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Which team are you in, hooman? (NOTE: Vote-changing disabled!)

  • #TeamReal

    Votes: 2,046 67.7%
  • #TeamFake

    Votes: 978 32.3%

  • Total voters
    3,024
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DrMoguera

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Oct 27, 2017
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Until one of the insiders are willing to post something definitive and not wishy washy stuff, I'd be wary. There's a million reasons I could see this being fake, but this vague "I know something but can't definitively say it's fake because maybe it's real too" doesn't really impress me.
 

jph139

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
14,365
I think Ryce doesn't have Smash sources but I could be wrong. The biggest insider against it is for sure ZhugeEX. Zhuge is VERY reliable and to the point.

I don't know if he has direct sources, but as of last night (see this post) he definitely seemed to know why people are objecting to the leak. And I don't think he'd come down so hard on one side or the other if he didn't think it was reputable.
 

HylianSeven

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not sayin he doesn't get legitimate evidence, he certainly had the Shovel Knight amiibo bit right. His interpretation for what it was for however was wrong.

Either way I have no idea what he knows about Smash
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Also Liam's been right about plenty of other things. He obviously got Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe wrong, but he's had a good track record. Given how these insiders (the ones that are legit) get their information, it's not uncommon they might get some incorrect information sometimes.

I mean as an example, remember Laura Kate Dale? She's gotten stuff wrong, but also got plenty of things right. One of the things she got exactly right?

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NOBODY believed her when she said there was a Mario and Rabbids crossover that would be called Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, and it would play like X-COM and characters could jump off each other. And then E3 2017 came and the game was revealed to be exactly that.
 

srtrestre

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
18,965
Avatar bet: if the leak is real, I'll consider updating my avatar. If fake, I'll continue NOT considering updating my avatar.

Harsh I know but this rollercoaster deserves it.
 

Lozjam

One Winged Slayer
Avenger
Nov 1, 2017
1,961
If he's truly the last newcomer, he will definitely be mine yeah.
Same.

I really don't know how or why, but I have completely fallen out of favor with Pokémon as of recently. I loved Sun and Moon..... but man that 1-2 punch of Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, and Lets Go just really grinds my gears. And it doesn't help that Incineroar is pretty much the worst and laziest pokemon design in Alola.
 

Phendrift

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,282
Nintendo's E3 with Smash Ultimate and Everyone is Here.
Hey, it wasn't disappointing to me because of Smash - but let's not act like people didn't expect a lot more first party games than we got.

Not to mention when Daemon x Machina popped up, he said "yeah, this is the direct I saw." He could've easily been destroyed if they showed Prime 4, Bayo 3, Kid Icarus, Retro etc after that.
 

Biggad

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Jul 3, 2018
362
So some guy writes something on Twitter, seemingly out of his ass, without any receipts, and we get 2 pages of 'okay that's it' lmfao. There's definitely no shortage of drama queens.
 

NotLiquid

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Oct 25, 2017
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Entryhazard

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Oct 25, 2017
2,843
Whoever this impersonator is, he's going to get charged for fraud and identity theft. He's going to jail.
This if they're going to indeintify this perpetrator which is not a given. Even then, he just used his first name on a screnshot and let the circumstances do the rest so the sentencing might not be that severe.

Then again such elaborated fakes are usually revealed by the author themselves because they want the notoriety for pulling off such believable craft, and committing a felony in the process prevents such person to do so so I dunno if the effort was worth it as they will need to stay anonymous.
 

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Here's the thing: Mario + Rabbids was literally public knowledge for anyone that had even the slightest connection to Ubisoft. If even I heard about this then you can be sure that every youtuber or person used to dig into gaming heard about it. It's not incredible insider knowledge.
 

Jonneh

Good Vibes Gaming
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Oct 24, 2017
4,538
UK
Oct 25, 2017
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Have we uh given any thought to the possibility that whoever leaked this took the picture on top of a document that had their coworker's name on it? And that they didn't actually leak their own name?
 

Metto

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 27, 2017
12,108
Probably! That or someone else has presented something internal to him
Ryce seems to imply he has something that leans it more into fake.

Just for slight clarification the GX stance is that the picture isn't conclusive on it's own and you guys might have info on a potential missing character from the leak that leads more to why you guys think it's fake right?
 

Jonneh

Good Vibes Gaming
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Oct 24, 2017
4,538
UK
Ryce seems to imply he has something that leans it more into fake.

Just for slight clarification the GX stance is that the picture isn't conclusive on it's own and you guys might have info on a potential missing character from the leak that leads more to why you guys think it's fake right?
I don't think we've said anything about missing characters
 

Deleted member 176

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unless we see the guy himself come forward literally nothing changed except Liam also tweeted about probably seeing Incineroar
 

memoryman3

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Oct 26, 2017
4,146
Let's be real here, the only non debunked leak is this box.

https:///wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Smash_Ultimate_Box.jpg
 

Skittzo

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Oct 25, 2017
41,037
Have we uh given any thought to the possibility that whoever leaked this took the picture on top of a document that had their coworker's name on it? And that they didn't actually leak their own name?

Again, this name was not printed on a piece of paper, it was on the Snapchat story video. That means whoever took the Snapchat video had the guys name as his user name.
 

ShinobiBk

One Winged Slayer
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Dec 28, 2017
10,121
Just some minor corrections-

1) The banner actually appears to be on a wristband, unless that's been disproven.

2) Snapchat videos show the user name of the person sending the video in the upper left corner, that's where his name came from, not a piece of paper in the image.

It's not a wristband, it's a small banner you hang from the ceiling. Look how big that thing is, you think that thing is fitting on anyone's wrist unless you wrap it around several times?
 

Mugy

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Oct 28, 2017
3,424
I followed all of the information Ryce put back when he leaked info about MVCI weeks before it was announced at the Playstation Event. If somebody knows something, its probably him
 

Renfran

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Aug 28, 2018
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This if they're going to indeintify this perpetrator which is not a given. Even then, he just used his first name on a screnshot and let the circumstances do the rest so the sentencing might not be that severe.

Then again such elaborated fakes are usually revealed by the author themselves because they want the notoriety for pulling off such believable craft, and committing a felony in the process prevents such person to do so so I dunno if the effort was worth it as they will need to say anonymous.

All true but police and law enforcement can find out one way or another. They don't need his name because they can just trace everything back to the actual source and contact Snapchat and other parties if necessary. If what that tweet said is true, the actual leaker is legitimately in serious trouble. Now that the real person knows what is going on, even a little. He will take legal action. Companies that he associated this with will also take legal action, one already has. It's all downhill for this leaker. Smash and NDAs should be the least of his concerns if this is true.
 

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Once again, there's nothing to debunk this leak apart from "insiders" claiming it's fake despite not showing even the shadow of an evidence.
 
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