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Apple announces iPad Pro and Mac event for October 30th
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I'm so psyched for the iPad Pro. I've been wanting to grab a new iPad for a while now, so, assuming most of these rumors are true, it's definitely happening.
USB-C at the very least. I just hope they don't do some weird proprietary thing with it for the video out and stuff.
USB-C at the very least. I just hope they don't do some weird proprietary thing with it for the video out and stuff.
I really wish they would make the power and volume buttons flush. It looks weird to me and makes it have "a corner" if that makes any sense. Hopefully it's just for clarity on the icon and they don't actually stick out that much on the real thing.
I mean - assuming they put eg a simple 8th gen i5 in there, or the guts of the base MBP/iMac, you'd think they'd be able to manage costs well. But of course they'll find some way to overprice it to a ridiculous extent.
God, this would be so amazing. I'm so bummed it won't happen any time soon.
i hope these things are already at apple stores and i can pick it up Tuesday
Very likely not. Best case scenario is order Tuesday, shipping a week later
Imagine being able to use your MacBook HDMI dongle on your iPad too
It makes almost too much sense
That's what I'm worried about lol. They could do something decent for $600, but I'm afraid they'll go higher out of fear of taking sales away from the iMac.
Really hope they don't gut the Mac Mini of its ports for the sake of thinness. If they come out on stage and show me a Mac Mini that looks like a drinks coaster, I'll be disappointed. The current models is small enough and this computer needs to be the utilitarian/professional product.
Yeah, this is also a concern. We don't need an ultra thin mini. They can keep the current design.
I really do hope they use USB-C. It won't be a deal-breaker for me, due to how I intend to use it, but I really don't want to be buying devices that use anything else now.
I suddenly need a new pair of headphones, and while I'll wait for this event to see if they release AirPods with active noise cancelling, I'll probably be buying Sony instead of Bose specifically because they updated them to use USB-C rather than Micro USB.
Though I doubt it would affect Apple too much either way, companies that are slow to adopt USB-C are missing out. It's why I'm not upgrading my Kindle, and Apple continuing to use Lightning is one of the reasons that I didn't upgrade to an XS Max.
The iPhone X avoided this by changing the aspect ratio from 16:9 to 19.5:9 rather than make the device smaller.
Hopefully that's just because it's an icon, and Apple will have increased the aspect ratio slightly to account for it.
Since the iMacs can fit 3.5" drives, you can get 14 TB HDDs for half of what Apple charges for 1TB of flash.
A single local HDD is still faster than a NAS via gigabit Ethernet (which I'd still expect on the non-Pro machines) for large file transfers, and WiFi is even slower than that.
I suddenly need a new pair of headphones, and while I'll wait for this event to see if they release AirPods with active noise cancelling, I'll probably be buying Sony instead of Bose specifically because they updated them to use USB-C rather than Micro USB.
Though I doubt it would affect Apple too much either way, companies that are slow to adopt USB-C are missing out. It's why I'm not upgrading my Kindle, and Apple continuing to use Lightning is one of the reasons that I didn't upgrade to an XS Max.
It wouldn't be the worst thing ever since it's a relatively large display, but I am a little concerned that it appears to show a 4:3 display rather than something taller, since that would mean the corners are now cut off.
The iPhone X avoided this by changing the aspect ratio from 16:9 to 19.5:9 rather than make the device smaller.
Hopefully that's just because it's an icon, and Apple will have increased the aspect ratio slightly to account for it.
Apple's implementation of that concept may be bad, but it doesn't mean that HDDs should disappear.
Since the iMacs can fit 3.5" drives, you can get 14 TB HDDs for half of what Apple charges for 1TB of flash.
A single local HDD is still faster than a NAS via gigabit Ethernet (which I'd still expect on the non-Pro machines) for large file transfers, and WiFi is even slower than that.
Yeah, this is definitely looking like something I'm going to buy. My iPad Mini 2 is going to be 5 years old next month. As much as I love the thing, it's become rather slow and unresponsive which was obviously going to happen. I think depending on your use case a 4-5 year upgrade cycle for tablets seems fine. At least in my case it was.
A7 —> A12X
1GB —> 4GB?
60hz —> 120hz
32gb —> 256gb
FaceID from nothing
P3 Display
Pencil support
Better accessories
USB-C
Quad speakers
Also, what are the chances this machine is more powerful than my base Summer 2012 Macbook Air I use to edit photos? I'm guessing yes and it'll hold me through till the next significant design change to the Macbook Pro.
