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Heckler456

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Oct 25, 2017
5,256
Belgium
Anyone else confused on some of the characters? They throw so many of you at once I can't keep track of who is who haha.

Any suggestions on how to make the aiming less awful?
You can turn on subtitle character names if you haven't yet. Might help a little when it comes to getting to know the characters.

As for aiming, dead zone to 0, acceleration to max, and auto aim to narrow, I think it was. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

Deleted member 862

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
8,646
Got told to leave the town by the sheriff for disturbing the peace because I was walkng around antagonising everyone then telling them to chill at the last moment. Someone ran and told on me lol
 

EJS

The Fallen - Self Requested Ban
Banned
Oct 31, 2017
9,176
Finished the first chapter. I don't know. I don't find it boring at all. I feel like the game doesn't try and be super realistic either. The controls require some tweaking, I admit.
 

vestan

#REFANTAZIO SWEEP
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Dec 28, 2017
24,611
The last few missions of Chapter IV and the beginning of V have utterly blown my mind. No idea how the heck this game keeps getting better but it somehow does. I'm sort of doubting the game can keep this up but if it somehow does then it will definitely be my game of the generation.
Yeah it's nuts. On chapter 6 myself and sheesh.
 

Heckler456

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,256
Belgium
I'll tell ya what though. I was playing AC Origins before this game released, and I was thinking of picking up Odyssey, but I genuinely don't feel like going back to what is essentially crossing off a checklist after playing this game.
 

Heckler456

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,256
Belgium
Look on your map and see if you can find a trapper icon. It's like a bear trap iirc. Sell him the pelt, and then you can go to the crafting options to turn it into something new. I was confused too.
Where do you find the trapper? Pearson told me where he was at some point, a while back, but now I don't see his icon on the world map anymore.
 

jett

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,653
It's completely ridiculous to act like we've seen anything else like this in gaming before.

I have. It was called Red Dead Redemption, came out eight years ago, maybe you've heard of it?

Mission design is identical. Go from point A to point B while listening to incessant chatter from NPCs, then at point B you do an insanely linear chore/mission where Rockstar guides you by the hand at all times, literally telling you exactly what you have to do every step of the way with nonstop pop-in messages.

Game/world structure is about the same. You have story missions, stranger missions, and random encounters. And that's about it.

Combat encounters are still designed around having auto lock-on activated and are extremely poorly balanced otherwise.

In its defense, controls are actually different. Probably even worse than before.

I see people saying this game is ahead of its time, or it's this massive leap for mankind gaming. And I'm personally like WHAT. Some people are really just letting themselves get carried away by the insane production values. So far RDR2 is more or less an expanded/improved version of RDR1 for me.
 

Megasoum

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,563
I believe you can use Horse reviver on it, should be cheap and you can carry 3 on you.

You can buy a revival tonic that'll bring them back. I haven't had to use it yet so I'm not exactly sure how it works.

Right... So I died right after my horse and when I respawned he wasn't there anymore but my saddle was... So I guess I gotta buy another one... Really sucks to have to rebuild your bond from scratch everytime?
 

Shan

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Oct 27, 2017
7,954
Right... So I died right after my horse and when I respawned he wasn't there anymore but my saddle was... So I guess I gotta buy another one... Really sucks to have to rebuild your bond from scratch everytime?
I'd assume so, best bet would be to find a wild horse and try to tame it, perhaps you'll score big on a horse that can have a LOT of stats. (:
 

chandoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
20,071
Where the hell is this "Trapper" I keep reading about ? There is absolutely no indication in my map or the map index.
 

Spinluck

▲ Legend ▲
Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
28,429
Chicago
You said "Learning bad controls do not make bad controls any better". That, to me, doesn't scream you actually meaning "Learning controls that, to me, are bad, does not make controls that are, to me, bad, any better." To me, that reads as you just saying the controls are objectively bad.

As for the second paragraph, I'm not arguing that you can't find the controls unenjoyable. I'm saying that it's silly to say "this could easily have been done much better!" based on no expertise or authority whatsoever. It's far more logical to assume that this is literally the best possible control scheme given all variables that have presented themselves over the course of development.

The game deliberately made many compromises to fit this realistic sim feel they wanted to go for. It works in some places, and it doesn't work in others. The problem to me is there isn't a clear line drawn on enjoyment or functionality along with realism and detail. And that leaves the game feeling chorey or needlessly convoluted, and kind of cumbersome at times.

Are you seriously saying I need to be an expert game designer to see that? I have to be a pro in their field to say that I believe they could have made slight compromises to make the gameplay just a little better? What kind nonsense is that and are you gonna provide me with the evidence that says they could not have made this game any better? I have played many open world games, and while this may be one of the best... it does not do EVERY single thing better than those games. I might as well tell anyone who hates The Last Jedi that they aren't a hollywood director so fuck off lol.

