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Red Dead Redemption 2 Review Thread
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you will find similar comments on any less than perfect review on any highly anticipated game. that doesn't tell you much about the source of the review.
Jeff's tastes are very particular. He can't stand Witcher 3, last of us, RDR, older splinter cell games, majority of horror games. But he loves stuff like saints row, assassin's Creeds, cods. Basically games that go for immersion and pseudo realism and the heavy narrative focus at the expense of tight controls and immediate rewards and gameplay loops are big no no from him
Jeff Gerstmann gets excited about and enjoys plenty of current games. He's having a great time with the newest Forza Horizon and Black Ops for instance---he just happens to not like certain games other people like.
I think Jeff wants games to be games. Everything he's into is meant for short bursts (fighters, Hitman, CoD/PUBG, Windjammers, tapping games, etc), and I don't think he enjoys games with downtime.
No, I mean, generally. He seems unenthusiastic about the art form to me, with very limited exceptions.
This ^^^.
I don't agree with that at all. I don't see why the game taking itself seriously is a bad thing, and I definitely don't think more GTA humor is needed in games other than GTA
Yeah that's definitely part of it. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's just not what im lookin for in this medium.
I thought Jeff really dug GTA V
Yup: https://www.giantbomb.com/reviews/grand-theft-auto-v-review/1900-598/
I mean, they gave, with his heavy influence, GOTY to PUBG. I just don't understand that.
It actually makes perfect sense. What you're seeing is simply the effect of PS4 being more popular, PS4 versions will always get more reviews. The way you're thinking means that they could remove the scores for Xbox, PC and Switch altogether because the version with the most reviews, PS4, will always show the most correct meta for all versions. I couldn't disagree more really.
Edit: But like I said. I understand how you're thinking. I just don't agree that RDR2's "actual score" should be dropped to 97 just because some cranky PS4 gamer reported a low score when the Xbox version is higher. Lets loudly celebrate the 98 score instead. ;)
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Yeah but then he said that all stems from him hating playing Arthur because Arthur was a bad guy, it was almost insufferable to listen to.
I'd like to think we're pretty balanced, though unafraid of extensively criticizing something. Reviews tend to be on the shorter side (I was allowed to go much longer on Red Dead than normal), with use of the entire 5-star scale.
We also have some wildly divergent opinions between different critics; I call out Breath of the Wild as what I think is one of the best open world games in the Red Dead review, for example, but the proper review on Slant from another critic came in with a 3 out of 5. A lot of us pay attention to a game's politics and themes, which tends to get us in trouble with a certain crowd.
The site is primarily known for the film coverage, but reviews run for all sorts of different media.
The majority of the angry comments are, I imagine, folks who clicked over from Metacritic rather than regular readers.
(I'm just freelance and have been writing pretty regular game reviews there for coming up on a year now, for the record).
If it's not Titanfall 2 or Superhot he doesn't want to know.
Theres a digital foundry thread floating around. Your answer is there.
Basically x is the best version.
Go over to the DF thread. The results have shocked nearly everyone, its pretty one sided. Native 4k/30 on X.
I couldn't disagree more. RDR was super boring to me. GTA at least felt like it had a pulse.
Just wanted to say that I felt your review was thoughtful and well-written. I feel bad that you had to attach a score to it though, knowing how gamers can be!
Yeah and i loved fallout 3 but when i got to 4 i was completely fed up of that formula. Tastes change. People are human. More at 11.
He loves eras fav type of games. The bayonettas, ninja gaidens and bloodbornes of the world.
Well hey, they still make GTA at least.
There aren't a lot of other games that try for something like this on this scale.
That's my exact worry about the game though, Arthur doesn't seem at all likeable to me.
I want to be able to play as a good guy, or at least a redeemable Arthur. The game is called Red Dead Redemption, after all.
Blood in the Sand was fun though...
The first 50 Cent game was not good
What's wrong with that?
The fact that Jeff was sitting there without a cowboy hat on his head and constantly yeehawing with excitiment is somewhat appalling imo
It wasn't a complete game at the time, for starters, but it's also just not a huge achievement in design or ambition. It's a game mode, and compared to some of the incredible achievements in 2017, just pales. It's also janky, glitchy, etc.
For me, I don't equate GOTY with the one I played the most, or what gave me the most fun. BOTW, Horizon, Mario, RE7...I just don't see PUBG measuring up.
Love both games but for different reasons.
GTA is a sandbox off mayhem, with a cool over the top story set with stereotypes and over the top symbolism for modern day society.
But red dead is just a classic slice of history. I love the atmosphere, the slow pace, the design. But people who like red dead wont like gta and vice versa. Same Mission and world structure, but each is designed to give a different type of vibe.
Problem i find though is that people who love those types of games cannot fathom there being any other kind of gaming experience, or think games that try to do something slightly different are of less merit.
He's hated Souls for years and thought Bloodborne was okay. Can't remember his thoughts on Ninja Gaiden or Bayo though.
I love the first Red Dead and that's my main concern as well. I'm certain Arthur has some sympathetic qualities and I'm sure he's at least redeemable like you said. I can't think a single classic western where the protagonist isn't at least redeemable or show remorse or quilt towards past actions.
How is that a problem to you when not being able to fathom that even professional game journalists with 20+ years of experience in the business do not necessarily like all the same games others love?
I wonder if the same folks getting mad at Jeff for not liking RDR are the same ones that shit on him for giving Twilight Princess an 8.8.
It's a fucking opinion. And it's his. Stop getting all mad because of a game you're hyped up for got a negative review.
It's a fucking opinion. And it's his. Stop getting all mad because of a game you're hyped up for got a negative review.
In what way? He clearly shows great interest and enthusiasm for discussing the industry on the Bombcast every week. There's plenty of games he gets excited about in any given year. Just take a look at his top 10 lists. Far from very limited, he even says he struggled to narrow his 2017 list down to 10 games from a starting pool of 30. He just occasionally really dislikes a universally praised game. That's it.
There's about 5 hours of RDR2 gameplay on Giant Bomb right now, and about 5 minutes of it is negative. Most of the staff seem super into it, the way Alex talked it'll get at least 4/5.
The first 100 player Battle Royale that spawned multiple copies isn't ambitious? Right, okay...
Personally I feel the same as Jeff, I really dislike games like Dark Souls and Bayonetta, they do nothing for me and I absolutely do not agree with what most people on this forums seems to see in BoTW.
But all of that doesn't matter, it's an opinion and at most we can only disagree since it has no damn impact on how we may enjoy those particular games.
The Twillight Pricess 8.8 stuff is so dumb, i think it's very much less than an 8.8 game, but why the fuck does it matter if someone likes it less than others.
Except for like this year when he talked about how much he loved Dragon Quest XI or last year when he loved NieR Automata. Or any other of the multitude of games he's recently loved.
I personally think if a GTA5, Mario Odyssey or BOTW can get a 97 or 98 then games like Witcher 3 and God of War deserve that kind of score as well.