Anyway, also really interested in the Mac Mini. Might even sell my NUC based on what's shown.
The problem is software. Unless you pay Adobe $10/month for Lightroom, I haven't really found a good photo editor on iOS.
The free version of Lightroom is great, but only works with JPEG files. It can't even import RAW+JPEG files and only work on the JPEG.
Few editors seem to work with RAW photos, and those that do seem very limited. Everyone recommends Darkroom but I can't even find an option to display a histogram while editing in it - which seems especially important on a device where the screen brightness is adaptive.
Perhaps Affinity Photo is the answer to that, but it's only available for iPads, and when I recently tried it out on my desktop PC it did not seem like a viable alternative to my old copy of Photoshop CS5.
It was very slow in comparison (on a Ryzen 1700X with 32GB of RAM and a GTX 1070) and quite limited in a number of ways. Those issues may not be present with an iOS/Mac optimized version though.
I'm looking forward to seeing what Affinity Designer (vector graphics) is like on the iPad. I've only heard good things about it, especially if you use the pencil.
Yeah I don't like those buttons sticking out
On the new Apple Watch it's so much nicer having the power button complete flush.
So how hard will it be to order one of these as soon as they're available? Is the site usually overwhelmed? Am I gonna need to be refreshing 2-3 separate devices to snag a launch shipment iPad Pro?
So with USB-C, they can go back to having proper video out? That's something they they kinda fucked up when they switched to the lightning connector.
What I want to see from the reportedly cheaper macbook that'll be revealed
I5 8th gen 8gb ram 256gb ssd within 1200 usd
1 usb a, 2 usb c(1 for power, 1 thunderbolt), headphone jack.
Intel's new low power display tech that increases battery life by a good margin
Not the mbp keyboard.
Great display.
Bring it on Apple.
I5 8th gen 8gb ram 256gb ssd within 1200 usd
1 usb a, 2 usb c(1 for power, 1 thunderbolt), headphone jack.
Intel's new low power display tech that increases battery life by a good margin
Not the mbp keyboard.
Great display.
Bring it on Apple.
Unlikely that Apple will put two USB-C ports on a computer with different capabilities. That's just asking for consumer confusion, for a spec that's already crazy confusing
No one looking at a Mac mini is considering an iMac and I'm pretty sure Apple knows it.
I imagine we'll see things like the removal of the SD card slot so they have more room to tighten things up. But you'll have to accept that the industrial design of the Mac mini will change. It's been the same design for 8 years now. And it's highly unlikely that they'll make it BIGGER.
Mini is just meant to be a cheap way to get into OS X.
They have totally ignored it for years now though.
I doubt it will happen, but I'd really like to see Apple transition away from using 16:10 displays in their notebooks to something taller.
Microsoft are using 3:2 displays in their Surface devices, which is a nice improvement, but I really miss 4:3 displays.
That aspect ratio works great on the iPad, and would work very well with a notebook too.
In theory they should have no issues outputting an uncompressed 4K video signal over USB-C rather than a compressed video stream from the device via Lightning, but the device itself has an uncommon output resolution and will likely be scaled to 4K/1080p rather than output natively. I expect it will be capped to 60Hz rather than 120Hz too.
Microsoft are using 3:2 displays in their Surface devices, which is a nice improvement, but I really miss 4:3 displays.
That aspect ratio works great on the iPad, and would work very well with a notebook too.
Well that really depends on how it's wired up, and what you consider "proper video out".
In theory they should have no issues outputting an uncompressed 4K video signal over USB-C rather than a compressed video stream from the device via Lightning, but the device itself has an uncommon output resolution and will likely be scaled to 4K/1080p rather than output natively. I expect it will be capped to 60Hz rather than 120Hz too.
I'm really hoping the iPad Pro 12.9" isn't crazy expensive... the cheapest of their current lineup is 800 right? I'd be happy if it was around the same price point. Any rumours about prices out there? I'll be watching the event live on Tuesday, I'm glad it's earlier than some of their other events have been.
That market doesn't really exist anymore. The people who would previously buy a mini just to slot into the spot where their PC tower was now just buy tablets and laptops.
yep. the "consumer desktop PC" market is dead save for gaming PCs, which apple has never shown interest in. apple needs to refocus their entire desktop line on the high end for it to have any reason to exist, including the mac mini (which, imo, should get retooled into a more affordable standalone alternative to a mac pro).