You can discredit just about any criticism in the way you just did. Think about what you are doing and saying here. People have played these games for years and it's always the same complaints. This is not new territory for Rockstar's games and even the people who enjoy them have said this. And my evidence that they can make solid, fluid and responsive 3rd person action games with a reliable cover system is Max Payne 3 which they made lol.

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They can easily do the above and slow it down for this game while keeping the controls responsive and concise to input.

This defense you have posted above is some new level of hand waving any opinion brought forth about the game's design choices or flaws that would be treated as flaws in any other game that was not has high profile.

I can literally defend Superman 64 by saying people tested it, that they intended for the controls to work the way they did, and that it could not have easily been better because you aren't an expert that knows any better... Along with the variables and yadda yadda yadda. Give me a break. There are things in this game that are actually quite counterintuitive and not good, believe it or not.
 

ze_

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Oct 28, 2017
5,933
Where do you find the trapper? Pearson told me where he was at some point, a while back, but now I don't see his icon on the world map anymore.
Found a map here. It's that tiny black icon with a dotted white ring inside. The one I went to was south of where the main story hunting mission with Hosea ends, by "Three Sisters." Look above the V and E in the text New Hanover.
 

chandoog

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Oct 27, 2017
20,071
After you do your first legendary hunt with old man, hell appear. He's on the far right side of the map.

Is that the one with the legendary Bear ?

I already did that, every time I go back to the camp to donate something, the game prompt about the Trapper. Can you please tell me where in the map I should expect, a nearby landmark or town to it ?
 

SolidChamp

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Oct 27, 2017
4,867
Is there a list of places where we can retrieve all of the bonuses from the Ultimate Edition, such as the cash infusion and War Horse?
 

Dphex

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Oct 27, 2017
12,811
Cologne, Germany
Look on your map and see if you can find a trapper icon. It's like a bear trap iirc. Sell him the pelt, and then you can go to the crafting options to turn it into something new. I was confused too.

i gave him the legendary coyote and fox hide, the tooltip also said that i can now craft new clothes, i´ve gone through all the options available but i don´t see anything to craft ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Where the hell is this "Trapper" I keep reading about ? There is absolutely no indication in my map or the map index.

St. Denis, he is sometimes in the wild but has a permanent location in St. Denis. the icon is a paw, i think it shows up when you skin an legendary animal for the first time
 

Deleted member 28131

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Oct 31, 2017
552
Besides gym and sleeping breaks I've been playing non stop since Friday morning.

This is the GOAT open world game. Only complaint is the wanted system which seems bugged sometimes.
 
Oct 26, 2017
879
What is the highest buy in for poker and is it random? I just played Holed Em for about an hour and had a blast running the entire table dry, but my winnings were less than spectacular considering it was only a $2.50 buy in
 

AegonSnake

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,566
I have. It was called Red Dead Redemption, came out eight years ago, maybe you've heard of it?

Mission design is identical. Go from point A to point B while listening to incessant chatter from NPCs, then at point B you do an insanely linear chore/mission where Rockstar guides you by the hand at all times, literally telling you exactly what you have to do every step of the way with nonstop pop-in messages.

Game/world structure is about the same. You have story missions, stranger missions, and random encounters. And that's about it.

Combat encounters are still designed around having auto lock-on activated and are extremely poorly balanced otherwise.

In its defense, controls are actually different. Probably even worse than before.

I see people saying this game is ahead of its time, or it's this massive leap for mankind gaming. And I'm personally like WHAT. Some people are really just letting themselves get carried away by the insane production values. So far RDR2 is more or less an expanded/improved version of RDR1 for me.
This.
 

Jhn

Member
Oct 28, 2017
423
The wierd vignette thing you get at night is super annoying.
Make the nights actually dark instead of artificially making me claustrophobic.
 

joe_zazen

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,490
I have. It was called Red Dead Redemption, came out eight years ago, maybe you've heard of it?

Mission design is identical. Go from point A to point B while listening to incessant chatter from NPCs, then at point B you do an insanely linear chore/mission where Rockstar guides you by the hand at all times, literally telling you exactly what you have to do every step of the way with nonstop pop-in messages.

Game/world structure is about the same. You have story missions, stranger missions, and random encounters. And that's about it.

Combat encounters are still designed around having auto lock-on activated and are extremely poorly balanced otherwise.

In its defense, controls are actually different. Probably even worse than before.

I see people saying this game is ahead of its time, or it's this massive leap for mankind gaming. And I'm personally like WHAT. Some people are really just letting themselves get carried away by the insane production values. So far RDR2 is more or less an expanded/improved version of RDR1 for me.

Hype distortion.

RDR1 had the best ending to game ever—if you can pretend the post credit garbage didnt exist. And that redeemed that game for me. I'm really hoping rdr2 can have the same impact, otherwise...
 

