect was because of an earthquake related reveal, it is not out of line to speculate an earthquake related character was being revealed for Nintendo's hottest holiday game.
 
LemonLime

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Why does Mewtwo have a beak?
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Shadow Mewtwo from Pokken Tournament, also developed by Bandai Namco. Not a beak, lol
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ze_

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I don't see why it's gross. It looks like that actually is the reason they delayed it.
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Not really. NinEverything's translation is contradicted by Sourcegaming (and also the most sensible reading of a delayed column's intro). The banner edit alone isn't proof. The blog's schedule suggests they only had one fighter planned.
 
falcondoc

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Hailinel

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ItsKipz said:
How is speculation about anything gross? Sakurai himself has said the earthquake threw off some of his plans (either for the direct or a column in famitsu, we're not sure)
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Phendrift said:
It's absolutely not. We had insiders say a big reason the Direct was delayed besides out of respect was because of an earthquake related reveal, it is not out of line to speculate an earthquake related character was being revealed for Nintendo's hottest holiday game.
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Moderators are stepping in to say it's gross and to stop, so please, just stop.

I don't care if you believe in the Earthquake Theory (which is a gross goddamn thing and I can't believe I felt inclined to type that), but we shouldn't be speculating about it like this here.
 

Dark Cloud

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ze_ said:
Not really. NinEverything's translation is contradicted by Sourcegaming (and also the most sensible reading of a delayed column's intro). The banner edit alone isn't proof. The blog's schedule suggests they only had one fighter planned.
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Isabelle only makes sense in conjunction with the Animal Crossing Switch reveal
 
jorgeobamajr

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Reposting (& rewording) this since I think some people missed it:

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The big wide banner on the Smash site is split among multiple images, sliding repeatedly across like an image galery. I found the individual images, and images 02 and 03 do 'split' in-between Olimar & Little Mac. However, by searching for the images in the wayback machine, I just get a singular significant change corresponding to Sep. 13th, that is, the Isabelle reveal. If someone wants to further explore Wayback Machine, be my guest.

From what I can gather, the person in that leak loaded the site in a manner that the old image for Banner02 was loaded, and the newest image at the time for Banner03 was loaded, leading to the weird crop. The differences in the seam line up with the 4chan post when you connect those two images.

The 'old' images are there since like, September 10th as well, at least according to wayback, so it wasn't an immediate or reactive change.

Sep 13 - 21:09: https://web.archive.org/web/20180913210950/https://www.smashbros.com/assets_v2/img/top/hero02_en.jpg
Sep 14 - 00:38: https://web.archive.org/web/20180914003829/https://www.smashbros.com/assets_v2/img/top/hero02_en.jpg

Sep 13 - 21:09: https://web.archive.org/web/20180913210951/https://www.smashbros.com/assets_v2/img/top/hero03_en.jpg
Sep 14 - 00:38: https://web.archive.org/web/20180914003829/https://www.smashbros.com/assets_v2/img/top/hero03_en.jpg

This is what you get when you match up the first image for banner 02 with the second image for banner 03
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Which seems to line up pretty well with the 4chan post.

It's a *massive* coincidence (and not in the sense that it 'proves' anything), particularly since I don't know how you could be extremely unlucky to load one old image and then one new one and then have it line up one month later with the Isaac thing that was apparently speculated (still ??? at that) to be in the same direct, but it's looking like nothing more than a coincidence.
 
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Lintend said:
So someone on 4chabn just posted this...

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i know people have already pointed out that its fake

but i want to also point out that when you change colors, shouldn't there be a brief flash each time? i swear someone did exactly this mistake with the metal sonic alt color "leak" for sonic in smash bros 4 lol

also some of the colors looks... off, is it me?
 
BGBW

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Jesus this community is heading down the toilet fast.

FACT: The seam isn't there because a character was removed, it simply how the website works. The banner is split into sections and that's where two sections meet. It was either a case of one section not being uploaded correctly with the rest or someone's cache causing the site to not load properly.

FACT: The direct wasn't delayed because of Isaac. It was tasteless to suggest that back then and it's tasteless to suggest that now.

FACT: Two leaf sprouts are common as muck in games (now if it was three leafed I'd be impressed). Heck there's already another item using the two leaf sprout imagery, that's how common it is. Nothing suggests it's to do with Golden Sun. It could be related to a magnitude of properties.

FACT: Loads of Nintendo properties had their trademarks renewed this year. Where's the support for Ashley from Another Code huh? That was one of the other games renewed.
 
Metto

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NotLiquid said:
Ridley was the first character demo'd on the Treehouse. K. Rool got a game play video (and wasn't going to be anywhere near another Smash-specific Direct). Isabelle got neither.

Not that I expect it, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a quick recap.
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If they seriously explain semi clone Isabelle 2 months after her reveal it would be the biggest failure of marketing that they've done. They might as well have put up a video of her fighting
 
Neiteio

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To clarify, I'm saying maybe there was content featuring earthquakes that was removed. The delay itself was obviously out of respect for a national tragedy. But does that preclude altering content to be tasteful? I also thought there were insiders that made similar suggestions at the time (not Isaac in particular, but general content concerns), but I may be mistaken.
 
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