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Aminga

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Oct 27, 2017
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https://www./search/159997/

Sir please. I remember you.

Eight (8) pages of results, but you barely posted.

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I wasn't gonna be the guy, but yea man a lot of us remember you from gaf.
 

aevanhoe

Slayer of the Eternal Voidslurper
Member
Aug 28, 2018
7,323
The reason MS wanted the more powerful machine is specifically for situations like these. Most people won't splinter off but portions of the enthusiast crowd will, and that is why MS have been trying to court back. The only reason base PS4 was able to outpower Xbox One was because MS intentionally aimed low with base XB1. Sony themselves intentionally aimed conservatively, MS just far more so

I wish MS would invest more in their studios, tbh, which seems like what they are doing. No one should buy one console over the other for this resolution nonsense. I honestly hope MS brings some great titles to the table. I'm getting the X because of a new Halo, not because of "true 4K"....
 

SecondNature

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Oct 25, 2017
15,150
Its 1080p, with some dips to high-mid 20s occasionally in towns and some cutscenes.
Wouldn't dynamic resolution be preferable to maintain the frame rate? Is there a reason they didnt do that?

I wonder if ill feel like a bum for not owning a Pro, I want the best experience, but Im going to assume the Pro upgrade isn't substantially noticeable
 
Nov 12, 2017
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User Banned (2 weeks): Engaging in system wars again immediately upon return of being banned, long history of infractions.
So with the game installed and fired up on my Pro and 55" 4K Sony Bravia. I have to say the game looks fantastic. Zero disappointment here.

People really need to stop panicking about blurry zoomed in screenshots, which will obviously look blurry, at standard viewing distance, this game is bloody gorgeous.

It might not be the sharpest looking game, I feel like God of War and Horizon Zero Dawn look more crisp, thanks to their CB rendering technique and it's a shame Rockstar didn't go the same way here too but RDR2 is still more than a fine looking game, it's certainly not bad.

Looking side by side with the X version shows the biggest difference, thanks to the native 4k but on it's own merit, the Pro version looks totally fine and there's nothing here that will ruin my experience with what is possibly the game of the generation.
Sure if u don't run both version side by side every version is good .../s
FYI this is a comparation thread
 
Feb 10, 2018
17,534
4K in terms how it looks.... Spider-Man, Horizon, GoW.... looks like 4K which is all that matters. Then again, resolution is the least important in terms of image quality beyond a certain point.

Now you're thinking - sure, he says that because he's a PS4 fan. Nope, I really like Xbox. I plan on getting it soon for Halo, GoW, bluray player, great controller, Game Pass.... but PS4 Pro does good enough 4K for me. And resolution really doesn't matter much beyond 1440p. Unless, you know, you want it to matter ;)

Thats a whole different question seperate to the one I was quoting.
 

Jawmuncher

Crisis Dino
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
38,394
Ibis Island
Once again

Discuss the differences in performance without belittling someone's preference.


This includes detracting the conversation into Console Warring territory about "let this platform get a win" and so on
 

aevanhoe

Slayer of the Eternal Voidslurper
Member
Aug 28, 2018
7,323
The tv manufacturers/film makers/ games devs and everyone involved with creating 4K content should have spoken to you before investing time money and effort into 4K

They found a way to market new devices. Like they invested in 3D before that. Like they will try to sell us 8K in a few years.

But ask some Era members from the TV thread and they will tell you:

HDR >> 4K
Bitrate >> Resolution
Contrast >> number of pixels

Etc. etc.

But ok.... let's agree to disagree. Either way, 4K in RDR2 on the X is an achievement and great for X owners. I just wish there would be less hyperbole around the PS4 version.
 
Feb 10, 2018
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Wouldn't dynamic resolution be preferable to maintain the frame rate? Is there a reason they didnt do that?

I wonder if ill feel like a bum for not owning a Pro, I want the best experience, but Im going to assume the Pro upgrade isn't substantially noticeable

The pro is better but still has dips in some towns.
In terms of framerate the 1X is closest to a locked 30 with the rare dip to 29fps and one weird dip to 21fps on a cutscene.
 

Ricky_R

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
3,997
When I say this, keep in mind that for me, controller preference trumps small differences in visuals.

While I don't think you will see a direct comparison anywhere but I would suspect the Visual differences in your situation will not be that dramatic.

If it were me, controller preference would be more important

Yeah! Controller difference has never been a big issue for me as I adapt easily, but for some reason the Xbox controller feels uncomfortable to me. I would put a substantial improvement in visuals and performance over controller tho.
 

leng jai

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Nov 2, 2017
15,117
Just shows you what the 1X can really do with if the developers use the power properly. The last few games have been a mixed bag. Tomb Raider/AC Odyssey on 1X are mediocre to bad while Horizon 4 and RDR2 are incredible.
 

smellyjelly

Avenger
Aug 2, 2018
774
dang, despite the better framerate I can't really justify a pro. My base works perfectly fine and I only have a 1080p tv. y'all lucky mfers gettin it 5 1/2 hours earlier than me :(
 

The Gentleman

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Oct 27, 2017
583
Reading over this thread makes me wonder if some folks have actually sat through and listened to the DF video.

It shouldn't be a surprise that the X performs the best but the pro really isn't as far behind as one would think reading this thread. Some of the things DF pick up on would be overlooked by most people.
 

