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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate DT10 | News, Site Updates, and Speculation | A Change Of The Heart
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To be fair looking at the potential context why it's blurry gives it a decent out.
The question if it's fake is did they really try to stage a situation to give it an out for being blurry?
Oh shit. Is that from Dark Dawn?Has this been posted about the new item?
Smash
Golden Sun
Nice find. Looks exactly just like it.Has this been posted about the new item?
Smash
Golden Sun
HmmmmmmmmmHas this been posted about the new item?
Smash
Golden Sun
Well, every fake leak does the blurry thing to try for credibility.
So we're just saying not to take anything he says as truth at all?
Like, I get the man would want to surprise us since he seems to find the whole reveal cycle fun and engaging, but going from "don't expect much" to "he's just lying I'm sure there's a ton" is warped logic.
Where is that Golden Sun image from? I don't remember there being a bubble.Has this been posted about the new item?
Smash
Golden Sun
Nice receiptsHas this been posted about the new item?
Smash
Golden Sun
I'm beginning to believe the grinch again
You know I was joking, right? You seem weirdly invested in being as aggressive about this leak as possible.
I got it from Reddit, I never played the games so I don't know which one is from. The poster don't exactly detail it aswell.
Damn, you caught my trick question. I was suspicious since you smelled like beef and cheese, but I shouldn't have lost faith.
Has this been posted about the new item?
Smash
Golden Sun
EDIT: Original Post from Reddit
This is almost identical.
Which Golden Sun game is that from?
So I want to do something different. Let's start by saying I'm completely #teamreal, so I already believe this leak is legit.
I want to "prove" it not on a technical level, nor on a logical level, but I want to give my own personal impressions on why do I believe this is real on an artistic and thematic level. I'ms starting off by saying that I'm goint to give for granted, just for fun, that this is real and try to understand why the final banner is done like it is, trying to enter Sakurai's own mind. Yeah, whooooo. This is all entirely subjective and there is absolutely not a single fact behind it, it's driven by heart.
Here are the reasons why I think this is legit:
1) The picture is voluntarily extremely crowded, they want to pass the feel of a roster which is overwhelming and big. The first thing I'm noticing is that there is very little blank space between all the characters. As of right now, the banner shows some weird blank spaces in certain areas. The one I noticed the most is the area around Dark Samus. Look for example how many characters are around Bowser: I count nine characters that touch him, completely engulfing him. Dark Samus? Two: Sjulk and Pac-Man. Since its reveal it seemed odd that in the banner we would be able to see only the face of Bowser basically, but the entire render of Dark Samus was perfectly visible. In the leaked banner, everything is moved up to fill that space: Ness is closer, Jigglypuff is removed from the Pokémon Trainer (why is she there in the first place?), and of course there is Geno.
The same can obviously be said from the area under Mewtwo: now it's officially inhabited by only the Mii Gunner, which is weirdly enough dislocated from its two partners, but in the banner leak the king Banjo takes its place, moving the Gunner along with the rest. That Mii Gunner position screams placeholder.
2) Chorus Kids are paired with Pokémon Trainer, and not only. Let's not even consider the fact that the artwork implies the leaker actually knows about the franchise because of the tie thing, the real interesting fact is the inclusion of the director alongside the trio of the kids (generally depicted by themselves by other "leakers"). The fact that it's so close to Pokémon Trainer makes me think the Director is going to act similar: as a background character giving... directions to the kids which are going to be the actual playable characters. Their position is very interesting because it poses both the Trainer and the Director side by side, like they're going to simultaneously unleash their own army against someone (Wario). It's a very Sakurai and Nintendo thing to do.
3) Isaac's grass move. Again, a very specific reference that only someone with a general knowledge of Golden Sun would use (not me, for example), and also, thematically interesting in the banner. Who are two of the closest characters to Isaac? Snake and Olimar, both characters thematically tied to grass, seen often lurking inside it. Weak I know, but might as well.
4) You can see Falco and Luigi have been moved close together, and they both strike a similar pose like they are launching themselves in the air (they're over Bowser's head in the leak). Instantly reminded me of this:
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Before, I never made the connection, but now the reference seems pretty clear.
5) Mach Rider on his bike. I 100% guarantee you a simple leaker would've depicted him holding a gun or something. The fact he's actually riding his bike in this banner makes me run wild with my imagination, and makes me think his moveset will actually be about him riding his bike the whole time. We are still missing a true WTF / joke character, and Mach Rider fits the bill. Something about him/her being so cool, yet so ridiculous, is Sakurai 101.
These are just a few thoughts, and nice touches that makes me believe this is true, and that a more generic leaker wouldn't have come up with. Or maybe I'm just too bored.
It's not the fact that it's blurry that's the out. It's why the video is blurry why people are willing to overlook it.
If this dude was using a phone to Snapchat which will also lower the quality of the video on it's own and the video never had that big of a focus on the banner itself it makes sense why it is blurry beyond hiding the proper details of the artwork.
The guy had TWO LinkedIn profiles. Both with the same information, but two different companies. The older profile listed the company that made that statement. The newer profile has a different company that says he's worked there for a year and 8 months, which lines up with when the first company said he last worked for them, so what the company from that older profile says is pretty much irrelevant. What matters is what the company in the more current profile says.
Isaac was my ballot vote, I loved Golden Sun and I'm sure he would make for a very fun fighter with Psynergy, Djinns, Summons and the like.
I was very disappointed that he didn't even make it as AT for Smash 4 and If the "leak" is fake I will be a bit sad, not too much though since K.Rool and Simon/Richter are in which are other awesome newcomers.
