• Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.

Which team are you in, hooman? (NOTE: Vote-changing disabled!)

  • #TeamReal

    Votes: 2,046 67.7%
  • #TeamFake

    Votes: 978 32.3%

  • Total voters
    3,024
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.

Jahranimo

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,994
Personally speaking, I bailed because people started blowing up my twitter and in several cases my work email to demand proof and an outting of my sources or accusing me of working for Nintendo marketing (???).

Which, like, no. Never. I had to turn off open DMs because fuck you guys. That's a massive no-no and I hope those of you so obsessed over something so trivial really rethink your priorities. Genuinely cannot wait for this dumb thing to be over and for this thread to be closed and archived so people can't edit their posts.
Holy fuck.
 

Lucentto

Member
Oct 25, 2017
362
Rampage over something that's not proven? Why mess with Sakurai? He told everyone to expect a few more characters. He set the expectations low. Nobody should be messing with him.
They shouldn't, but they will. They themselves set their own expectations with this rumor alone. When it doesn't get met, people lash out. It's happened many times in the past. Hell, look at what happened with the recent Waluigi nonsense.
 

Razmos

Unshakeable One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 28, 2017
15,890
There are ways to get annoyed without being a dick though.

Or any insiders can be ignored. A lot of people are already claiming they're wrong because of this, so why not do that politely?
Oh absolutely, this level of hostility is not productive, healthy or decent, especially over a video game.

Insiders doing what they are doing is just fanning the flames however, and that isn't productive either
 

Kirbivore

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,925
I think Andre's in the wrong on this one. If you come into this thread acting condescending and all knowing without being to back yourself up, you're going to get blowback. If you want a respectful atmosphere, don't treat others with disrespect.

This is separate from the stuff Imran is talking about, which isn't happening on Era.

Are you saying hes wrong because hes comparing the attitudes to a Trump rally? Because he isnt wrong. The amount of standards is so damn high for an insider and yet on the flipside, we will go hey this guy is a broken clock, maybe he is legit.
 

WaluigiTime

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,669
Good Burger
Who is being harassed? I know Liam likes to make a big deal out of nothing often.

EDIT: I misspoke and didn't know the severity of the situation
 
Last edited:
Oct 31, 2017
683
insiders don't really owe anybody anything. I'm pretty sure they would stay quiet if the info-starved fans weren't bugging them about it

That will breed a ton of faux insiders that will spam threads with misinformation. That isn't a smart thing to do.

I would also like to see what this 'harassment' is. Calling someone out on bullshit isn't harassment natively.
 

Rogue Agent

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,528
Personally speaking, I bailed because people started blowing up my twitter and in several cases my work email to demand proof and an outting of my sources or accusing me of working for Nintendo marketing (???).

Which, like, no. Never. I had to turn off open DMs because fuck you guys. That's a massive no-no and I hope those of you so obsessed over something so trivial really rethink your priorities. Genuinely cannot wait for this dumb thing to be over and for this thread to be closed and archived so people can't edit their posts.
That sounds incredibly frustrating. Sorry you had to go through this.
 

Yavga

Banned
Dec 20, 2017
501
If the leak ends up fake... remember that I always believed in Team real, please put me in the screenshot so people can at least still see a new picture of their Banjo. We were great #BanjoBros! ;(
 

Deleted member 873

User requested account closure
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,463
I think Andre's in the wrong on this one. If you come into this thread acting condescending and all knowing without being to back yourself up, you're going to get blowback. If you want a respectful atmosphere, don't treat others with disrespect.

This is separate from the stuff Imran is talking about, which isn't happening on Era.
banjo isn't in. stop harassing people.
 

Kinsei

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
20,513
Personally speaking, I bailed because people started blowing up my twitter and in several cases my work email to demand proof and an outting of my sources or accusing me of working for Nintendo marketing (???).

