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Big One

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's probably for the best we not go down this road again. All the insiders here have decided not to divulge information, and it's up to us to decide whether to believe them or not.
I'm not demanding them to say anything, I'm just asking for evidence that these "insiders" are in mass rejecting this leak.

There's Liam, Spawnwave, and that one dude that backed out cause he was getting harassed by some users on ERA.

That's it.
 

Weiss

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I'm not demanding them to say anything, I'm just asking for evidence that these "insiders" are in mass rejecting this leak.

There's Liam, Spawnwave, and that one dude that backed out cause he was getting harassed by some users on ERA.

That's it.

Haven't Serebii and all of GameXplain come out against the leak?
 

Wonderrade

The Wise Ones
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Oct 25, 2017
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Hey supposed "Insiders", my name is RandomSamshFan1242. You have alot of nerve pretending you have some kind of "special info". You think you can just go on the internet and say things about the potential smash roster? Well guess what, you better tell me all your secrets otherwise I'm gonna make a stink on the internet. Thats right, I'm gonna say you're dumb in a public place. AND. If you aren't careful I might say you are wrong or even worse, you have bad info. How bout them apples?

Now, of course, regardless of the outcome of this leak I'll be buying smash. And at worse, I'll have to deal with not knowing whether or not this leak is fake for like 4 weeks. BUT HEAR ME, you "insiders" and your "privilege". I will dedicate myself to tearing you down.

/s

Let's be nice :)
 

louisacommie

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Oct 25, 2017
17,564
New Jersey
listen nerds i dont read your dorky geno fanwank thread regularly so if im gonna dig up old debates you're damn right i'm gonna do it hard'

But yeah. I'm saying that if most previous leakers/grapevine/sources/whatever are saying that this leak doesn't match up with their info, surely that puts it under noteworthy scrutiny? Not confirmation either way, but when we have some people decently consistent with hints and leaks, even if they're not overly comprehensive and significant, who are contesting this leak as inaccurate and/or unreliable that to me warrants scrutiny.

I guess I just fall into the camp of high quality leak =/= real leak. There's been some fucking incredible leaks in this medium where people pour insane time and talent into convincing people of bullshit. If this is fake it's definitely one of them, cleverly constructed and orchestrated. But attention to detail isn't enough for me. Especially in the Smash circus where, let's be real, if this degree of commitment to a fake is going to happen it's going to be for this fucking game.
I hate geno

What's your opinion on Zelda getting a 4th unique character

And is first since 2001
 

Jermare

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Dec 21, 2017
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After seeing this Facebook post... HOW IS THIS EVEN BEING STILL DISCUSSED? There's this leak's smoking gun, people! Marina PLV has confirmed that they are not currently working on anything for Bandai Namco, nor are they doing anything for Smash Ultimate. The leak is dead.
How far behind are you?
 

KtotheRoc

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
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Berordn

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Oct 26, 2017
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Did anybody guess what that new item in the trailer was? Someone said it looks like a growth psynergy item from Golden Sun.
It does have more than a passing resemblance to the growth psynergy symbol, but it also looks like it could be related to the healing aura item.

Smash has made up weird items before, so jury's out.
 
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With Rare you'd have:
Goldeneye (if Nintendo gets the license)
Diddy Kong Racing (many characters still belong to Rare)
Jet Force Gemini
Killer Instinct Gold
Banjo Kazooie
Conker's Bad Fur Day (this could be a "secret" game)
Blast Corps (such underrated title, can'T wait to play this gem again)
Perfect Dark.

The ESRB, at least, considers secret content when giving a rating. Putting Conker on there (hidden or not) would guarantee it an M rating and no way will Nintendo go for that. Perfect Dark is also an M title.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yet some random french dude is more believed.
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Zen Hero

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Oct 25, 2017
5,628
Incineroar gets hate purely because he's a bipedal Fire type and whaaaaaaaat is this weird pettiness?
Incineroar is disliked in large part because he is a furry.

And no, not all Pokemon are furry. By furry, I specifically mean animal characters that look especially humanoid and get sexualized by fans to some degree. Incineroar gets that from his very human-likness and his buffness. A lot of people find furries uncomfortable, and then dislike the character by proxy.
 

Metto

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yet some random french dude is more believed.
We're not even sure if the leaker is French. We don't even know who put up the initial leak. Just that the original source is some French dude Snapchatting what seems to be marketing materials and someone posting that on 4Chan somehow
 

Dyle

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The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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How much costume dlc do you guys think will be available at launch? My gut says that every character will get a mii costume like the Isabelle/K Rool ones and that you can buy them individually or earn them slowly
 

Pancracio17

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Oct 29, 2017
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https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/...os_smash_ultimate_spoiler_discussion/e8fzo0f/

TL;DR If this leak is fake, the faker went through EXTRAORDINARY efforts to edit the mural. The majority of characters have slightly moved and there are spots previously unseen on the previous versions of the mural. I'm almost convinced whoever made this graphic had to have access to every isolated character portrait on its own layer, which afaik are not public. I'm leaning pretty hard towards this being legit, but you never know, maybe someone really is that insane. Anyways sorry for the wall of text. I'll probably finish the rest of the mural tonight or tommorow.
Might be easier to paint over stuff because everything is super blurry, but interesting nonetheless.
 

Metto

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh I see now, didn't know he was from there. Gotcha.
He even made an article on Gameinformer but it wasn't particularly convincing. Just bringing up if Namco really would be handling the marketing for the game which jury's out on that as we don't know what this company does and that there's no Pokemon character on the roster even though there's historically been one.

For someone who's been one of the major cornerstones for fake it was honestly shocking on how weak the evidence and reasoning it was. Same thing for the Gamexplain videos especially the first one where most of the GX community called out how bad it was for making it's point and the newer one while better still isn't convincing.
 

Strat

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Apr 8, 2018
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Yet some random french dude is more believed.
In this situation, it's like one person telling you you're going to be served a delicious steak dinner and another person telling you you're actually going to eat some cow shit.

Who would you rather believe? Are you a shit eater, yuoke? Are you?
 

Jermare

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Dec 21, 2017
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Yet some random french dude is more believed.
Because he's actually presented something to us to suggest it's real (the "leak" itself), while none of those people have presented anything to suggest it's fake (other than the fact that they know about a character that's not in the picture, which even if true, doesn't prove it's fake).

In this situation, it's like one person telling you you're going to be served a delicious steak dinner with that steak dinner being right in front of you to see and smell for yourself and another person telling you you're actually going to eat some cow shit.

Who would you rather believe? Are you a shit eater, yuoke? Are you?
Edited to be more accurate
 

Gilbals

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Oct 25, 2017
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Incineroar is disliked in large part because he is a furry.

And no, not all Pokemon are furry. By furry, I specifically mean animal characters that look especially humanoid and get sexualized by fans to some degree. Incineroar gets that from his very human-likness and his buffness. A lot of people find furries uncomfortable, and then dislike the character by proxy.

Trust me, they don't have to be humanoid to be sexualized. I have sources. Fire Cat is prime furry bait though.
 

Big One

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Oct 25, 2017
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Because he's actually presented something to us to suggest it's real (the "leak" itself), while none of those people have presented anything to suggest it's fake (other than the fact that they know about a character that's not in the picture, which even if true, doesn't prove it's fake).
Yeah this is why I think a lot of these insiders are kind of faulty for. Even Vergeben suggests that it's pretty much because of a lack of Incineroar and "something else" which likely is just another character. That isn't to say that their sources are wrong it's just a hell of a conclusion to jump to especially since there's noting to suggest the Grinch Leak showcases the final roster.
 
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