https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-research-prototyping-xbox-controllers-phones-and-tablets
Source: Windows Central
Seems they are getting ready for Project xCloud.
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WindowsCentral - Microsoft Research has prototyped Xbox controllers for phones and tablets
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https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft-research-prototyping-xbox-controllers-phones-and-tablets
Source: Windows Central
Seems they are getting ready for Project xCloud.
I've been waiting for something like this. Even though the controllers for smartphones and tablets never convinced me that they were of console controller quality.
Hell, I'd love these just to play on my main Xbox on the big screen. A joycon in each hand, arms flubbed at my sides is peak comfort.
Not sold on making it super modular. I worry the ergonomics get might lost in the fray there.
Not sold on making it super modular. I worry the ergonomics get might lost in the fray there.
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Untill Sony, Valve, Microsoft and Google go all in on streaming, that is. Then you'll see 3 - 4 type of controllers become mainstream. Add these add-on controllers to the streaming box you sell, bundle them with games, etc.
What's that then and how could MS use it with their streaming service?
It looks good, but couldn't they just release a blue-tooth enabled Xbox One controller that could connect to your phone/tablet?
They already have. I think these ideas are more about providing different options.
Good point, but look at Jez response:
And Razer and Ms are in bed regarding accessories it seems.
Apart from the ergonomics, that setup just does not look it will hold a phone / tablet securely.
The Switch has physical rails to connect the controllers to that bear the weight.
Third party similar solutions either dock the device inside them
or have some kind of support structure to hold the device in place
The Switch has physical rails to connect the controllers to that bear the weight.
Third party similar solutions either dock the device inside them
or have some kind of support structure to hold the device in place
That great for the tiny niche of razor phone users. Useless for the rest.
they're banned so they're not going to respond to your questions anytime soon guys.
I assume they're talking about this kind of thing
which is just a plastic bracket that can connect your phone and a dualshock, but thats not "a sony solution" and doesnt work well with tablets
I assume they're talking about this kind of thing
which is just a plastic bracket that can connect your phone and a dualshock, but thats not "a sony solution" and doesnt work well with tablets
We already have Bluetooth enabled XB1 controllers which people use on their phones.
But carrying around a controller with you might be more work than most are willing to do, these things look alot smaller than a full controller so people maybe be more comfortable to carry them around.
they're banned so they're not going to respond to your questions anytime soon guys.
I assume they're talking about this kind of thing
which is just a plastic bracket that can connect your phone and a dualshock, but thats not "a sony solution" and doesnt work well with tablets
I assumed they'd go for a padded clamp solution. They work on all sizes, are secure, and don't require a bezel.
Till an official app is released OneCast better than most stream to phone/ipad solutions ive seen.
Putting your clamp directly at the point where a user is exerting pressure just seems a terrible solution to me
Oh... I had no idea they had did that already.
How have I not heard of this before? Pretty lag free?Till an official app is released OneCast better than most stream to phone/ipad solutions ive seen.
Huh? Clamp solutions provide a firm mount for the phone but the phone itself bears none of the load.
Apple and google need to be able to make big money off of this before they will put in the effort, i.e. design hardware to stream controller required games from anywhere (cloud/pc/console). Maybe Google's project stream will offer this money and we'll get pixel gaming phines?
They will need Apple to allow the app. They don't need Google though it would make things easier.
The point of failure is directly at the point where a user is jiggling around and mashing. Natural hand movements are going to be pushing the device 'away' from where its clamped, and the point of contact doesn't look large enough to spread that distribution of force around (unlike the third party gamepad where you 'dock' the device inside the controller, but only works with specific sized phones)
99% of mobile is apple and google. So how do you get them to make phones/tablets work with your gaming hardware?
Its the other way round, the controller needs to work with existing phones / tablets. Right now the bluetooth edition X1 controllers can pair to an android device easily as its a standard bluetooth HID.
You need integration at the hardware level to make it work properly and frustration free. That is my understanding anyway based on nvidia shield and wiiu gamepad.
I don't understand your question? How does hardware makers today get windows to work with their hardware? Very easily.
I think you're thinking of something different to me. As I said before, clamping devices don't let the phone take any load, they just hold them in place. The controller would still be a rigid thing (although probably moveable by width) without the phone in.
I'm talking about the use case presented in Fig 7 of OP.
If you put some bulldog clips on a book, hold the book by the clips and do make believe button mashy hadoken type movements with your hands, you'll see how you are exerting pressure on the point of failure.
When I talk about a clamping solution I'm talking about the more conventional use of the mechanism - like you see on phone and tablet mounts. My Parrot Sky Controller uses one, for example.
So why no xbox1, ps4, Nvidia gamestream, or psnow to iPhone already?
In which case I agree - I'm saying the way they're presenting the controller in the OP looks like a bad solution that will not securely hold a tablet during gameplay, as it looks like they took the idea of the switch joycons but don't have the engineering support of embedded hooks on the tablet part itself that the joycons use, and are just putting clamps on the controller parts like bulldog clips