Toni

Banned
Nov 13, 2017
1,983
Orlando, Florida
Ok so...I'm only about 7 hours into the game (due to a heavy work schedule) and I as I was playing I suddenly just decided to willingly shoot a deer as I was curious about how it all would be due to the new systemic animal behavior in place created from Rockstar...but yeah, no.

Like, hey, I know this is just a game for entertainment purposes but I can not bring myself to kill a deer in this game after this. It tored me up doing this, man.

Kudos to Rockstar though for bring it to the next level with this (as expected from them) but...wow.

https://youtu.be/hy-AvReTPHQ
 

Mary Celeste

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,172
very early on I found a town that seemed abandoned and I could enter a prison, which had two corpses. I couldn't find anything else to do in this area though. Is it related to something later on or did I miss something?
 

SOLDIER

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
11,339
Does the tapping button assist in the options do anything for having to tap to spring (both on foot and on horseback)?

I really wish I didn't have to keep holding down a button or tapping it while doing the long horseback rides.
 

Deleted member 11069

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Oct 27, 2017
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Twice now I have had large pelts just disappear into the ether. This time i ran into my horse, and the pelt just poofed out of existence.
Yeah, I was full of pelts when a random encounter started.
After the encounter, no more pelts.
It's hilarious when they fly off when you hit a tree, but randomly disappearing is a bit lame.
 

Grisby

Member
Oct 29, 2017
2,531
Finish my first bounty and have a good haul with some rabbit's on this dudes horse.

Turn him in. Feeling pretty good about the game.

Somehow bump (????) into the lawman and he says he's gonna shoot me. I move to the door and he does. Like, what. What was the crime, lol.

Oh and when I respawn I lose 5 bucks and my rabbits are gone.
 

tulpa

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
3,878
Played a few hours and just about to go back for more.

Interesting. Hasn't really opened up yet.
 

Fanuilos

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
4,128
Ok so...I'm only about 7 hours into the game (due to a heavy work schedule) and I suddenly just decided to willingly shot a deer as I was curious how it would be due to the new systemic animal behavior in place created from Rockstar...but yeah, no.

Like, hey, I know this is just a game for entertainment purposes but I can not bring myself to kill a deer in this game after this. It tored me up doing this, man.

Kudos to Rockstar though for bring it to the next level with this (as expected from them) but...wow.

https://youtu.be/hy-AvReTPHQ
Oh damn, that's brutal. Interesting that it seemed to subtract from your honor.
 

PancakeFlip

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,918
I've found the key to this game is creating manual saves so you can roll back when something stupid happens.

Yeah there was a situation where I stopped a robbery and an almost endless chain of winesses spawned on the path so I couldn't hide people by the time they passed by. Kiled the first one who went vigalante on me, then another guy then another guy was coming and I just reset the game.
 

BossAttack

Member
Oct 27, 2017
42,949
I have. It was called Red Dead Redemption, came out eight years ago, maybe you've heard of it?

Mission design is identical. Go from point A to point B while listening to incessant chatter from NPCs, then at point B you do an insanely linear chore/mission where Rockstar guides you by the hand at all times, literally telling you exactly what you have to do every step of the way with nonstop pop-in messages.

Game/world structure is about the same. You have story missions, stranger missions, and random encounters. And that's about it.

Combat encounters are still designed around having auto lock-on activated and are extremely poorly balanced otherwise.

In its defense, controls are actually different. Probably even worse than before.

I see people saying this game is ahead of its time, or it's this massive leap for mankind gaming. And I'm personally like WHAT. Some people are really just letting themselves get carried away by the insane production values. So far RDR2 is more or less an expanded/improved version of RDR1 for me.

100% agree.

TW3 remains the GOTG. Rockstar, despite designing open worlds for over a decade, still don't understand how to make them great. They've simply been copying their same formula year after year with little refinement. Pretty much every open-world RPG has left them in the dust long ago. Here's a simple thing, why can't we talk to our crew at camp? Why is it simply just repetitive greetings? Instead, the only time we get to actually converse with them is through a mission where we're riding from Point An to Point B thus making you paranoid that you don't arrive at the location too fast and cut off the conversation. Mass Effect and Dragon Age from the start of last gen let you speak with every one of your crew members/squad mates at your home base, allowing you to learn their backstories and have deep meaningful conversations with them. But, here's RDR2 over a decade later and it thinks simply saying, "Hi," to your crew at your home base is revolutionary.
 

BigWeather

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Nov 4, 2017
1,426
very early on I found a town that seemed abandoned and I could enter a prison, which had two corpses. I couldn't find anything else to do in this area though. Is it related to something later on or did I miss something?
Mild items spoiler:
There is a lock box in the Sheriff's office with a gold bar worth $500 in it, and a premium cigarette pack with card on a window sill on the second floor of the Saloon.
 
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