Incineroar would be nice being my favourite Alola Starter and loving his design and inspiration, watching lots of Tiger Mask during my childhood probably helped cementing my judgment.
With the whole "heel" wrestler thing going on for him I'm sure he would make for a very nice fighter with interesting and fun moves.
Other fighters I wanted to see in were Bomberman ( which is now an AT) and something new for Zelda.
I may be a boring person wishing for Classic Pig Ganon but I also think that Skull Kid and Impa (Sheik Echo) could be great picks aswell.
I was very disappointed that he didn't even make it as AT for Smash 4 and If the "leak" is fake I will be a bit sad, not too much though since K.Rool and Simon/Richter are in which are other awesome newcomers.
Incineroar would be nice being my favourite Alola Starter and loving his design and inspiration, watching lots of Tiger Mask during my childhood probably helped cementing my judgment.
With the whole "heel" wrestler thing going on for him I'm sure he would make for a very nice fighter with interesting and fun moves.
Other fighters I wanted to see in were Bomberman ( which is now an AT) and something new for Zelda.
I may be a boring person wishing for Classic Pig Ganon but I also think that Skull Kid and Impa (Sheik Echo) could be great picks aswell.
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I believe the bubble was photoshopped, otherwise it does not make sense for it to be cut like that.
This almost makes me want to help you lift something. But I still won't.
So I want to do something different. Let's start by saying I'm completely #teamreal, so I already believe this leak is legit.
I want to "prove" it not on a technical level, nor on a logical level, but I want to give my own personal impressions on why do I believe this is real on an artistic and thematic level. I'ms starting off by saying that I'm goint to give for granted, just for fun, that this is real and try to understand why the final banner is done like it is, trying to enter Sakurai's own mind. Yeah, whooooo. This is all entirely subjective and there is absolutely not a single fact behind it, it's driven by heart.
Here are the reasons why I think this is legit:
1) The picture is voluntarily extremely crowded, they want to pass the feel of a roster which is overwhelming and big. The first thing I'm noticing is that there is very little blank space between all the characters. As of right now, the banner shows some weird blank spaces in certain areas. The one I noticed the most is the area around Dark Samus. Look for example how many characters are around Bowser: I count nine characters that touch him, completely engulfing him. Dark Samus? Two: Sjulk and Pac-Man. Since its reveal it seemed odd that in the banner we would be able to see only the face of Bowser basically, but the entire render of Dark Samus was perfectly visible. In the leaked banner, everything is moved up to fill that space: Ness is closer, Jigglypuff is removed from the Pokémon Trainer (why is she there in the first place?), and of course there is Geno.
The same can obviously be said from the area under Mewtwo: now it's officially inhabited by only the Mii Gunner, which is weirdly enough dislocated from its two partners, but in the banner leak the king Banjo takes its place, moving the Gunner along with the rest. That Mii Gunner position screams placeholder.
2) Chorus Kids are paired with Pokémon Trainer, and not only. Let's not even consider the fact that the artwork implies the leaker actually knows about the franchise because of the tie thing, the real interesting fact is the inclusion of the director alongside the trio of the kids (generally depicted by themselves by other "leakers"). The fact that it's so close to Pokémon Trainer makes me think the Director is going to act similar: as a background character giving... directions to the kids which are going to be the actual playable characters. Their position is very interesting because it poses both the Trainer and the Director side by side, like they're going to simultaneously unleash their own army against someone (Wario). It's a very Sakurai and Nintendo thing to do.
3) Isaac's grass move. Again, a very specific reference that only someone with a general knowledge of Golden Sun would use (not me, for example), and also, thematically interesting in the banner. Who are two of the closest characters to Isaac? Snake and Olimar, both characters thematically tied to grass, seen often lurking inside it. Weak I know, but might as well.
4) You can see Falco and Luigi have been moved close together, and they both strike a similar pose like they are launching themselves in the air (they're over Bowser's head in the leak). Instantly reminded me of this:
Before, I never made the connection, but now the reference seems pretty clear.
5) Mach Rider on his bike. I 100% guarantee you a simple leaker would've depicted him holding a gun or something. The fact he's actually riding his bike in this banner makes me run wild with my imagination, and makes me think his moveset will actually be about him riding his bike the whole time. We are still missing a true WTF / joke character, and Mach Rider fits the bill. Something about him/her being so cool, yet so ridiculous, is Sakurai 101.
These are just a few thoughts, and nice touches that makes me believe this is true, and that a more generic leaker wouldn't have come up with. Or maybe I'm just too bored.
NOW I'M HYPED AGAIN
fu.ck
To give credit to Serebii, Pokemon is a close second behind Smash in producing an absolute flood of fake leaks before every new game. He has to parse all the bullshit from the real news all the time so I can't blame him for being skeptical.
Of course, him being skeptical is not at all proof of anything being fake, people should just be aware of what his job is when they criticize him for being reticent to getting on board with any rumors.
Nah im talking post E3 as in its a different build.
Apparently it wasnt anyway but eh.
Ganondorf and Incineroar seem like a good couple, they're both redheads and they're both heels, but together they find the little bit of compassion missing in their lives
I'm on fake's side but there's one thing that pulls me other side: Chorus kids. Chorus Kids have their conductor! There was rumors about them being in Smash 4 but all mockups and fanarts excluded the conductor. Just all three boys. Not only the conductor is there, it has his red tie, which was not completely visible in Rhythm Heaven games. This thing might be fake but the creator is definitely someone who never misses details.
I've seen people suggest it could grow into a Mario vine.
I'm leaning towards it being from Golden Sun though.
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