Of course, but for me it's not about that. I don't want their shitty keyboards or mice or speakers. The screen is nice, admittedly, but the rest I don't care for. I could still buy an iMac and replace the rest, which is what I will do if a new one doesn't show up at this show, but I don't want to pay for that stuff I don't want.
Interesting. That could be a big deal in Procreate since changing brush size is a little annoying.
I think it still exists, it's just a lot smaller than it used to be.
But Apple has unlimited money. They can afford niche products.
the market for routers and dedicated MP3 players and printers and rack-mounted servers and small phones all exist, just smaller than they used to be, but apple doesn't make any of them anymore. once the niche gets small enough they either retool a product or kill it.
If this is true then I'm all in with a new Apple Pencil. I'll happily ditch my original. I sketch game ideas, small doodles and such in ProCreate quite often.
Yep, was going to reply with the same thing. If Apple cared about niche products, the iphone se would still be around. Also they would put actual effort into the ipod.
I've got a couple silly questions, I want to pick up an iPad Pro this time around, not familiar with what it's like getting these at launch.
- how long after announcement do these typically release?
- how hard is it to preorder one, can you preorder?
- are you charged in full immediately or closer to release?
- how long after announcement do these typically release?
- how hard is it to preorder one, can you preorder?
- are you charged in full immediately or closer to release?
Usually up for order same day, shipping after a week or two
It will probably be hard to preorder an iPad Pro since the demand will be so high, but it's all done from Apple's website
You are charged when it ships, but the site may put through an authorization charge just to make sure it's legit
That's true but they should do it that way.
Before this boom they were a bit player and those fans helped them get where they are today.
That's the exact reason I got an iMac in 2014. Because the mini had just been updated and it was a shitty update so I went for a refurbished iMac just so I could also get a display with it.
Now I want something to plug into my 50" UHD TV that can perform the same duties. I want to go back to the mini. Apple just needs to give it to me.
Just please don't remove all the ports. Leave us with 4 normal USB, 2 USB-C and HDMI at the very least. Even if the SD card disappears leave us with some old style USB ports like you do with the iMac.
It hasn't been "meant" to be a switch Mac for years at this point. That entire avenue seems irrelevant at this point, especially as the PC market contracts.
Yeah, but they still didn't produce niche products even when they were (and still are) a niche PC maker.
They did in the past.
If Apple thought something could be improved or they didn't like the current options they would often make their own.
Examples? The classic four-quadrant matrix left plenty of people out. They dumped most of their peripherals. The vocal minority has wanted the xMac for decades at this point. The closest they've ever really come to targeting a specific segment is the eMac, but even that was mostly just because they couldn't make cheap flat-panel iMacs, and while they could make their products more appealing to that segment to some degree, it's also frankly a lost cause (doesn't matter if they made an amazing durable iPad at $200 or an iMac at $800, Chromebooks are dirt cheap and disposable and Google will happily give you tons of free cloud storage so it can scan your emails and hold your documents hostage.)
I mean back in the day they made their own monitor, their own router, their own NAS (they might still make that) and they still make their own keyboard, mouse (which sucks) and touchpad.
There were always compatible monitors and there were always quality routers but Apple felt a need to make something they felt fit with Macs better or was a better option to the rest of the market.
Its easy for me to play pretend CEO on a message board but I think they could do with a little bit more of that in their DNA again.
I think my counterargument is that for a lot of those products, they don't need to make something. When Apple made Airport, routers sucked. I remember my high school and college days dealing with POS Linksys and garbage networking headaches and constant power-cycling. These days, I can't remember the last time I had to restart the cheap router my cable provider gave me. It makes sense to drop it.
Seems like they expected they could do the same with displays, it just turns out that's not the case (to wit: all the issues with waking from sleep on the Dells and the various hardware issues with the LG they touted as the companion.) Ergo, they're going to re-enter that segment in some way.
If anything, I think Tim Cook's Apple could do with being more ruthless and cutting products instead of leaving zombies around just to hit a price point. You're better off selling more expensive products that are worth the money than selling cheaper ones that really aren't and getting customers buying those and having subpar experiences.
when apple started the airport line consumer routers practically didn't exist. airport and the ibook were pretty much the first consumer wifi devices
Are there rumors of an Airport successor? Last I heard they were abandoning that product line, which came as a shock.
Aren't you leasing that router from your ISP?