Chuchubabe

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
408
Game is great in all consoles, in fact might be One of the best games rock star games in terms of frame rate and parity, did we see the same vídeo? They praise all , say x is better but no One near the shit people is vomiting on this thread , people Here acts like every version is Pure shit in anything that is not Xbox x , stop twisting what they say with fanboyism.
 

aspiring

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Oct 25, 2017
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Well i just bought an xbox one x, but still got game on PS4.

All my friends are there and i see the difference but after watching easy allies review, it still looked crazy. So good enough

https://imgur.com/a/6zack0b

I did want one mainly for Horizon so thats qhy i took the jump from my S
 

ghibli99

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Oct 27, 2017
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Reading over this thread makes me wonder if some folks have actually sat through and listened to the DF video.

It shouldn't be a surprise that the X performs the best but the pro really isn't as far behind as one would think reading this thread. Some of the things DF pick up on would be overlooked by most people.
The stuff they're pointing out (like the reconstruction/CB artifacts on foliage, etc.) is the kind of thing that is constantly annoying me in DQ11's outdoor areas.

Ultimately, I think the game looks good on all consoles. Going from 1S to 1X though is staggering.
 

Inuhanyou

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wish MS would invest more in their studios, tbh, which seems like what they are doing. No one should buy one console over the other for this resolution nonsense. I honestly hope MS brings some great titles to the table. I'm getting the X because of a new Halo, not because of "true 4K"....

A reasonable viewpoint to have. So far, even if i cared about getting back into MS's ecosystem, i still havent seen anything worth doing so
 

KillerMan91

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wouldn't dynamic resolution be preferable to maintain the frame rate? Is there a reason they didnt do that?

I wonder if ill feel like a bum for not owning a Pro, I want the best experience, but Im going to assume the Pro upgrade isn't substantially noticeable

It's probably CPU related bottleneck and lowering resolution doesn't help regarding of that.
 

Deleted member 15395

Unshakable Resolve
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Oct 27, 2017
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After watching the video, I'm kinda disappointed by IQ on Pro, the reconstruction/checkerboarding technique used seems half-baked, not bad, just not what I would expect from a game of this calibre. I'm assuming it looks better in motion but those blurry stills are not nice to look at...Hoping for a patch down the line...
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Sure if u don't run both version side by side every version is good .../s
FYI this is a comparation thread

I know it's a DF comparison and tech analysis thread. I was sharing my views after booting up the game on my PS4 Pro, for other Pro owners that are worried the game looks bad or really blurry, it doesn't, it looks great.

Not sure what your point of replying to me was really, other than trying to rub it in the X version looks better, which we all know, so pointless comment really.
 

YOUarcade

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Oct 27, 2017
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California
The stuff they're pointing out (like the reconstruction/CB artifacts on foliage, etc.) is the kind of thing that is constantly annoying me in DQ11's outdoor areas.

Ultimately, I think the game looks good on all consoles. Going from 1S to 1X though is staggering.

This is what I'm ultimately afraid of, but I'm sure it won't be anywhere near as bad as DQ11.
 

breakfuss

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 28, 2017
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K. Many of us predicted this thread would be a mess days ago, but jesus motherfuckin christ omg hahaha...your hurt and pain is palpable! This thang even blew up more than the review thread.I do not get it. I don't.
 
Nov 12, 2017
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I know it's a DF comparison and tech analysis thread. I was sharing my views after booting up the game on my PS4 Pro, for other Pro owners that are worried the game looks bad or really blurry, it doesn't, it looks great.

Not sure what your point of replying to me was really, other than trying to rub it in the X version looks better, which we all know, so pointless comment really.
The pro looks absolutely good and also the Xbox s version is okay ..no one should be worried
 

Ruin

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Oct 14, 2018
208
Any graphical settings in the menus ?

Film grain
Chromatic aberration
Contrast
Motion blur ?
 

leng jai

Member
Nov 2, 2017
15,117
Looks like they didn't do any tests with the first person camera. I wonder if that mode would have better performance in the towns where the frame rate starts dropping to the mid 20s. Theoretically it should be less taxing on the hardware considering the FOV would be lower and the main character model isn't rendered. For example on PC Horizon 4 runs significantly worse for me using chase cam compared to cockpit view.

Dark1x
 

jwhit28

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Oct 25, 2017
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No dynamic resolution is a bit disappointing. I much rather have a temporary drop in visuals than below 30fps dips in towns. I think the Assassin's Creed games handled this by increasing and decreasing the temporal anti-aliasing on the fly.

Really good videos though. I like it when DF do the tech breakdowns as a group.
 

SecondNature

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Oct 25, 2017
15,150
Wow. These are the comparisons pics Im looking for, as I dont want to spoil the video by watching the video comparison. Yikes at base PS4. I hope that blurry face is just zoomed in and not actually that noticeable. Id hate to constantly see it. X1X is quite beastly, Im super jealous. I wonder if I can see this running in a store like Best Buy.

I would hold out for next gen if I could, but I just feel it'd be impossible to avoid spoilers until then.
 

PHOENIXZERO

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Oct 29, 2017
12,062
Again the console with ~50% more processing power over the second most powerful looks best, shocking revelation.