Which, like, no. Never. I had to turn off open DMs because fuck you guys. That's a massive no-no and I hope those of you so obsessed over something so trivial really rethink your priorities. Genuinely cannot wait for this dumb thing to be over and for this thread to be closed and archived so people can't edit their posts.
Yikes (@ the people Dming and emailing you, not you yourself.)

This thread should really just be locked since people can't behave themselves.
 

jackal27

Member
Oct 25, 2017
940
Joplin, MO
Personally speaking, I bailed because people started blowing up my twitter and in several cases my work email to demand proof and an outting of my sources or accusing me of working for Nintendo marketing (???).

Which, like, no. Never. I had to turn off open DMs because fuck you guys. That's a massive no-no and I hope those of you so obsessed over something so trivial really rethink your priorities. Genuinely cannot wait for this dumb thing to be over and for this thread to be closed and archived so people can't edit their posts.
Ugh sorry to hear this man. People can be awful. Been through that before on a smaller scale and it's incredibly frustrating.
 

Maple

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,714
Wish this was just over at this point. December whyyyyyy

Don't think we'll have to wait until December.

They're not dropping the final Smash Direct during the Let's Go week, and they're probably not dropping it after because then you're only 1-2 weeks out from the release of the game.

Next Direct is most likely a few weeks away.
 

Richietto

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,939
North Carolina
Personally speaking, I bailed because people started blowing up my twitter and in several cases my work email to demand proof and an outting of my sources or accusing me of working for Nintendo marketing (???).

Which, like, no. Never. I had to turn off open DMs because fuck you guys. That's a massive no-no and I hope those of you so obsessed over something so trivial really rethink your priorities. Genuinely cannot wait for this dumb thing to be over and for this thread to be closed and archived so people can't edit their posts.
I am so sorry to you and everyone else getting harassed. Bunch of fucking babies around here.
 

NHarmonic.

▲ Legend ▲
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
10,290
More people should jump on the bet so it makes a real impact in the site lmao. Seeing a bunch of bad drawn incineroars around or whatever else we pick in case Real wins would be so hilarious.
 

Metto

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
12,108
Yikes (@ the people Dming and emailing you, not you yourself.)

This thread should really just be locked since people can't behave themselves.
Why? It really won't do anything and probably send a lot these guys to the Smash discussion thread. Like why should one aspect of the community be punished for what these guys got on separate social media?
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
Oh absolutely, this level of hostility is not productive, healthy or decent, especially over a video game.

Insiders doing what they are doing is just fanning the flames however, and that isn't productive either
That reads a little too much like victim blaming for my taste.

And I was someone that was one that train of thought just yesterday and now regret it after what Imran and Andre posted.
 

Unknownlight

One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 2, 2017
10,541
I'm still pretty disappointed by how GX is handling coverage of this leak, but I think he's right.

In general, some people on ERA are really harassing towards insiders, this isn't new and something I've tried to point out for a while

https://www.resetera.com/threads/le...s-who-have-an-occasional-rumor-misfire.46308/


Era: It's like 4chan, but with usernames.

On a personal note, I don't really like insider/leak "culture". Something like this is actually kind of fun, with all the puzzles and investigation, but most of the time when articles are posted about rumors and leaks, (e.g. Star Fox Racing) it either ruins the hype of the announcement, or ends in disappointment when it's not true. There's basically no upside.

I get that this is the way things are, and I try my best to avoid spoilers as much as I can, but it's pretty difficult when you hang out on a video game forum every day.
 

Yukinari

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,538
The Danger Zone
Its ridiculous to even harass andre over this when chances are they will bring the leak up during their weekly news update.

Or you know wait until we see more info.
 
Oct 31, 2017
683
Personally speaking, I bailed because people started blowing up my twitter and in several cases my work email to demand proof and an outting of my sources or accusing me of working for Nintendo marketing (???).

Which, like, no. Never. I had to turn off open DMs because fuck you guys. That's a massive no-no and I hope those of you so obsessed over something so trivial really rethink your priorities. Genuinely cannot wait for this dumb thing to be over and for this thread to be closed and archived so people can't edit their posts.

Requesting proof for a claim isn't bad. If the same person is doing it viciously, maliciously, and repeatedly, that is bad and must never be encouraged in any shape or form.
 

passepied joe

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,703
I think Andre's in the wrong on this one. If you come into this thread acting condescending and all knowing without being to back yourself up, you're going to get blowback. If you want a respectful atmosphere, don't treat others with disrespect.

This is separate from the stuff Imran is talking about, which isn't happening on Era.
Yeah, I don't condone the harassment but if you're an """insider""" why bother posting something that is basically meaningless?
 

Entryhazard

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,843
Are the background and all individual fighter illustrations available to download individually? Otherwise this would be days of Photoshopping to even make it look slightly real. Not saying it's not possible and I know it's blurry but.. just so much work.

I really want this to be real.

EDIT: Not to mention matching the artists style when adding the roster additions.
Or it's very blurry also to hide the imperfection of a quick work
 
Oct 28, 2017
6,119
Kinda the opposite i think, because people who know about the roster, possibly higher ups at IGN, Gamespot, Kotaku etc, wouldn't dare talk about this if it's a massive leak, if it's fake, they would be more open to talking about it because there is no real backlash from Nintendo to discuss rumors.

Those higher-ups likely don't have a clue if it's real or not. They just don't want to risk biting the hand that feeds.
 

scare_crow

Member
Oct 28, 2017
6,304
User Banned (1 Month): Justifying the harassment of other members. Accumulated infractions.
That sounds incredibly frustrating. Sorry you had to go through this.
People sound like dicks.

But it's almost like it would've been better and more professional to, you know, not dive into a message board in the first place as a member of the media. Huh.
 

bad_carbs

Member
Oct 25, 2017
916
That will breed a ton of faux insiders that will spam threads with misinformation. That isn't a smart thing to do.

I would also like to see what this 'harassment' is. Calling someone out on bullshit isn't harassment natively.
but it looks like the ones who are claiming fake are reputable insiders though. The leaked image came from someone who had a Grinch printout
 

Skittzo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
41,037
There were plenty of cringey posts in this thread being hostile to insiders like, "lol at insiders trying to remain relevant" or "don't come in here and say you know better without backing it up". I get it, it's frustrating to not know what others might know but that's no reason to be hostile and nasty towards people.

Instead try for a moment to think from the perspective of these insiders. Nobody is holding onto information just to feel better than us, they're doing it to protect their sources and to not draw scrutiny if their information turns out to be wrong. Also in this thread we've seen plenty of people posting about times insiders have been wrong. Well, if they share their info now and are wrong about this that's just another thing to add to the pile for people to tease them with in the future. Nobody wants that.

I'm not trying to say you need to believe everyone who claims to be an insider 100%, just don't act toxic or hostile towards them. They are people who have duties to their sources and their reputations.
 

Geg

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,530
Did you just casually insult an entire playerbase? Why? That's not justifiable or appropriate.
Just look at this thread. The fact that people can even entertain the (100% likely) possibility that people will harass nintendo and sakurai over this if it turns out to be fake makes it completely justifiable and appropriate.
 

APZonerunner

Features Editor at VG247.com
Verified
Oct 28, 2017
1,724
England
I haven't seen any legit journalists cover this, so that's another argument for team fake.

I've gone into this earlier in the thread, but a major difference is that journalists typically will follow a double source or even triple source rule, which means you need at least two verifiable (though they can remain anonymous to the public, but verifiable to the reporter), disconnected sources that are saying the same thing without any cross-contamination. This is proper reporting protocol. I hear plenty about games, plenty of it correct in the long run, but I don't print it because I can't get the two sources together.

Obviously people on blogs or youtube influencers or whatever aren't necessarily beholden to these rules. In fact, nobody is, but the bigger and more 'professional' an outlet is the more likely they have rules around stuff like this in place.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.